Novak: I've never seen a president so isolated from his own party

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Novak: I've never seen a president so isolated from his own party

Mike Sheehan, Published: Monday March 26, 2007

President Bush is an increasingly lonely figure as his presidency wanes, conservative commentator and columnist Robert Novak says.

"With nearly two years remaining in his presidency, George W. Bush is alone," writes Novak in The Washington Post. "In half a century, I have not seen a president so isolated from his own party in Congress -- not Jimmy Carter, not even Richard Nixon as he faced impeachment."

Novak considers the storm of controversy surrounding Attorney General Alberto Gonzales the latest in a series of divisive events that underscore the separation between the President and Republicans in Congress.

"Not many Republican lawmakers would speak up for Gonzales even if they were sure Bush would stick with him," Novak says. "He is the least popular Cabinet member on Capitol Hill, even more disliked than Rumsfeld was. The word most often used by Republicans to describe the management of the Justice Department under Gonzales is 'incompetent.'"

Yet Congressional Republicans "do not trust their president to protect them," writes Novak. "That alone is sufficient reason to withhold statements of support for Gonzales, because such a gesture could be quickly followed by his resignation under pressure."

He cites the case of Rep. Adam Putnam (R-FL), chair of the House Republican Conference, who "praised Donald Rumsfeld in November only to see him sacked shortly thereafter."

Novak says that "incompetent" is also being used by GOP members to desribe the Bush administration in general. "Several of them I talked to cited a trifecta of incompetence: the Walter Reed hospital scandal, the FBI's misuse of the USA Patriot Act and the U.S. attorneys firing fiasco."

He quotes a House leader as saying, "We always have claimed that we were the party of better management. How can we claim that anymore?"

"The saving grace that some Republicans find in the dispute over U.S. attorneys is that," Novak continues, "at least temporarily, it draws attention away from debate over an unpopular war."

Kevin Drum writes at Washington Monthly's 'Political Animal' that "Novak is right: the deficiencies of the Bush governing style are legion, but when all's said and done I think that the very first critique from the very first administration apostate is going to turn out to be the one that nailed the Bush presidency's core problem."

Excerpts from Novak's Washington Post column, available in full here, follow...

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But the overriding feeling in the Republican cloakroom is that the Justice Department and the White House could not have been more inept in dealing with the president's unquestioned right to appoint -- and replace -- federal prosecutors.

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A few Republicans blame incessant attacks from the new Democratic majority in Congress for that ["incompetent"] image. Many more say today's problems in the administration derive from the continuing impact of yesterday's mistakes. The answer that is not entertained by the president's most severe GOP critics, even when not speaking for quotation, is that this is just the governing style of George W. Bush and will not change while he is in the Oval Office.

Regarding Libby and Gonzales, unofficial word from the White House is not reassuring. One credible source says the president will never -- not even on the way out of office in January 2009 -- pardon Libby. Another equally good source says the president will never ask Gonzales to resign. That exactly reverses the prevailing Republican opinion in Congress. Bush is alone.
 

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I read that article in the NY Post this afternoon. Conservative (to say the least) paper and conservative columnist.

Whatever the nature of his columns, which are almost always very good, I do believe he is wired into Washington as much as any other journalist.
 

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the bush administration has the worst communication of any administration in my life-time.

very disappointing...
 

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There goes Chadman perusing leftist sites again. ...And just which liberal blog does this freedom-hater Novak write for?
 

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There goes Chadman perusing leftist sites again. ...And just which liberal blog does this freedom-hater Novak write for?

You know how hard it is for Republicans to admit something like this? They bite their teeth writing stuff like this. I think most of them have figured out what i knew when this creep and his sidekick took office. They are not even just for the rich. They are all for themselves. Probabbly about 50 to 100 of them along with the oil companies and just couldn't give a crap about the rest. They give most to the rich to keep them quiet and happy. When we finally see the real goug of gasoline prices that is in our near future you will finally see the Walmarts of the world, the airline Industries, the Home Depots finally say enough is enough because people wont have the money to buy their products. Its coming soon so get ready for it. To think this guy and his associates will leave with the best protection in the world why we all are gonna be sitting targets, is just a wonderful feeling.
 

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Need I post the poll numbers for 2004? This Novak is aiding the enemy. Someone should do something about him. The next thing you know he will be outing CIA agents or something.:SIB
 

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Probably no chance of getting elected again then :)

--Wait till you see news on NYT tomorrow--
No way out on this one --caught lying about troops red handed--Did feature article on woman soilder in Iraq getting raped twice and beaten--only prob Navy told them week before they ran story that there was no such person in Iraq--they ran it anyway--and when caught ran their typical retraction--but got their feature story in front of readers anyway--if there was one class action I'd be for it would be troops vs NYT--might stop their assault on troops since start of war--and I see this as malicious intent when they knew what they were printing was a lie.
 

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Probably no chance of getting elected again then :)

--Wait till you see news on NYT tomorrow--
No way out on this one --caught lying about troops red handed--Did feature article on woman soilder in Iraq getting raped twice and beaten--only prob Navy told them week before they ran story that there was no such person in Iraq--they ran it anyway--and when caught ran their typical retraction--but got their feature story in front of readers anyway--if there was one class action I'd be for it would be troops vs NYT--might stop their assault on troops since start of war--and I see this as malicious intent when they knew what they were printing was a lie.

Where did you cook up this conclussion Fox News? The one who has a big hard on for the NYT? I never knew the New York times hated our troops. Have they openly stated this or did Hannity and Oreilly fill you in on this?
 

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I never knew the New York times hated our troops. Have they openly stated this or did Hannity and Oreilly fill you in on this?
They openly stated it. As did 54 million Americans when they voted for Kerry. As have you on many occassions. And Buddy when he mentions that 5 troops have been killed. Or me when I say Cheney sucks balls.

These guys have their own definition of what constitutes hatred of our soldiers. ...For some weird reason, sending the military into FUBAR wars of corporate greed, bad info, and horrendous strategy DOESN'T fit into the category of hating troops - even though that's far more damaging than anything the Times or Sheehan could ever write or say.
 

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Hey........

I don't hate our soldiers. Who ever came up with that notion is beyond me.

I just think we're involved in a conflict we cannot win. ESPECIALLY with this administration. I do not trust the decision making of Bush or Cheney or any of their ilk.

I know this...

When you've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of........

quit digging!

Good news is good news ("Things are getting better").

Bad news is bad news ("Things are getting worse").

But no news is good news? ("Things are getting worse but let's not tell anyone")
 

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Hey........

I don't hate our soldiers. Who ever came up with that notion is beyond me.

I just think we're involved in a conflict we cannot win. ESPECIALLY with this administration. I do not trust the decision making of Bush or Cheney or any of their ilk.

I know this...

When you've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of........

quit digging!

Good news is good news ("Things are getting better").

Bad news is bad news ("Things are getting worse").

But no news is good news? ("Things are getting worse but let's not tell anyone")

Sorry Buddy you show all the signs of a troop hater.
 

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Sorry Buddy you show all the signs of a troop hater.
I'm afraid Sponge is right on this one. The following are staments recently made by you which clearly indicate that you are undermining the safety of our soldiers and furthering the cause of enemy propaganda:

I just think we're involved in a conflict we cannot win. ESPECIALLY with this administration. I do not trust the decision making of Bush or Cheney or any of their ilk.


When you've dug yourself a hole you can't get out of........

quit digging!

Bad news is bad news ("Things are getting worse").

But no news is good news? ("Things are getting worse but let's not tell anyone")

...and this generation sucks. .....and somebody needs to do something about the terrorists taking over our school bus driver industry.
 

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Smurph why do i feel no matter how right we can be and no matter how many republicans come on our side and realize this is a mess, the very first time there is any kind of attack we will be right back to square 1. It will be our fault.
 

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Back to the original theme of the thread, I do - at times - feel for Dubbya in the position he is now in. I have never felt he was the real maestro of this administration, from the days of "Hey, Junior, we think you should run for President. Do you wanna? It's easy, kind of like being a governor, like we made you." Clearly, in my opinion, much of what has happened during this administration has nothing to do with anything Junior could come up with, other than connections and people who put him in power. He is loyal to a fault, and his people have rewarded those who helped them get where they are. Unfortunately, those people have not done good jobs, and continue to screw up, and all that's left is to fire them or have them resign to take the pressure off of the figurehead.

In many ways, I don't blame Junior for much of what has happened. But when you are a delegator, you have to live with the people who do the stuff. And, that is where he is now...alone, because everyone around him is leaving.
 

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Where did you cook up this conclussion Fox News?


Don't really blame you for doubting--as I haven't seen it in A.P or reuters--nor CNN Cnbc ect and you probably won't--

Does it bother you get only the news some want you to--I'll continue to try an keep you informed ;)

OK maybe you still have doubts-heres another article on it and here is NYT's retraction--I know you still don't believe it :)

NYT retraction
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/25/pageoneplus/corrections.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

story again--from another source --the Iowa Voice


New York Times Gets It Wrong?Again
Sunday, March 25, 2007
But of course, they?re not pushing an agenda, right? Riiiiiight.

On March 18, the New York Times published this story about female soldiers who served in Iraq and are now having problems as a result.

One of the women mentioned in the story claims to have been sexually assaulted twice in the last few years and that she suffers severe mental problems as a result of being deployed to, and injured in, Iraq. Her story is gripping because of the vivid details given.

One problem though: she never was sent to Iraq. She was in Guam the whole time.

The NYTimes did insert a correction in the online edition today, a full week after they published this story (anyone know about the print edition at all?), but knew full well when they went to print with this article that portions of it may have been inaccurate. Where have I seen that before?

The Times contacted the Navy just three days before this story went to print, not exactly giving them time to look into it. Nevertheless, the Navy DID provide enough info to the Times to where they should have questioned this woman?s story, at least to the point of leaving her out entirely.

Of course there?s NO agenda at work here, folks. None at all.

As I said in the opening: riiiiiight.

For the record, nobody (so far) is questioning the veracity of the other women?s claims in this article. But it shows that in pursuit of a story that fits the agenda, the press is willing to believe anything a person says, as long as it advances the agenda.
 
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