North Korea

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Hmm don't hear any Dems beating those drums--appears GW may have finally bailed the world out of fiasco Billy Bob got the world into.
Breaking News--

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,371927,00.html

 

[gardenweasel]

can`t wait for all the comments congratulating the chimperor for getting kim jong il to disarm.....


hozannahs to start in 5..4..3..2....

 

[StevieD]

can`t wait for all the comments congratulating the chimperor for getting kim jong il to disarm.....


hozannahs to start in 5..4..3..2....

Gee to think that only a year after the Dems took control of Congress! Great work guys!

 

[Cie]

Gee to think that only a year after the Dems took control of Congress! Great work guys!

Exactly, all that goes wrong in the world is the result of Bush's IQ of 75 and Cheney's lust for oil, while any positive progress is spurred by the dem congress.

Wake up, guy. There's a whole world to enjoy outside of Kookville ......

 

[gardenweasel]

Gee to think that only a year after the Dems took control of Congress! Great work guys!

you`re confusing the administration`s diplomatic corps in the 6 party negotiations w/n.korea with congressional sloth that`s resulted in gas going from $2.30 a gallon to $4.10 in the space of a year and a half...

"but g.w.,we won`t benefit from oil drilling for at least 5 years"......

good point...so,stop sending your kids to school...they won`t derive any monetary benefit from school for around 12-15 years.....

why waste the time,eh?

 

[kosar]

NK is almost back to where they were in 2000. Good work.

 

[StevieD]

NK is almost back to where they were in 2000. Good work.

BINGO! We have a winner! Now, what did we give up to get back where we were?

 

[gardenweasel]

NK is almost back to where they were in 2000. Good work.

translation....please

 

[kosar]

translation....please

The translation is that in 2000, the fuel rods were sealed, there were real-time cameras in all of their sensitive facilities, inspectors were on the ground.

That all changed when Cowboy Georgie rattled his saber.

Now it appears that we're bribing...uh....nevermind, that word only applies to Clintons deal.

We're using great diplomacy to try to put the genie back in the bottle.

Lemme know if you need further clarification, weasel.

 

[kosar]

Now, what did we give up to get back where we were?

Seems to me the same things Clinton gave up and these same guys bashed the hell out of him for it.

This is different somehow though.

Wayne,

Don't bother with a 'well, China is onboard this time' retort.

It's the same exact thing.

China only began to pay attention when NK tested a supposed low-level nuke, even though some experts still debate whether it was even a nuke to begin with.

 

[gardenweasel]

lol...i remember when clinton`s military chief of staff testified in 1998 that n.k. did not have an active ballistic missile program. ...

then,a week later the north koreans launched a missile over japan that landed off the alaskan coast....:mj07:

the clintons and most notably,madddy halfbright and their crack envoy jimmy carter got completely played by il....this ranks right up there with jimmy giving away the panama canal....

cameras?....bwahaha...we gave hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, food, oil and even a nuclear reactor.....there was obviously NO verification...

all that aid went to their nuclear program and in the interim over 1 million n.koreans starved to death....

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/10/16/us.nkorea/


noteworthy..."The diplomatic term describes the 1994 agreement under which North Korea said it would no longer seek to develop nuclear weapons."

" The agreement also called for inspections to verify that the terms were being adhered to, but so far Pyongyang has blocked all attempts to make such inspections. "

"Another senior U.S. official told CNN that Washington received intelligence "back over the summer months" indicating that North Korea had a nuclear weapons program involving the use of highly enriched uranium.

The intelligence, the official said, indicated the program was launched in the late 1990s -- several years after North Korea signed the agreement with the United States, Japan and South Korea."

tough negotiators.jimmy carter and madolame albright?....

thats precious...

thanks george....somebody had to do it before bock embarks on carter`s second term as potus....

 

[THE KOD]

OK here is what I heard.

North Korea has 4 or 5 nulcear bombs already made from when they were doing their uranium enrichment.

what happens to them :shrug:

So N Korea is a nuclear power and they are just not going to make any more ?

wtf thats not a victory.

 

[kosar]

lol...i remember when clinton`s military chief of staff testified in 1998 that n.k. did not have an active ballistic missile program. ...

then,a week later the north koreans launched a missile over japan that landed off the alaskan coast....:mj07:

the clintons and most notably,madddy halfbright and their crack envoy jimmy carter got completely played by il....this ranks right up there with jimmy giving away the panama canal....

cameras?....bwahaha...we gave hundreds of millions of dollars in aid, food, oil and even a nuclear reactor.....there was obviously NO verification...

all that aid went to their nuclear program and in the interim over 1 million n.koreans starved to death....

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/10/16/us.nkorea/


noteworthy..."The diplomatic term describes the 1994 agreement under which North Korea said it would no longer seek to develop nuclear weapons."

" The agreement also called for inspections to verify that the terms were being adhered to, but so far Pyongyang has blocked all attempts to make such inspections. "

"Another senior U.S. official told CNN that Washington received intelligence "back over the summer months" indicating that North Korea had a nuclear weapons program involving the use of highly enriched uranium.

The intelligence, the official said, indicated the program was launched in the late 1990s -- several years after North Korea signed the agreement with the United States, Japan and South Korea."

tough negotiators.jimmy carter and madolame albright?....

thats precious...

thanks george....somebody had to do it before bock embarks on carter`s second term as potus....

I never said Carter, Clinton and Albright were 'tough negotiators.' However, if this deal works perfectly, it will simply get us back to where we were with NK, and that would be a good thing, comparatively speaking.

I don't remember any military chief of staff saying that NK didn't have a ballistic missile program in 1998, but if they did, they would have be insane or retarded(no offense to spongy personally).

Let's face it, this deal is very, very similar to the one in 1994.

Maybe we'll even eventually get around to finishing those light-water reactors that Clinton promised as part of that agreement. :shrug:

I'd be a little cautious before crowing too much before we see how it goes. Needless to say, NK is more than just a little erratic.

 

[gardenweasel]

OK here is what I heard.

North Korea has 4 or 5 nulcear bombs already made from when they were doing their uranium enrichment.

what happens to them :shrug:

So N Korea is a nuclear power and they are just not going to make any more ?

wtf thats not a victory.

fact is,nobody knows what they have....

why?...cause they won`t allow inspections......

maybe kosar could get in there with his nikon...

 

[kosar]

fact is,nobody knows what they have....

why?...cause they won`t allow inspections......

maybe kosar could get in there with his nikon...

Uhhhh, they used to allow inspections. Even allowed video cameras. Until 2003, I believe it was. Do the math.

Oh, I think it was also in 2003 when they unsealed and started re-processing their fuel rods. Weird how that's somehow Jimmy Carters fault.

 

[StevieD]

Uhhhh, they used to allow inspections. Even allowed video cameras. Until 2003, I believe it was. Do the math.

Oh, I think it was also in 2003 when they unsealed and started re-processing their fuel rods. Weird how that's somehow Jimmy Carters fault.

Every Bush blunder is the fault of every dem going back to Carter. Come ob Kosar get with the program!

 

[dawgball]

I am always impressed with how much you guys stay up to date on with this stuff.

 

[Jabberwocky]

"with congressional sloth that`s resulted in gas going from $2.30 a gallon to $4.10 in the space of a year and a half"

Jesus Fvcking Christ. The idiocy never ends. Look for the pattern GW. I will post it again. Do you see a trend?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Seems to me the same things Clinton gave up and these same guys bashed the hell out of him for it.

This is different somehow though.

Wayne,

Don't bother with a 'well, China is onboard this time' retort.

It's the same exact thing.

China only began to pay attention when NK tested a supposed low-level nuke, even though some experts still debate whether it was even a nuke to begin with.

NOTHING near the same--had Dems got their one on one agenda they were calling for THEN we'd be back where we were--plus we are not footing the bill for their nukes like Billy Bob and the liberals did--their reward is- little lighter beating with "the stick" vs dumping truck loads of carrots.

if you think the liberals aren't trying to give this one the ole:wall: THINK AGAIN
--stick it in there with their we lost--retreat-surge won't work mantra--and you got a liberal blue print on foreign affairs.

The real pisser is-- imagine having political party and their followers among us that cringe when they hear good news in war and NK.:nooo:

 

[kosar]

NOTHING near the same--had Dems got their one on one agenda they were calling for THEN we'd be back where we were--plus we are not footing the bill for their nukes like Billy Bob and the liberals did--their reward is- little lighter beating with "the stick" vs dumping truck loads of carrots.

if you think the liberals aren't trying to give this one the ole:wall: THINK AGAIN
--stick it in there with their we lost--retreat-surge won't work mantra--and you got a liberal blue print on foreign affairs.

The real pisser is-- imagine having political party and their followers among us that cringe when they hear good news in war and NK.:nooo:

Ok, if you say so. We 'bribed' them this time just like we did in 1994. I'm happy that we are engaging NK. The peninsula has a special place in my heart and really do hope that nothing happens again there.

Like I mentioned in an above post, we'll see how 'easy' this is and 14 years from now 1994-2008 (probably won't take nearly that long), we'll see how this goes.

NK is intractable no matter who is in office, but they tested a supposed nuke on W's watch. They re-processed fuel rods on W's watch. They kicked out the inspectors on W's watch, they turned off the cameras on W's watch.

It's simply amazing how Bubba and Carter somehow get blamed for this.

Whatever the case, like I said, I think it's a bit premature to get all excited about an 'agreement' that will get us, if it is exactly adhered to, back to where we were in 2000.

That's a fact.