NOAA Oct 3rd coldest on record

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Fuck you are annoying.

Didn't we already go thru this bullshit.

One days weather means fucking nothing.

But, your agenda does not wait for facts or any actual knowledge about shit.
 

DOGS THAT BARK

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Its the entire month of october -not oct 3rd

--they took all the days of Oct added them -then found the ave temp. That ave temp (of the enire month of October)was the 3rd coldest since they been keeping records.
--also there is link with line under it--if you click on it--graphs and other supporting facts will appear and further explain.

If you need anymore help I'll be back in early am..
 

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Do you think man has anything to do with polluting our environment? Do you think in the years of factories, automobiles, industrialization, that all of the things that have come from that have been ok with our environment? Do you think those things have been good or bad for our environment?

I'll start there.
 

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Its the entire month of october -not oct 3rd

--they took all the days of Oct added them -then found the ave temp. That ave temp (of the enire month of October)was the 3rd coldest since they been keeping records.
--also there is link with line under it--if you click on it--graphs and other supporting facts will appear and further explain.

If you need anymore help I'll be back in early am..

I don't need any of your help trust me.

We go back and forth with this stupid shit all the time and after this I am done with it.

Global warming leads to climate change which means more drastic changes in temperatures.

So extreme cold could very well be a result of global warming.

Global warming does not strictly mean that it is going to be super hot all the time. I understand you just want to use low temperatures as proof that global warming is a hoax.

Perhaps just stick to your posts with underlines of racism.
 

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Do you think man has anything to do with polluting our environment? Do you think in the years of factories, automobiles, industrialization, that all of the things that have come from that have been ok with our environment? Do you think those things have been good or bad for our environment?

I'll start there.

of course they omit pollution Chad -thats not the question.

Yep and I think all them dinasaurs farting years back probably caused a lot more gas than livestock liberals are whining about nowdays.

Do you believe they caused the ice age?

--or let me put it another way-when temps have been getting colder for a decade--and they are swearing its causing global warming--has the thought of maybe they are full of shit -ever entered your mind?
 

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?

--or let me put it another way-when temps have been getting colder for a decade--and they are swearing its causing global warming--has the thought of maybe they are full of shit -ever entered your mind?

I think you are full of shit :shrug:

Meteorologists: Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand
By Lisa Schlein
Geneva
14 January 2009


The World Meteorological Organization says cold weather does not mean that global warming has abated. WMO says people should not confuse weather with climate.

People in Europe are shivering, while people in North Asia and parts of Australia are sweltering. Scientists say these weather extremes are to be expected and neither phenomenon can be used as a case for or against global warming.

Michel Jarraud
Michel Jarraud
Secretary-General of the World Meteorological Organization, Michel Jarraud, says people should not confuse local weather variability with climate change.

Just because people in Geneva and elsewhere in Europe are shivering does not mean global warming has stopped. He says the trend toward global warming is still there.

"I think we have to be careful not to interpret any single event as a proof of either warming or the fact that warming has stopped," he said. "When scientists look at the global warming, they take into account many, many old possible available evidence. So, we cannot explain any single phenomenon by one single cause."

Jarraud says last year was cooler than the year before, but 2008 still ranks as the 10th warmest year on record.

He says average global surface temperatures have climbed significantly since 1850, when historical weather statistics were first recorded.

"Global warming will mean that heat waves like the one we got in Western Europe in 2003 will become more frequent. But, it does not mean that the 2003 heat wave was produced by global warming ... Last year, we know that part of the relative cooling was due to the La Nina phenomena, which was moderate to strong in the first part of 2008. Then in the second part of 2008, it became closer to what we call neutral condition. Now, it is a little bit unclear what will happen this year," he said.

Jarraud says every year, somewhere in the world weather records will be broken. He says every year, exceptional weather events will take place somewhere in the world. He says people have to look at the global picture to assess whether climate change is taking place.

Scientists say human activity contributes to climate change, but they do not agree on the pace at which climate change may be unfolding.
 

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Sure, Wayne - it's entered my mind. And of course I don't disallow that much of the evidence of anything is funded and concocted by those with an agenda.

But YOU guys dismiss our role in any of this - and I mean you, me, and all Americans - as anything we should take responsibility for, or make an effort to change.

America is the worlds biggest polluter. Has been for many years. Maybe China is now (I haven't checked). We put more crap into our environment than any other country. To think that what we do does not have a detrimental effect on our world is not acceptable to me. Whether it's global warming, or tearing into our atmosphere, or other issues isn't the point to me. I KNOW that man is a problem in many ways, and we should do what we can to alleviate that. To say otherwise, in the ongoing mantra of capitalism, and the fact that other countries don't take the same steps, is shortsighted, and selfish.

America does not, and should not, share the same value system as other countries - especially those that we (and YOU) completely disagree with, and say are countries we should fight against (except China, pretty much).

Of course your time on this planet is mostly tied up in capitalism and making money. It's up to each of us to decide what's important in the big picture, I guess. :shrug:
 

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Sorry Shawn -when I got to--
Global Warming and Cold Weather Go Hand-In-Hand
I quit reading.

Chad We had this discussion before--I agree with 110% we should be as responsible as possible on environment.

--Their carbon tax will not force companies to reduce emisions it will only tax them--and put in gov pocket.

Think about this paragraph from George Will for a second --
http://www.newsweek.com/id/221608/page/2

Waxman-Markey's goal is just slightly more than 1 billion tons of greenhouse-gas emissions in 2050. The last time this nation had that small an amount was 1910, when there were only 92 million Americans, 328 million fewer than the 420 million projected for 2050. To meet the 83 percent reduction target in a nation of 420 million, per capita carbon-dioxide emissions would have to be no more than 2.4 tons per person, which is onequarter the per capita emissions of 1910, a level probably last seen when the population was 45 million?in 1875.
Such nonsense is rare, but nonsensical fears are not.
 
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