Newt on Handling Enemies

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I first heard this on the Daily Show, but it was only the last part. Curious to hear the response to this, as it can be taken a couple different ways....but any way you look at it, it is scary.
 

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To me these neo-con assholes have us so hated that Pauls way could be a mistake. U have to love Newt going to the base tho. I never knew u could fit so many clueless jackasses in one room. Only a neo-con puppet could actually think that our so called enemies always fuk with us first :facepalm:
 

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To me these neo-con assholes have us so hated that Pauls way could be a mistake. U have to love Newt going to the base tho. I never knew u could fit so many clueless jackasses in one room. Only a neo-con puppet could actually think that our so called enemies always fuk with us first :facepalm:

Sponge, a Blame America First, Liberal.

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Reviving Western concerns that his government is still contemplating unilateral military action against Iran, Ehud Barak gave one of the clearest signs yet that Israel's support for new US and EU sanctions remains strictly limited.

"We are determined to prevent Iran from turning nuclear," he told the World Economic Forum in Davos. "And even the American president and opinion leaders have said that no option should be removed from the table.

"It seems to us to be urgent, because the Iranians are deliberately drifting into what we call an immunity zone where practically no surgical operation could block them."

Although Israeli intelligence and military officials have privately spoken of Iran's nuclear programme entering a "framework of immunity", it is the first time that a senior figure in Benjamin Netanyahu's government has done so in public.


Israel's fears that it might soon be too late to launch military action were bolstered earlier this month when Iran announced that it had begun to enrich uranium at its Fordow plant, which is buried so deep within a mountain it may be impossible for Israeli warplanes or missiles to destroy.


Mr Barak's ministry believes that once the bulk of uranium enrichment is carried out at Fordow, Iran will be in the immunity zone. Israel also reckons that Iran could be in a position to build a bomb within months, although US officials have been quoted as saying that Tehran will not be able to fit a nuclear warhead onto a missile for some years.

Mr Barak's warning came as inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency, the UN's nuclear watchdog, prepare to resume inspections of Iran's nuclear facilities.

Yukiya Amano, the organisation's head, urged Iran to show full co-operation after an IAEA report published last November concluded that Iran appeared to be pursuing the development of a nuclear weapon. Tehran has long insisted that its nuclear programme is peaceful in intent.

Iran has sent conflicting signals over its nuclear intentions. It has agreed to allow inspections and has spoken vaguely of its willingness to resume negotiations on the future of its nuclear programme.

But it has also threatened to seal off the world's most important oil waterway by blockading the Strait of Hormuz in the Persian Gulf.

In a demonstration of bravado, the Iranian parliament is to meet on Sunday to impose an immediate halt to all oil exports to the European Union.

The EU agreed this week to an embargo on importing oil from Iran, but said it would phase in the sanctions over six months.

If Iran carried out its threat it would pose serious challenges to Greece, Spain and Italy, the EU?s three most vulnerable economies, which account for more than 80 per cent of Iranian oil imports to Europe.

But such a measure would also harm Iran, which exports 18 per cent of its oil to the EU, as there is no guarantee that it would find alternative markets unless it was prepared to sell crude at a heavy discount.
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This is coming to a head and pretty quick action will be taken IMO.

I wonder who will be President when we attack them if it comes to that.

For Isreal to say that Iran is coming to a point of immunity, is bullchit. They just want to do it so there are no chances.

Even if they get the bomb Iran will have to test it to show the world they have it. I doubt they will have more than one, so when they do a test thats when to hit them with all guns blazing. Slam it down.

US is asking for 82 million more dollars on top of the 332 million spent on 30k bomb that will reach deep into the bowls of Iran mountains to knock Irans nuclear energy thoughts out of existance.

The US says that Iran does will not have a missle to use for a nuclear payload. I got news for you. If they get a nuke they will put it in a volkswagon bus and drive it to Israel


Iran is backing down some on threats to US Navy carriers and closing the straights of Hormuzzz

there is no sense for Iran to give US and Isreal a immediated excuse to attack them. At least laying back gets them time to do their dirty work.
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Something has to give and soon.

When the bombs fly the Iran ppl will take to the green streets, pull Armadinajacket into the streets and shoot him in the head. All the Ayatollahs will be taken in the square and hanged.

Maybe the sooner the better.
 

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We should have prevented Israel from going nuclear.

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probably would have been a good idea.


how is Isreal not made to confirm nuclear ?


the world has no proof they have nukes ?

what is the deal with that ?

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Nuclear weapons and Israel


nuclear weapon test

Unknown; possible joint nuclear test with South Africa on September 22, 1979



Israel is widely believed to be the sixth country in the world to have developed nuclear weapons[5] and to be one of four nuclear-armed countries not recognized as a Nuclear Weapons State by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), the others being India, Pakistan and North Korea.[6] Former International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Mohamed ElBaradei regarded Israel as a state possessing nuclear weapons,[7] but Israel maintains a policy known as "nuclear ambiguity" (also known as "nuclear opacity"). Israel has never officially admitted to having nuclear weapons, instead repeating over the years that it would not be the first country to "introduce" nuclear weapons to the Middle East, leaving ambiguity as to whether it means it will not create, will not disclose, will not make first use of the weapons or possibly some other interpretation of the phrase. [8] The "not be the first" formulation goes back to before March 11 1965, when a cable from the US Embassy in Tel Aviv to Washington noted "The Government of Israel has reaffirmed that Israel will not be the first to introduce nuclear weapons into the Arab-Israel area." [9] Israel has refused to sign the NPT despite international pressure to do so, and has stated that signing the NPT would be contrary to its national security interests.[10]

Israel started investigating the nuclear field soon after its founding in 1948 and with French support secretly began building a nuclear reactor and reprocessing plant in the late 1950s. Although Israel first built a nuclear weapon in the late 1960s, it was not publicly confirmed from the inside until Mordechai Vanunu, a former Israeli nuclear technician, revealed details of the program to the British press in 1986.

Israel is currently believed to possess between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads with the ability to deliver them by intercontinental ballistic missile, aircraft, and submarine.[2]






Israel's first Prime Minister David Ben Gurion was "nearly obsessed" with obtaining nuclear weapons to prevent The Holocaust from reoccurring. He stated, "What Einstein, Oppenheimer, and Teller, the three of them are Jews, made for the United States, could also be done by scientists in Israel, for their own people".[11] Ben Gurion decided to recruit Jewish scientists from abroad even before the end of the 1948 Arab-Israeli War that established Israel's independence. He and others, such as head of the Weizmann Institute of Science and defense ministry scientist Ernst David Bergmann, believed and hoped that Jewish scientists such as Oppenheimer and Teller would help Israel.[12]

In 1949 a unit of the Israel Defense Forces Science Corps, known by the Hebrew acronym HEMED GIMMEL, carried out a two year geological survey of the Negev. While a preliminary study was initially prompted by rumors of petroleum fields, one objective of the longer two year survey was to find sources of uranium; some small recoverable amounts were found in phosphate deposits.[2] That year HEMED GIMMEL funded six Israeli physics graduate students to study overseas, including one to go to the University of Chicago and study under Enrico Fermi, who had overseen the world's first artificial and self-sustaining nuclear chain reaction.[13] In early 1952 HEMED GIMMEL was moved from the IDF to the Ministry of Defense and was reorganized as the Division of Research and Infrastructure (EMET). That June Bergmann was appointed by Ben-Gurion to be the first chairman of the Israel Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC).[14]

HEMED GIMMEL was renamed Machon 4 during the transfer, and was used by Bergmann as the "chief laboratory" of the IAEC; by 1953, Machon 4, working with the Department of Isotope Research at the Weizmann Institute, developed the capability to extract uranium from the phosphate in the Negev and new technique to produce indigenous heavy water.[2][15] The techniques were two years more advanced than American efforts.[12] Bergmann, who was interested in increasing nuclear cooperation with the French, sold both patents to the Commissariat ? l'?nergie atomique (CEA) for 60 million francs. Although they were never commercialized, it was a consequential step for future French-Israeli cooperation.[16] In addition, Israeli scientists probably helped construct the G-1 plutonium production reactor and UP-1 reprocessing plant at Marcoule. France and Israel had close relations in many areas. France was principal arms supplier for the young Jewish state, and as instability spread through French colonies in North Africa, Israel provided valuable intelligence obtained from contacts with Sephardi Jews in those countries.[17] At the same time Israeli scientists were also observing France's own nuclear program, and were the only foreign scientists allowed to roam "at will" at the nuclear facility at Marcoule.[18] In addition to the relationships between Israeli and French Jewish and non-Jewish researchers, the French believed that cooperation with Israel could give them access to international Jewish nuclear scientists.[12]

After US President Dwight Eisenhower announced the Atoms for Peace initiative, Israel became the second country to sign on (following Turkey), and signed a peaceful nuclear cooperation agreement with the United States on 12 July 1955.[19][12] This culminated in a public signing ceremony on 20 March 1957 to construct a "small swimming-pool research reactor in Nachal Soreq", which would be used to shroud the construction of a much larger facility with the French at Dimona.[20]

[edit] Dimona 1956?1965

Main article: Negev Nuclear Research Center

[edit] Negotiation

The French justified their decision to provide Israel a nuclear reactor by claiming it was not without precedent. In September 1955 Canada publicly announced that it would help the Indian government build a heavy-water research reactor, the CIRUS, for "peaceful purposes".[21] When Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser nationalized the Suez Canal, France proposed Israel attack Egypt and invade the Sinai as a pretext for France and Britain to invade Egypt posing as "peacekeepers" with the true intent of seizing the Suez Canal (see Suez Crisis). In exchange, France would provide the nuclear reactor as the basis for the Israeli nuclear weapons program. Shimon Peres, sensing the opportunity on the nuclear reactor, accepted. On 17 September 1956, Peres and Bergmann reached a tentative agreement in Paris for the CEA to sell Israel a small research reactor. This was reaffirmed by Peres at the Protocol of S?vres conference in late October for the sale of a reactor to be built near Dimona and for a supply of uranium fuel.[22][12]

Israel benefited from an unusually pro-Israel French government during this time.[12] After the Suez Crisis led to the threat of Soviet intervention and the British and French were being forced to withdraw under pressure from the US, Ben-Gurion sent Peres and Golda Meir to France. During their discussions the groundwork was laid for France to build a larger nuclear reactor and chemical reprocessing plant, and Prime Minister Guy Mollet, ashamed at having abandoned his commitment to fellow socialists in Israel, supposedly told an aide, "I owe the bomb to them",[23] while General Paul Ely, Chief of the Defence Staff, said that "We must give them this to guarantee their security, it is vital." Mollet's successor Maurice Bourg?s-Maunoury stated "I gave you [Israelis] the bomb in order to prevent another Holocaust from befalling the Jewish people and so that Israel could face its enemies in the Middle East."[12]

The French-Israeli relationship was finalized on 3 October 1957 in two agreements whose contents remain secret:[12] One political that declared the project to be for peaceful purposes and specified other legal obligations, and one technical that described a 24 megawatt EL-102 reactor. The one to actually be built was to be two to three times as large[24] and be able to produce 22 kilograms of plutonium a year.[25]

[edit] Excavation

Before construction began it was determined that the scope of the project would be too large for the EMET and IAEC team, so Shimon Peres recruited Colonel Manes Pratt, then Israeli military attach? in Burma, to be the project leader. Building began in late 1957 or early 1958, bringing hundreds of French engineers and technicians to the Beersheba and Dimona area[citation needed]. In addition, thousands of newly immigrated Sephardic Jews were recruited to do digging; to circumvent strict labor laws, they were hired in increments of 59 days, separated by one day off.[26]

[edit] Rupture with France

When Charles de Gaulle became French President in late 1958 he wanted to end French-Israeli nuclear cooperation, and said that he would not supply Israel with uranium unless the plant was opened to international inspectors, declared peaceful, and no plutonium was reprocessed.[27] Through an extended series of negotiations, Shimon Peres finally reached a compromise with Foreign Minister Maurice Couve de Murville over two years later, in which French companies would be able to continue to fulfill their contract obligations and Israel would declare the project peaceful.[28] Due to this, French assistance did not end until 1966.[29]

[edit] British aid

Top secret British documents[30][31] obtained by BBC Newsnight show that Britain made hundreds of secret shipments of restricted materials to Israel in the 1950s and 1960s. These included specialist chemicals for reprocessing and samples of fissile material?uranium-235 in 1959, and plutonium in 1966, as well as highly enriched lithium-6 which is used to boost fission bombs and fuel hydrogen bombs.[32] The investigation also showed that Britain shipped 20 tons of heavy water directly to Israel in 1959 and 1960 to start up the Dimona reactor.[33] The transaction was made through a Norwegian front company called Noratom which took a 2% commission on the transaction. Britain was challenged about the heavy water deal at the International Atomic Energy Agency after it was exposed on Newsnight in 2005. British Foreign Minister Kim Howells claimed this was a sale to Norway. But a former British intelligence officer who investigated the deal at the time confirmed that this was really a sale to Israel and the Noratom contract was just a charade.[34] The Foreign Office finally admitted in March 2006 that Britain knew the destination was Israel all along.[35] Israel admits running the Dimona reactor with Norway's heavy water since 1963. French engineers who helped build Dimona say the Israelis were expert operators, so only a relatively small portion of the water were lost during the years past since the first operation of the reactor.[36]

[edit] Criticality

In 1961, the Israeli Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion informed the Canadian Prime Minister John Diefenbaker that a pilot plutonium-separation plant would be built at Dimona. British intelligence concluded from this and other information that this "can only mean that Israel intends to produce nuclear weapons".[30] The
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I first heard this on the Daily Show, but it was only the last part. Curious to hear the response to this, as it can be taken a couple different ways....but any way you look at it, it is scary.
Vote for Newt!!!

He will ethnically cleanse the world of non-Christian brown-skinned people. :0074
 

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?n the Reagan White House, Newt Gingrich was considered quite frankly by a lot of folks to be something of a political opportunist and who was not trusted and who had played no role whatsoever,? Buchanan said. ?He was a Rockefeller Republican in the great Goldwater-Rockefeller battle, where conservatism came of age.?

Buchanan also theorized that Gingrich stumbled in two debates this week because he was caught off guard by all these people who turned on him.

?I do think this, though. Newt has been pounded merciously,? Buchanan said. ?He had people he worked with basically turn on him and dump on him down there in Florida, which somehow I think may have had some role in the fact that the great fighter and battler of South Carolina had no fight in him whatsoever in the Monday and Thursday debates in Florida.?

?He let Mitt Romney punch him silly. And he has lost all his momentum. And John, I?m not going to make any predictions because I thought the battler of South Carolina would win Florida, but Romney is surging and it looks like Romney may win Florida. And if he does, it?s all over.?

Later Buchanan reiterated his criticisms of Gingrich, recalling his opposition to Reagan?s 1986 veto of a South African anti-Apartheid sanctions bill and about how Gingrich used it to score points against Reagan.

?I don?t think he has a core,? Buchanan said. ?I don?t think he has a fundamental, ideological and political core. I think, look he moved, he was a Rockefeller Republican, he comes up ? I remember meeting him in ?78 when he came to town, you know he is knocking Reagan. ? Reagan believed that sanctions on South Africa would cripple the economy that the Africans would inherit. So it was a tough decision. Reagan vetoed it. And he scored points off us by you know voting for the sanctions and doing that. I don?t think he has an ideological core. I think he moves from one issue to another to another.?


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Bing Boom Bam..............
 

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When I first was aware of how Conservatives were not my cup of tea was with Barry Goldwater running for President.


I was young, but I knew.


kinda scary to think about
 
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