Obamas plan to destroy America

Duff Miver

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My, my my. Look at how the four morons above think - that immigrants will destroy our country.

They are too ignorant to know that this young country was founded entirely BY immigrants, many of whom were poor, uneducated and did not speak English..In fact you can go to North Dakota today and find towns where the most common languages are German, Norwegian and Swedish, not English. Newspapers and radio stations are in those "foreign" languages too. Well, guess what - those ND folks with the funny names and accents pump more oil and grow more food than any redneck bigot state.

And in large sections of Boston and Chicago you'll hear more Italian than English. In Miami the most common language is Spanish. In large sections of New York, you'll hear Chinese everywhere, and French is common in New Orleans.

Any many of the immigrants who built this country came in illegally. My own grandfather walked in from Canada, and it took forty years for him to become a citizen. In the meantime he raised five sons, four of whom served honorably in WWII, one of them is buried where he fell in Germany defending this country. Grandpa worked seven day weeks as a carpenter, paid his taxes, and all five of his sons worked and paid taxes.

Next week I'll be having heart surgery, and I've chosen the best cardiothoracic surgeon available. He immigrated here from Viet Nam.

It's the diversity that gives our country it's strength. The diversity of folks who came with no promises except to be free and go as far as their skill and effort would take them.

And then you have assholes like Raymond, Hedge, Skulnutz and Rock who never have and never will amount to a pile of stinking horse shit.

THEY are the ones we should throw out. I'll take a Hispanic seeking a chance over an ignorant redneck any day.


"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


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And, by the way, she's FRENCH
 

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My, my my. Look at how the four morons above think - that immigrants will destroy our country.

They are too ignorant to know that this young country was founded entirely BY immigrants, many of whom were poor, uneducated and did not speak English..In fact you can go to North Dakota today and find towns where the most common languages are German, Norwegian and Swedish, not English. Newspapers and radio stations are in those "foreign" languages too. Well, guess what - those ND folks with the funny names and accents pump more oil and grow more food than any redneck bigot state.

And in large sections of Boston and Chicago you'll hear more Italian than English. In Miami the most common language is Spanish. In large sections of New York, you'll hear Chinese everywhere, and French is common in New Orleans.

Any many of the immigrants who built this country came in illegally. My own grandfather walked in from Canada, and it took forty years for him to become a citizen. In the meantime he raised five sons, four of whom served honorably in WWII, one of them is buried where he fell in Germany defending this country. Grandpa worked seven day weeks as a carpenter, paid his taxes, and all five of his sons worked and paid taxes.

Next week I'll be having heart surgery, and I've chosen the best cardiothoracic surgeon available. He immigrated here from Viet Nam.

It's the diversity that gives our country it's strength. The diversity of folks who came with no promises except to be free and go as far as their skill and effort would take them.

And then you have assholes like Raymond, Hedge, Skulnutz and Rock who never have and never will amount to a pile of stinking horse shit.

THEY are the ones we should throw out. I'll take a Hispanic seeking a chance over an ignorant redneck any day.


"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


Statue+of+Liberty.JPG


And, by the way, she's FRENCH

Duff.... I replied to your thinking in another thread but maybe you didn't see it..

I'm all for immigrants.. Hell I married one. But the difference with my wife, your grandfather and my great grandfather is they weren't given free lodging and unlimited food stamps when they stepped off the boat. (figure of speech KOD) Your grandfather is a perfect example. He worked hard, he assimilated, he made a better living for himself and his family. The American dream in action.

Was the country shaped by immigrants.. Hell yes.. but correct me if I am wrong when the words on the statue of liberty were written there was no welfare program in place. The immigrants that came to this country were expected to WORK if they wanted to flourish.. They may not have spoken English but at least they had skills. Bakers, tailors, farmers, masonries, CARPENTERS etc.. The people flooding the boarders have no discernible skills. What the hell are a million single mothers and children, most illiterate in their native language much less English, going to contribute besides draining the economy??

Most will contribute nothing? Why the fuck would they? They are being handed everything... They literally will want for nothing.. Food, water, housing, phones and Univision on cable TV... So what the hell will their incentive be to do anything but to sit on their ass and collect a govt check. Why would anyone do otherwise?

To me this is not a race or cultural issue. This is an economic issue. We already have over half the country on govt assistance and that number is growing by the day. 4 billion dollars to send aid to the boarders? If we had 4 billion dollars laying around why didn't we use that to help the poorest people of this country? And that is just the beginning.

Im sorry that there are poor people in other countries.. But where does it end? Take in all the peoples of South America not just Honduras? All the poor people in Africa? The poor Christians being beheaded in the middle east? I mean the list will literally never end. My wife and I visit family in Colombia every year and I have seen what real poverty looks like. Its awful and heart breaking to see.. But there are also people in Colombia with much wealth and power.. Let these people fix their own damn countries.

And its not these few hundred thousand that concern me.. Think long term. If we let these people stay all that will do is let the entire world know our boarders are open.. They will keep coming, coming and coming until the life boat is full.. Then what?

NO other country has an open boarder policy even leftist France.. Because the rest of the world knows its a busted model and not sustainable..
 
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Most will contribute nothing? Why the fuck would they? They are being handed everything... They literally will want for nothing.. Food, water, housing, phones and Univision on cable TV... So what the hell will their incentive be to do anything but to sit on their ass and collect a govt check. Why would anyone do otherwise?

You see, that's your mistake. Yes, they do get some help, but just enough to stay alive. What you seem to say is that SNAP food is enough for a family to survive. Really? Let's see you do it.

Free Housing? Is it anything like where you live?

Medical care? Temporary help at an Emergency room, maybe, but no regular medical, dental or eye care.

I see these folks, mostly Hispanic, every day, and I see them working, taking care of their children and trying to pull themselves up by their bootstraps. Stop by your local unemployment office and count the number of "foreigners". Do the same at your local soup kitchen.

If you can't see the value these immigrants bring, then you're just plain blind.

Open your eyes, man. Read the police reports in your local paper. I do, and I can tell you for every "foreigner" arrested on child abuse, drugs, armed robbery, burglary and weapons charges, there are 20 or fifty "good ole 'mericans".

I've hired hundreds of employees over the years in manufacturing businesses. And I'll take Juan Valdez over Bubba Hatfield or Roosevelt Washington every time.

And, by the way, if you think the government did nothing for immigrants in the past, check this out: Great-grandpa on my mother's side, an immigrant from Norway, was given, free and clear, outright, 160 acres of prime SD farm land. It was called the Homestead Act. You can look it up. Adjusted for inflation from 1883, what do you think THAT was worth?

I'll give you a clue: you couldn't buy it today for $5000/acre. A freebee for an immigrant, who was not a citizen until years later.
 
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Politics aside Duff, I hope your heart surgery goes well next week :0008
 
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