MSNBC: Hillary Clinton's Use Of Personal Email At State Dept "Staggering" And "Shocki
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It is a non story.
The federal regulations went into effect in late November, 2014 when President Obama signed H.R. 1233, modernizing the Federal Records Act of 1950 to include electronic communications. It was signed two years after Clinton stepped down.
WASHINGTON -- The grudge match between Republicans and Democrats over the president's immigration policies and funding the Department of Homeland Security ended Tuesday -- with a win for Democrats.
House Republicans approved $39.7 billion in funding for DHS without any measures to block President Barack Obama's executive actions on immigration, which could allow as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants to remain in the country and work for three years.
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pathetic waste of time by the Neo cons who cave as usual
House Republicans approved $39.7 billion in funding for DHS without any measures to block President Barack Obama's executive actions on immigration, which could allow as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants to remain in the country and work for three years.
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pathetic waste of time by the Neo cons who cave as usual
You are a dumb hack.
Check the law in 2009.
She clearly broke regulations.
She was hiding her lies concerning the coverup in Benghazi along with illegal fundraising from 60 foreign nationals.
Her buddy that works for her that is married to Anthony Weiner did the same thing.
Per Bob Woodward this is the same Clintonesque behavior from early 1990's.
She lied about being shot at in Bosnia.
She lied about being named after Edward Hillary who climber Mt Everest.
She lied about Chelsea being neat or at World Trade Center on 9/11.
She lied to the families of the deceased from Benghazi when coffins arrived in Maryland telling them it was the video that caused the attack.
Quote from National Journal " Chinese hackers had an easier time reading her State Deptartment emails than US taxpayers".
Why would Clinton use a non secure private email account to conduct business as Secretary of State ? Even Lawrence O'Donnell jumped on this story and yet you say so what? Clinton already thinks she is Queen.
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Even if it is not against the law. She did it so her cronies could control the release of her emails to government record. She knew exactly what she was doing. She was a lying deceitful government official. This is fact. Just what we need for president.
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Shawn555 already ripped ass on this one, and you Limbaughheadjobs still don't get it.
A bill President Barack Obama signed last November (2014) declared that official messages sent on personal email accounts must be copied to an employee?s official account or forwarded to such an account within 20 days. The law, which was not retroactive, allowed employees to be subject to disciplinary action for failing to archive records but it did not carry criminal penalties.
You're still an ignorant jerk-off, lowell.:facepalm:
Pitiful really. I did see Benghazi get mentioned. Good times.
Colin Powell relied on personal emails while secretary of state
By TARINI PARTI and JOSH GERSTEIN 3/3/15 2:59 PM EST
Like Hillary Clinton, former Secretary of State Colin Powell also used a personal email account during his tenure at the State Department, an aide confirmed in a statement.
?He was not aware of any restrictions nor does he recall being made aware of any over the four years he served at State,? the statement says. ?He sent emails to his staff generally via their State Department email addresses. These emails should be on the State Department computers. He might have occasionally used personal email addresses, as he did when emailing to family and friends.?
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Powell?s statement comes after The New York Times reported that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used a personal account while at the State Department, and the department acknowledged that thousands of emails Clinton generated during her tenure were not archived as official government records. The Times story also mentioned that Powell ?used personal email to communicate with American officials and ambassadors and foreign leaders.?
The statement continues: ?He did not take any hard copies of emails with him when he left office and has no record of the emails. They were all unclassified and mostly of a housekeeping nature. He came into office encouraging the use of emails as a way of getting the staff to embrace the new 21st information world.?
Robert Gibbs is pictured. | Getty
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?The account he used has been closed for a number of years. In light of new policies published in 2013 and 2014 and a December 2014 letter from the State Department advising us of these polices, we will be working with the department to see if any additional action is required on our part.?
Clinton allies have maintained that the presumed Democratic presidential front-runner?s use of a personal email account was not out of step with how former secretaries used email to conduct work related to the State Department.
?Like Secretaries of State before her, she used her own email account when engaging with any Department officials,? said Nick Merrill, spokesman for Clinton, in a statement.
?For government business, she emailed them on their Department accounts, with every expectation they would be retained. When the Department asked former Secretaries last year for help ensuring their emails were in fact retained, we immediately said yes.?
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Josh Gerstein @joshgerstein
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/...-secretary-of-state-115707.html#ixzz3TQyTltzf
Come on jaxx?! Quit trying to make something out of nothing. You don't get to point fingers at her and act outraged for something you didn't give a damn about when Cheney, Bush, Powell, McConnell, Gingrich, Romney, and the rest did and do the exact same thing. Deceitful? Over emailing practice? Come on? It's unfathomable to me how you guys can allow political bias to replace common sense and acceptance of reality. You still think she somehow did something wrong concerning Benghazi when every single thing points to the contrary. You'd rather make assumptions and cast aspersions as they relate to the character of Democrats than face the reality of your own ignorance to the facts. It's the single most ridiculous thing about Republicans.
Here are facts that you'll completely disregard in order to point out something like emails and it just fucking astounds me that you choose to be that way, you guys choose to remain ignorant to these things.
The president wasn't responsible for the death of any Americans in Benghazi.
His economic policies have worked. Stimulus package had helped to pull us out of the recession that the last Republican president is solely responsible for putting us in.
The affordable care act is working even though it's a Republican authored document.
Republican economic theory of trickle down economics does not at all work.
We were taken to war in Iraq under false premises and Bush and Cheney put us at war with Iraq for personal reasons and lied to the nation.
The president is a Christian.
He is a born citizen.
Republicans shut down the government on purpose.
Fox news viewers are the most consistently misinformed of all viewers.
Much of the hatred directed towards the president is due to inadmissible racism.
The ACA website worked better faster than Bush's medicaid part D sign up website by a large margin.
The entire Republican deity is no longer policy driven other than the single minded drive to make president Obama seem unfavorable to the public regardless of their own integrity and ethics.
Republicans think that the majority of people in social programs are lazy no good blacks looking for a handout and nothing could be further from the truth.
Universal free health care works better than any system we've ever had but Republicans refuse to consider it because of insurance company lobbyists and greed.
Social programs work everywhere else but here.
Income inequality is worse here than anywhere else Republican sponsored corporate tax breaks are worse here than anywhere else.
You choose not to see any of this because you choose to let political bias replace common sense.
Lowell,
You may be the dumbest person in the planet.
Hope this helps,
FDC
Using Private Email, Hillary Clinton Thwarted Record Requests
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and AMY CHOZICKMARCH 3, 2015
WASHINGTON ? In 2012, congressional investigators asked the State Department for a wide range of documents related to the attack on the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya. The department eventually responded, furnishing House committees with thousands of documents.
But it turns out that that was not everything.
The State Department had not searched the email account of former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton because she had maintained a private account, which shielded it from such searches, department officials acknowledged on Tuesday.
It was only last month that the House committee appointed to investigate Benghazi was provided with about 300 of Mrs. Clinton?s emails related to the attacks. That was shortly after Mrs. Clinton turned over, at the State Department?s request, some 50,000 pages of government-related emails that she had kept on her private account.
It was one of several instances in which records requests sent to the State Department, which had no access to Mrs. Clinton?s emails, came up empty.
In 2013, Nitasha Tiku, then a reporter for Gawker, filed a Freedom of Information Act request, seeking all correspondence on Mrs. Clinton?s private email account between her and Sidney Blumenthal, a close adviser and onetime staff member in the Clinton White House. Some of those emails had already spilled into public view and been reported in the news media. But the State Department told Gawker that it could find no records responsive to the request, Gawker reported.
Mrs. Clinton?s aides on Tuesday sought to play down the significance of her exclusive use of a personal email account for State Department business. But an examination of records requests sent to the department reveals how the practice protected a significant amount of her correspondence from the eyes of investigators and the public.
Mrs. Clinton?s exclusive use of personal email for her government business is unusual for a high-level official, archive experts have said. Federal regulations, since 2009, have required that all emails be preserved as part of an agency?s record-keeping system. In Mrs. Clinton?s case, her emails were kept on her personal account and her staff took no steps to have them preserved as part of State Department record.
In response to a State Department request, Mrs. Clinton?s advisers, late last year, reviewed her account and decided which emails to turn over to the State Department.
The State Department says it will now search the 50,000 emails Mrs. Clinton provided in response to Freedom of Information and congressional requests.
The White House, in its first response to the news, said it frowned on the practice of officials using their personal email accounts.
?What I can tell you is that very specific guidance has been given to agencies all across the government, which is specifically that employees of the Obama administration should use their official email accounts when they?re conducting official government business,? the White House spokesman, Josh Earnest, said. ?However, when there are situations where personal email accounts are used, it is important for those records to be preserved consistent with the Federal Records Act.?
But political groups and news organizations said requests for records related to Mrs. Clinton had repeatedly gone unanswered.
In December, The Associated Press said its FOIA requests for records related to Mrs. Clinton?s tenure at the State Department, the oldest of which was submitted in March 2010, were not answered. In addition to requesting Mrs. Clinton?s schedules, The A.P. asked for correspondence related to Huma Abedin?s special arrangement to serve as a top adviser to Mrs. Clinton and consult for private clients. ?We have not received any documents yet, despite the promised deadlines, and we are evaluating the situation,? said Erin Madigan White, spokeswoman for The A.P.
Conservative groups have filed numerous requests for information about Mrs. Clinton as she prepares for a possible presidential run. Citizens United is expecting a court ruling on Friday about a lawsuit the group filed last year after the State Department would not disclose flight records that would have shown who accompanied Mrs. Clinton on overseas trips. The group had intended to cross reference the agency?s flight manifests with the donors who contributed to the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation.
The FOIA request was just one of 16 appeals the group has made to the State Department since May that have gone unfulfilled. Those requests also included specific correspondence from Mrs. Clinton and her closest aides, including Cheryl D. Mills and Ms. Abedin.
America Rising, an anti-Clinton ?super PAC,? has submitted a dozen FOIA requests for State Department records beginning last June.
Requests included correspondence between Ms. Mills and Clinton Foundation leadership and Ms. Abedin?s communication with members of Teneo, a private consultancy partly run by Doug Band, a longtime aide to former President Bill Clinton. Ms. Abedin had a special arrangement that allowed her to work at the State Department and be paid by Teneo, which offers strategic advice to major global corporations. America Rising also requested Mrs. Clinton?s schedule during the annual Clinton Global Initiative gatherings in New York.
In all cases, the State Department acknowledged receipt of the FOIA requests and assigned case numbers but did not produce any of the requested documents. ?Unfortunately, Clinton?s own political calculation and desire for secrecy, as evidenced by her exclusive use of personal email accounts while at State, is preventing an open process and full, fair review of her time there,? said Jeff Bechdel, a spokesman for America Rising.
State Department officials have previously said they handle thousands of records requests and try to respond as quickly as possible. On Tuesday, Alec Gerlach, a spokesman for the department, defended the agency, and stressed that it was working diligently to comply with the voluminous requests for information from the Republican-controlled House.
Adrienne Elrod, a spokeswoman for Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton group, called the issue of Mrs. Clinton?s using personal email ?manufactured controversy.?
In a written statement, the National Archives said it had ?reached out to the State Department to ensure that all federal records are properly identified and managed in accordance with the Federal Records Act and that controls and procedures are in place to manage records effectively in the future.?
Continue reading the main story
Mrs. Clinton?s aides have said her use of private email was not out of the ordinary, pointing to the fact that former Secretary of State Colin Powell also used a personal email account, before the current regulations went into effect. But since 2009, said Laura Diachenko, a National Archives and Records spokeswoman, federal regulations have stated that ?agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record-keeping system.?
The rules are designed to ensure a contemporaneous record of government activity is being kept so it will be available to members of Congress, the news media, historians and ordinary citizens.
Secretary of State John Kerry uses a government email account, and his correspondence is preserved as part of the department?s record-keeping system.
Nick Corasaniti contributed reporting.
By MICHAEL S. SCHMIDT and AMY CHOZICKMARCH 3, 2015
WASHINGTON ? In 2012, congressional investigators asked the State Department for a wide range of documents related to the attack on the United States diplomatic compound in Benghazi, Libya. The department eventually responded, furnishing House committees with thousands of documents.
But it turns out that that was not everything.
The State Department had not searched the email account of former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton because she had maintained a private account, which shielded it from such searches, department officials acknowledged on Tuesday.
It was only last month that the House committee appointed to investigate Benghazi was provided with about 300 of Mrs. Clinton?s emails related to the attacks. That was shortly after Mrs. Clinton turned over, at the State Department?s request, some 50,000 pages of government-related emails that she had kept on her private account.
It was one of several instances in which records requests sent to the State Department, which had no access to Mrs. Clinton?s emails, came up empty.
In 2013, Nitasha Tiku, then a reporter for Gawker, filed a Freedom of Information Act request, seeking all correspondence on Mrs. Clinton?s private email account between her and Sidney Blumenthal, a close adviser and onetime staff member in the Clinton White House. Some of those emails had already spilled into public view and been reported in the news media. But the State Department told Gawker that it could find no records responsive to the request, Gawker reported.
Mrs. Clinton?s aides on Tuesday sought to play down the significance of her exclusive use of a personal email account for State Department business. But an examination of records requests sent to the department reveals how the practice protected a significant amount of her correspondence from the eyes of investigators and the public.
Mrs. Clinton?s exclusive use of personal email for her government business is unusual for a high-level official, archive experts have said. Federal regulations, since 2009, have required that all emails be preserved as part of an agency?s record-keeping system. In Mrs. Clinton?s case, her emails were kept on her personal account and her staff took no steps to have them preserved as part of State Department record.
In response to a State Department request, Mrs. Clinton?s advisers, late last year, reviewed her account and decided which emails to turn over to the State Department.
The State Department says it will now search the 50,000 emails Mrs. Clinton provided in response to Freedom of Information and congressional requests.
The White House, in its first response to the news, said it frowned on the practice of officials using their personal email accounts.
?What I can tell you is that very specific guidance has been given to agencies all across the government, which is specifically that employees of the Obama administration should use their official email accounts when they?re conducting official government business,? the White House spokesman, Josh Earnest, said. ?However, when there are situations where personal email accounts are used, it is important for those records to be preserved consistent with the Federal Records Act.?
But political groups and news organizations said requests for records related to Mrs. Clinton had repeatedly gone unanswered.
In December, The Associated Press said its FOIA requests for records related to Mrs. Clinton?s tenure at the State Department, the oldest of which was submitted in March 2010, were not answered. In addition to requesting Mrs. Clinton?s schedules, The A.P. asked for correspondence related to Huma Abedin?s special arrangement to serve as a top adviser to Mrs. Clinton and consult for private clients. ?We have not received any documents yet, despite the promised deadlines, and we are evaluating the situation,? said Erin Madigan White, spokeswoman for The A.P.
Conservative groups have filed numerous requests for information about Mrs. Clinton as she prepares for a possible presidential run. Citizens United is expecting a court ruling on Friday about a lawsuit the group filed last year after the State Department would not disclose flight records that would have shown who accompanied Mrs. Clinton on overseas trips. The group had intended to cross reference the agency?s flight manifests with the donors who contributed to the Bill, Hillary & Chelsea Clinton Foundation.
The FOIA request was just one of 16 appeals the group has made to the State Department since May that have gone unfulfilled. Those requests also included specific correspondence from Mrs. Clinton and her closest aides, including Cheryl D. Mills and Ms. Abedin.
America Rising, an anti-Clinton ?super PAC,? has submitted a dozen FOIA requests for State Department records beginning last June.
Requests included correspondence between Ms. Mills and Clinton Foundation leadership and Ms. Abedin?s communication with members of Teneo, a private consultancy partly run by Doug Band, a longtime aide to former President Bill Clinton. Ms. Abedin had a special arrangement that allowed her to work at the State Department and be paid by Teneo, which offers strategic advice to major global corporations. America Rising also requested Mrs. Clinton?s schedule during the annual Clinton Global Initiative gatherings in New York.
In all cases, the State Department acknowledged receipt of the FOIA requests and assigned case numbers but did not produce any of the requested documents. ?Unfortunately, Clinton?s own political calculation and desire for secrecy, as evidenced by her exclusive use of personal email accounts while at State, is preventing an open process and full, fair review of her time there,? said Jeff Bechdel, a spokesman for America Rising.
State Department officials have previously said they handle thousands of records requests and try to respond as quickly as possible. On Tuesday, Alec Gerlach, a spokesman for the department, defended the agency, and stressed that it was working diligently to comply with the voluminous requests for information from the Republican-controlled House.
Adrienne Elrod, a spokeswoman for Correct the Record, a pro-Clinton group, called the issue of Mrs. Clinton?s using personal email ?manufactured controversy.?
In a written statement, the National Archives said it had ?reached out to the State Department to ensure that all federal records are properly identified and managed in accordance with the Federal Records Act and that controls and procedures are in place to manage records effectively in the future.?
Continue reading the main story
Mrs. Clinton?s aides have said her use of private email was not out of the ordinary, pointing to the fact that former Secretary of State Colin Powell also used a personal email account, before the current regulations went into effect. But since 2009, said Laura Diachenko, a National Archives and Records spokeswoman, federal regulations have stated that ?agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency record-keeping system.?
The rules are designed to ensure a contemporaneous record of government activity is being kept so it will be available to members of Congress, the news media, historians and ordinary citizens.
Secretary of State John Kerry uses a government email account, and his correspondence is preserved as part of the department?s record-keeping system.
Nick Corasaniti contributed reporting.
Again SO FUCKING WHAT! IT DOESN'T MEAN A FUCKING THING. IT IS NOT RELEVANT TO ANYTHING!!!!
My God!? What is it you're after skul? Do you think they contain something? They don't. You're still trying to make something out I'd absolutely nothing. What relevance does any of this have on anything? You think it will harm her campaign? Of course not! Do you think it will prevent bet from being the next POTUS? Of course not. Do you think it shows how polluted your judgement had become due to political deity? Do you even read this ridiculous shit?
Here's the deal skul n you're hoping that somehow she did something wrong with Benghazi. You're so deluded with hatred you can't even see that even if she was sitting on the phone with the ambassador while he was being pricked with pins until he bled to death. She still didn't do anything wrong. If she was guilty of any of the bullshit you crazy Republican purists keep throwing out there, she still did nothing wrong.
She didn't lie about anything, she certainly didn't make up a story about wmds so she could send thousands of Americans to their death while she profited. Si get the fuck over this childish bullshit and start acting like an adult. Make grown up arguments about politics. This isn't a school body president. Why can't you just face fucking facts. It's so frustrating to see you like man. It really is. I've never seen anyone so adamant about sticking their fingers in their ears when facts are being discussed. It's downright maddening.
Hillary brings Bill back to the white house pure and simple. Whether you like it or not the guy was a great president. The best in your lifetime without a doubt. That alone makes her awesome. The fact that she's well respected among foreign and diplomatic leaders also helps. Republicans will not even come close to the white house for ten more years. Hope they packed plenty of kleenex
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why havnt you figured out that you cant talk logic with Ronnie
he is one track neo con and he is proud of it.
its not that he even gives much of a shit anymore as there is nothing no one can do. We got Hillary for at least 4 yrs. Its a chosen path. The deed is done.
and he dont care
he just likes to mingle
