First of all as a OSU fan I will not be playing this game. Every time I have any kind of money near OSU I end up on the losing end. Hence the Penn State loss and losing the Illinois/OSU over last week and the last five years of misfortune. When will I learn! This weeks line is way off Northwestern is going to give us a battle. We'll win but only by single digit and did line makers forget last season all ready. Northwestern has a four-year starter at QB and an experienced QB has always given us problems in the past. Northwestern is going to spread our defense out and attack our young corners. This is awesome a veteran offensive line with a true-frosh Ohio's Mr. Football in the backfield. Now our defense is going to play tough but our QB is awful. All of Troy Smith's stats are due to the talent of our WRs. If you have seem him play you would agree. He over throws WRs constantly and he locks on to WR and doesn't check off to others that are usually wide open. He doesn't know how to stay in the pocket and usually ends up running after his primary WR is covered. He also turns the ball over a lot with either bad throws trying to force the ball in double or sometimes triple coverage or fumbles. The guy also has no touch on the ball, he throws a five yard slant as hard as he can which make a harder catch for the wide-out. This guy is a curse on Ohio State. He just will never be the kind of QB needs behind the center. Its just amazing that Ohio States program which is somewhat held in high regard cannot develop a QB. Maybe we need to reevaluate our recruiting at that position. What really really pisses me off is that the media here in Columbus praise this dip shit. Its like the media and the fans are on completely opposite sides of the fence. Maybe the media is afraid of Tressel or afraid that he might leave. Maybe they just don't want to go against Tressel, who has been referred to as God by some here in Columbus after bringing home the National Championship. Now Tressel is a whole other ball of wax, basically you can't always win with field goals. Bottom line with Northwestern experience and OSU's lack of talent at QB, Northwestern covers the points but OSU wins by single digits.
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I couldn't agree more! When I first saw this line, I about crapped :mj07: . I too am a Buckeye fan and know that Northwestern should and will cover this game. The line is off by about 10 pts. GL
already took N.W + 14
i like the bucks but not laying that many would not be surprised if n.w wins out right
i like the bucks but not laying that many would not be surprised if n.w wins out right
im actually shocked the line is as low as it is. had this one projected at (-19) or (-20). northwestern is a fraud. the only thing saving them here is that ohio state has michigan up next. i dont necessarily disagree with anything you said about troy smith -- hes erratic as hell. but it wouldnt surprise me to see a serious ass whooping here. last years upset only lessens the possibility of an osu lookahead.
Gman, you can't be serious about Troy Smith. I haven't missed a single snap this season he is awful. Trust me this guy sucks just watch Saturday and you will agree. No blowout here Gman, the Buckeyes have always been surrounded by inconsistencies. I have played Northwestern so much this year I really feel like I know them. Its been a hell of a season for Wildcats and thier is a lot of fight in this team. Like I said before I have been on them all year $$$, and I have known when to go against them like Mich. Norhtwestern will give us fits and they cover with points. I am not saying we're going to lose but it is going to be tough for us to put them away.
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thom24ad said:
1) didnt i just agree with you about troy smith?
2) no need to watch him on saturday. ive seen him in person on the high school level, and ive seen him repeatedly in college.
i just agreed with you about him.
that said, northwestern is still a fraud. its mind-boggling that a team that a week or two ago had the worst defense in division 1-a football can be going to a bowl.
ohio state could seriously name the score here, but i just think the michigan game looms too large. but pittman should have a field day against them, and whenever pittman has played well, osu as a team has followed.
Sorry Gman I had it backwards there. You been watching his sorry as since high school he's better off catching the ball then throwing it in my opinion. I hope your right about the score because I am telling you they don't call those cats wild for nothing! Tressel can try and slow the game down all he wants but Northwestern is going to be able to move the ball by speading out the defense.
I hate chalk with a passion and I am very tempted to take Ohio st. here. Northwestern is a fraud, think Sutton and Basanez get smacked in the mouth a few times and run for cover. They are very soft and that Ohio st. defense is just so fast and physical. Think Northwestern gets their asses beat on Saturday.
Front Page of the Sports Section
Front Page of the Sports Section
So its early morning and of course I go straight to the sports section and who do I see? "Growing in Stature" Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern's true-frosh being label as a phenom. This kid was Ohio's Mr. Football and his senior year rushed for 3,241 yards and 38 TDs. He also set the Ohio prep career rushing mark at 9,426 yards and to boot this kid set a single game rushing record of 505 yards. He has several quotes in this article "They had the chance for four years to look at me and they didn't" and "All I say to the teams that passed on me is, 'Come look at me now'" and "'If you don't want me, I'll make you wish you did want me.'". Seems like this kid has a chip on his shoulder and some things to prove. Tressel excuse for another one slipping through the cracks of our recruiting is its a "timing issue". "Timing issue", what the hell is that! Its either the kid can play ball or he can't. There is no reason that Ohio's Mr. Football should be playing for any other team besides Thee Ohio State University. :cursin:
I really don't see us blown this team out of the water.
Front Page of the Sports Section
So its early morning and of course I go straight to the sports section and who do I see? "Growing in Stature" Tyrell Sutton, Northwestern's true-frosh being label as a phenom. This kid was Ohio's Mr. Football and his senior year rushed for 3,241 yards and 38 TDs. He also set the Ohio prep career rushing mark at 9,426 yards and to boot this kid set a single game rushing record of 505 yards. He has several quotes in this article "They had the chance for four years to look at me and they didn't" and "All I say to the teams that passed on me is, 'Come look at me now'" and "'If you don't want me, I'll make you wish you did want me.'". Seems like this kid has a chip on his shoulder and some things to prove. Tressel excuse for another one slipping through the cracks of our recruiting is its a "timing issue". "Timing issue", what the hell is that! Its either the kid can play ball or he can't. There is no reason that Ohio's Mr. Football should be playing for any other team besides Thee Ohio State University. :cursin:
I really don't see us blown this team out of the water.
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I will be very superised if the buckeye's punt more than twice in this game if at all. OSU should score on every possession imo. The question here is how many pts. can NW score, see them behind 20 pts the whole game but can they seek in the back door?
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Buckeyes or nothing IMO. G-man is right on in terms of NWU being overrated.
I attend every game and watch the rest of them just like you Thom. Simply put, I would NOT bet against the Buckeyes soley b/c of Troy Smith. Yeah he can't excute a pass very well, but he is not a stigma to our offense when matched up against a poor defense. The offense has proven it can take advantage of soft defenses (see last 4 against Mich St., Indiana, Minny, Illni). 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games for all you trend lovers out there.
With 68% of the public on NWU and the line sliding the wrong way...not to mention a typical Buckeye fan with his blinders on touting the wrong side, and I gotta say the Bucks are the way to go IF you chose to play this game at all. Personally I'm laying off, as I get enough action just being there and watching the Bucks win at the Shoe.
Don't expect Sutton to run wild on us either. Hawk and Co. will pound his ass. Game sets up very similarly to the Wisky/Penn St. game last week on multiple fronts. I'm just waiting for Scott4usc to come out and back NWU because of some serious BS like they are returning 5 starters from injury to replace the true freshman walk ons they have been playing all year.
The Bucks are still contenders for the Big 10 title and a BCS birth. They play this game at 100% and worry about Michigan starting Sunday (well probably Saturday afternoon).
Go Bucks!
I attend every game and watch the rest of them just like you Thom. Simply put, I would NOT bet against the Buckeyes soley b/c of Troy Smith. Yeah he can't excute a pass very well, but he is not a stigma to our offense when matched up against a poor defense. The offense has proven it can take advantage of soft defenses (see last 4 against Mich St., Indiana, Minny, Illni). 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games for all you trend lovers out there.
With 68% of the public on NWU and the line sliding the wrong way...not to mention a typical Buckeye fan with his blinders on touting the wrong side, and I gotta say the Bucks are the way to go IF you chose to play this game at all. Personally I'm laying off, as I get enough action just being there and watching the Bucks win at the Shoe.
Don't expect Sutton to run wild on us either. Hawk and Co. will pound his ass. Game sets up very similarly to the Wisky/Penn St. game last week on multiple fronts. I'm just waiting for Scott4usc to come out and back NWU because of some serious BS like they are returning 5 starters from injury to replace the true freshman walk ons they have been playing all year.
The Bucks are still contenders for the Big 10 title and a BCS birth. They play this game at 100% and worry about Michigan starting Sunday (well probably Saturday afternoon).
Go Bucks!
People are on the Bucks side with line going from 16 to currently 19. I still feel its too many points. Like the over though and I am still trying to swing some tickets for Saturday's game.
MoeClarret (funny username),
Have you heard the little rumor that we might see ND in the Fiesta Bowl?
MoeClarret (funny username),
Have you heard the little rumor that we might see ND in the Fiesta Bowl?
this game has texas/texas tech written all over it.
the games are strikingly similar, as well as the vegas lines.
a lot of people are enamored with the high scoring underdog and are quick to grab the points, thinking that even though the favorite is better, the dog can put enough points on the board to stay inside the number.
but ohio state, much like texas, is so much more physical and thats where a significant class edge shows up.
not a huge ohio state fan, but this is one of the best #10 teams in a long time. some have said that usc, texas, and ohio state are all interchangeable right now. not sure if id go that far. but i do think ohio state is a top 5 right now behind usc, texas, a healthy miami, and still would give them an edge of penn state on a neutral field. but thats for another day.
think the class edge shows up here, unless osu is totally caught looking ahead to next week.
the games are strikingly similar, as well as the vegas lines.
a lot of people are enamored with the high scoring underdog and are quick to grab the points, thinking that even though the favorite is better, the dog can put enough points on the board to stay inside the number.
but ohio state, much like texas, is so much more physical and thats where a significant class edge shows up.
not a huge ohio state fan, but this is one of the best #10 teams in a long time. some have said that usc, texas, and ohio state are all interchangeable right now. not sure if id go that far. but i do think ohio state is a top 5 right now behind usc, texas, a healthy miami, and still would give them an edge of penn state on a neutral field. but thats for another day.
think the class edge shows up here, unless osu is totally caught looking ahead to next week.
I think Michigan showed that a solid defensive scheme using great athletes can shut down NW"S offense. And then you simply pound the ball on offense against their lousy defense to control the game. If Michigan can do this, certainly the Buckeyes can too. I'm not laying 19 but I can't see taking the Wildcats and the points either.
The total has been sitting at 57. I lean to the under because I think NW will struggle to score more than twice but OSU's explosiveness is a concern. They can score in a hurry against bad defenses.
I'll pass on the game and wait till next week and take the home dog in Ann Arbor.
The total has been sitting at 57. I lean to the under because I think NW will struggle to score more than twice but OSU's explosiveness is a concern. They can score in a hurry against bad defenses.
I'll pass on the game and wait till next week and take the home dog in Ann Arbor.
BGFalcon said:
im really interested in seeing where this line opens. im not so sure ohio state will be laying points. i think michigan could be a (-2) or (-3) favorite. wolverines were laying pts vs penn state and were in a position to cover for most of the game and then the whole non-extra point thing came into play. i think a lot of the line will be a reflection of how both mich and osu play this week. even though both are playing weak teams, the results could skew the line a point or two one way or the other. would be very surprised to see osu favored even though theyre the better team. we'll see.
Thom - Yeah I'm hearing people talk about the ND Fiesta Bowl match up and Herbie talks about it on 1460 with Huly pretty much every afternoon (when he is in town). Personally I think its a long shot b/c if ND remains BCS eligible and the Orange bowl takes first shot, they would be morons not to take ND, and Miami would probably go due to affiliation. But it would be an awesome game and if you thought the 02 nat'l championship game in Tempe was over run with Buckeyes...
OSU/'Team up North' line will most likely hover around a PK or home team-1, assuming both teams win this weekend without any serious injuries. Based on OSU's road play and the seriousness of this rivalry, I'd be surprised to see the Bucks favored here.
OSU/'Team up North' line will most likely hover around a PK or home team-1, assuming both teams win this weekend without any serious injuries. Based on OSU's road play and the seriousness of this rivalry, I'd be surprised to see the Bucks favored here.
