Obama would raise social security income cap

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McCain, stay the course, 4 more years of war. No healthcare for you.

I like how this sounds.

Obama would raise Social Security income cap
Rejects cutting benefits or boosting retirement age.

Monday, February 25, 2008 3:27 PM
By Mark Niquette

THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
In Cincinnati today, Sen. Barack Obama discusses retirement security.


CINCINNATI ? Sen. Barack Obama said today he would not cut retirement benefits or raise the retirement age to protect Social Security but would increase the $97,500 income cap for paying payroll taxes into the system.

Obama outlined his plans for ?retirement security? today at a roundtable discussion with five residents concerned about the financial security ? some got emotional ? at the Cincinnati Museum Center at historic Union Terminal.

It was similar to the event Obama held in Columbus on Saturday on health care at the Ohio State University Medical Center.

Obama?s plan includes addressing an expected shortfall in Social Security, encouraging more Americans to save, reforming bankruptcy laws and doing more to protect worker pensions.

?We?ll have to come together to keep America?s promise, the promise that in this country, people who work hard will be able to retire with the dignity and the respect that they have earned,? Obama said.

That starts with protecting Social Security, he said. Currently, the Social Security payroll tax applies to only the first $97,500 a worker makes. Obama proposes increasing that amount but hasn?t provided specifics, saying he would work with Congress on a ?payroll-tax reform package? to keep Social Security solvent.

Blair Latoff, spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee, said, "It's utterly unsurprising that Barack Obama believes raising taxes is the solution to our Social Security problems but equally unsurprising is his inability to specify how he'd implement such a change.?

During the forum, Obama referenced a ?doughnut hole? where people would not start paying the payroll tax until their incomes reached $200,000 or $250,000.

Obama said he also would create what he calls ?Automatic Workplace Pensions,? a payroll-deduction account that employees could keep if they change jobs. He also would expand the existing Savers Credit to match 50 percent of the first $1,000 of savings for families that earn under $75,000, and he will make the tax credit refundable.

He also would eliminate income taxes for seniors making less than $50,000 and require full disclosure of company pension investments.

The Illinois senator then moved onto rally at the University of Cincinnati to speak to an enthusiastic crowd estimated at more than 11,600. Before Obama?s speech, Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory, one of Ohio Democrats? superdelegates, endorsed him.

Obama also was to attend a rally in Dayton before heading to Cleveland tonight to participate in Tuesday night?s nationally televised debate with Sen. Hillary Clinton before the March 4 primary.

Obama is expected to return to Columbus on Wednesday for a rally at OSU?s St. John Arena at 10 a.m. Doors open at 8:30 a.m. for the event for Obama, who has been drawing overflow crowds at his other stops in Ohio.
 

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Sen. Barack Obama said today he would not cut retirement benefits or raise the retirement age to protect Social Security but would increase the $97,500 income cap for paying payroll taxes into the system.

Remember that the federal government does not actually generate revenue. So how do we pay for this plan? Oh yeah. Tax the rich.

Atlas Shrugged -- read it.

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You do realize that Atlas Shrugged is a work of FICTION, right?

A great read, makes you think a bit, but its still a work of FICTION...

Everything is fiction. Things can only be based on actual events.

Yes, I do realize this. I guess that means you can't learn from it.

You're right. Keep stealing from the rich and give to the unproductive. It's a great recipe for a successful entity.

Relate this concept to your work place. How would that work out for you (and I will give the assumption that everyone here would be in the "productive" group)?

We do not need more federgal government intervention. The thing that I really don't understand is that it seems to be the same people that are against items like the Patriot Act (certainly has its lesser qualities) due to infringement on "rights" of privacy, but they are for the government controlling everything they do.

I just don't get it.
 

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The total package is not all that bad. Easy to pick on one part. And the 97000 cap aways was to low. That came about with a compromise with Reagan and the Senate at that time. They new if they didn't go to at least 135000 at that time. And the Gov would keep it's hands off the S/S fund. They would be back having to fix it again. Here we are. Just last 8 years the fund has been robbed of a trillion.
 

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Everything is fiction. Things can only be based on actual events.

Yes, I do realize this. I guess that means you can't learn from it.

You're right. Keep stealing from the rich and give to the unproductive. It's a great recipe for a successful entity.

Relate this concept to your work place. How would that work out for you (and I will give the assumption that everyone here would be in the "productive" group)?

We do not need more federgal government intervention. The thing that I really don't understand is that it seems to be the same people that are against items like the Patriot Act (certainly has its lesser qualities) due to infringement on "rights" of privacy, but they are for the government controlling everything they do.

I just don't get it.

Huh? Can you point me to the secret decoder ring that allows me to make any sense of this?
If you want to spout the virtues of Ayn Rand's works, why not point them in the direction of her NON-FICTION writings.

http://www.aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=objectivism_intro

She believes in laissez-faire capitalism; many, including myself; do not.

yes, I believe you can learn from her writings, just as I think you can learn from the writings of Marx. Doesn't mean you have to agree with either of them.
 

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The total package is not all that bad. Easy to pick on one part. And the 97000 cap aways was to low. That came about with a compromise with Reagan and the Senate at that time. They new if they didn't go to at least 135000 at that time. And the Gov would keep it's hands off the S/S fund. They would be back having to fix it again. Here we are. Just last 8 years the fund has been robbed of a trillion.

I'd certainly hope that before they go raising the cap on the SS taxable income they go ahead and do something about the Alternative Minimum Tax then too.
 

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Marine I agree 100%. I also ThinkThey need some smart people to work out of sight on a middle of the road that can do the most good for, if not all. As close as they can get. And reason I say out of sight. So special interest groups can't sway out come. One can hope. We need tax work done and S/S. And budgets that take care of our military and roads and schools.
 

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And budgets that take care of our military and roads and schools.

This has been my stance for some time, but for some strange reason lately I have left education off of my list. My recent thoughts have been leaning towards education being handled on a state level. I'm not saying there aren't a ton of holes in this concept, but my brain can not think of anything except removing the federal government from as many things as possible.

Defense & Roads.

I'll probably be swaying on this one for a while.
 
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