no b.s. from canadian p.m. stephen harper

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OTTAWA (AFP) - "Canada will not hold talks with “genocidal” groups Hamas and Hezbollah to try to secure Mideast peace, Prime Minister Stephen Harper said in an interview with broadcaster CTV, to be aired Saturday.

“We will not solve the Palestinian-Israeli problem, as difficult as that is, through organizations that advocate violence and advocate wiping Israel off the face of the Earth,” Harper said.

“It’s unfortunate because with Hamas, and with Hezbollah in Lebanon, it has made it very difficult to have dialogue — and dialogue is ultimately necessary to have peace in the long term — but we are not going to sit down with people whose objectives are ultimately genocidal.”

“I think all of the civilized world is agreed — and it’s not just Canada — we can’t deal with organizations whose principle and only objective is terrorism and the eradication of the other side.”


go figure...how the hell did harper squeeze through the canadian p.c. thresher? .....the same one that spawned jacques chretien?.....

is this the fabled "leadership" i've heard so much about?...it's a sad reflection of western civilization that harper's common sense comments are unusual, rather than the norm.......

major props....major props.... to a true leader in the truest sense of the word....now, if the rest of the world took this stance, hamas and hezbollah would be a footnote in the history books beside the term "the dark ages of eastern asia"....

first george st pierre and now this?.....this clinches it...i`m rooting for montreal to win the stanley cup....

can harper and john howard run here in "08"?
 

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Yep Weasal another right winger who only sees one side of this issue. Im sure in your eyes and this clowns, Isreal is as clean as the southern sky. You really need to broden your news sources kiddo. This guy sounds a lot like Bush. How far has this gotten us? Funny thing weasal the people of Isreal want to talk with Hamas. They want peace but as long as govt like ours and isreal have braindead people like you believeing these groups are monsters, there will never be peace over there or here. there really is an easy solution to this problem but the occupiers don't want to listen to it. I wonder how the occupiers would feel if they were the ones being occupied?
 

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if only bush sounded like harper.....read any newspaper or turn on any news broadcast and you're bound to encounter stories of islamic radicals fighting, killing and threatening each other - and just about everyone else....

that`s a fact,my man....another fact is that they want to kill you...and any other swinging dick that doesn`t convert....

the survival of our free and open society depends on men like harper, who are prepared to defend it vigorously against a descent into barbarism....

israel should give up more land?..a country the size of a postage stamp......so hezbollah can fire more rockets into israel from better strategic positions?....if you give and give, you will lose everything.....



read.....
""The 41-year-old, a former militant who is now unemployed, has turned one of the rooms of his house into a makeshift aviary.

In the same room, seven of his 11 children sleep at night.

"I feel like I'm free when I hear the canaries," says Hatim, the birdcages swaying gently above his head. "They help me forget about all my problems."

Like many in Gaza, Hatim will remember 2006 as the year problems piled up. Even by Palestinian standards, the hardships suffered this year have been extraordinary.

First came the international economic boycott which followed the election of Hamas. That embargo plunged many Palestinians here into poverty.""

this is liberal msm spin ....

my take is,first, why is this "former militant" unemployed?.... too many others competing for the job of "militant," or did he decide on a career change?...

secondly, i realize that you have to make your own fun in a society that bans music, or much of anything else in the way of amusement...but you might want to consider how you're going to support 11 children before you get there, perhaps somewhere between--oh, i don't know--numbers three and seven, perhaps?......

thirdly, it's probably a bitch having to come up with ak-47s for 11 kids, especially at today's smuggling prices, not to mention keeping them in ammo for the school year.....

fortunately it's possible to reduce expenses somewhat by buying school uniforms( bomb belts)only once......... real savings there....


if they put half the effort...along with all these oil rich arab countries...into making gaza a thriving society...instead of a festering pustule,they`d have a half a chance at leading decent,meaningful lives.....

after all,they live on basically the same desert that the israelis live on...

and guess what?...now they`ve given the israelis a break and they`re killing each other.....

i don't understand how the world can be so stupid.....

sounds like you`re still in that "comma".....
 
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"really need to broden your news sources kiddo"

you really don't need to read any news source to tell good guy from bad Sponge--Just look who builds the walls to keep people out and who builds them to keep people in ;)

People generaaly don't risk their lives to go undesirable place--neither do they do so to leave desirable place.

As I said many times if you had liberals and conservatives divided geographically by wall--who do you think would be be trying to get to other side and why?-for hint--

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267917
 

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"really need to broden your news sources kiddo"

you really don't need to read any news source to tell good guy from bad Sponge--Just look who builds the walls to keep people out and who builds them to keep people in ;)

People generaaly don't risk their lives to go undesirable place--neither do they do so to leave desirable place.

As I said many times if you had liberals and conservatives divided geographically by wall--who do you think would be be trying to get to other side and why?-for hint--

http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=267917

Dog, first of all these labels you are sucked into throwing around time and time again are just things to divide people. All of us have liberal view as well as conservative view's. To tell you the truth in this day in age there is only one party that is liberal and conservative and its the Democratic party. You can't honestly think this administration is conservative do you? Look i have said on this site more than a few times that my views are more in touch with conservatives but in no way this clan you so proudly represent is conservative. What is conservative about running up huge debt time and time again. Maybe i could understand you better if you can give me the definition of liberal and conservative. My definition of conservative seems to be completely different from yours. I just dont get you. You sound like a guy that loves to give credit to people who work hard and earn their own keep but on the backside it seems like you also approve of people who make money the rotten way. I think you like the majority of americans care nothing about the deficit or the debt. It bothers me because i know it has a trickle down affect. What this country needs to do is show everyone what our taxes are paying for. At the end of the year everyone should get a list for what there taxes paid for.. I think when you see this it might finally hit home.
 

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Your right Sponge--would be better to provide examples than tags--

Bottom line--you could have area and a few simple rules and have 99.9 % employment and 99.9% free of welfare-aids and terrorist attacks.
 
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