Just giving you another perspective
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Been Thinking About Carolina VS Denver Scenario's During The Game
Any chance at all that Osweiler gets playing time in this one? Reason why I ask... because if Manning comes out throwing this short junk... Carolina's D will be all over it. In fact, just throwing some estimations... what if Carolina is winning by 14 or 17 at the half? Would Osweiler get playing time? What would the 2nd half line be?
Denver +1.5 or +0.5
Carolina -1.5 or -0.5??
Would you take Denver 2nd half if the announcers told you Osweiler would start 2nd half?
If Kubiak thinks Manning can handle the entire game... he has to be dreaming.
Honestly... I think Osweiler has a better chance at winning this game than Manning.
Only reason why Tom Brady lost to Denver... he was one dimensional. And even then... Denver still got lucky. Now Denver has to face Cam Newton who is super explosive.
I'm just suggesting to some posters... if this game isn't rigged... you should see Carolina up by 14-17 at the half. I'd be ready to take Denver 2nd Half.... if there's a QB change.
answers to thread
not for nothing.. but I think New England got lucky.. You forget 6 points that were on the board should of never happened.
Denver's first turnover on the 20 yard line was a fluke after they had just marched down the field..
Think they ride with Peyton hell or high water it's his last game. Only scenario I see him getting pulled is if it's just ugly helpless bad down 34-6 in 4th.
Osweiler would be like a "deer caught in the headlights" in this huge game. Denver backers better hope it doesn't come to that (imo). You can't extrapolate play in the NFL's largely mediocre regular season games to the huge pressure generated in the Super Bowl. That young gun doesn't have enough experience to deal with a solid defense like Carolina's. Denver will sink or swim on the heels of Peyton's play.
Did Manning get "pulled" in that shellacking against the Seahawks? That was a mercy killing. I am hoping for that type of game so Peyton can take his rightful place next to one time super bowl winning quarterbacks like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer.
Dude Denver is covering the game I don't know if they'll win probably but definitely cover
I agree think Denver gets this and "somehow" Manning rides off in glory most with thanks to the defense once again. Ironic he never had much of a D before and had to carry those teams now roles reversed lol. Think only way possible he gets pulled would be a "mercy" thing if script is not working out he has few picks , been sacked 6x, out their hobbling and Donks down big they give him the hook to save a little face.
the more i think about this game the more i like Denver.
but it must be said this depends on Peyton being able to play
at least 50% better than last week. I think he was kind of strapped in
at times. It seemed like maybe he wasn't making the calls. He needs
complete flexibility. This is his last rodeo he is the sheriff.
The only way Denver stays in the game is if CJ Anderson gets going. This isn't a fairy tale and Manning isn't stupid , he will play it close to the vest and let the running game and defense try to win it. I'm sure studying tape for 2 weeks straight will give him an idea of where the soft spots are and give him some safe throws to make via play action , motion , and stacking but think if he only has to throw 20-25 times that would be ideal.
Could see this being a very boring field position game. Like 7-3 at the half and 21-13 game. If Denver gets behind early by a couple TDs then it could get ugly. Manning having to get chunks of yards to catch up is a recipe for disaster vs this D.
Carolina has been superior to everyone all year while Denver had to win a dogfight at home vs 4-12 SD in the season finale or they probably aren't even here. I think Carolina wins but lowish scoring for them so if the line keeps climbing it's a risky bet. I took them at -5. Jealous of the people that had the foresight to grab the -3.
Peyton Manning would have to be hurt to come out - realistically, he is playing in his last game and I think he gets his shot. The warm temperatures will help and I think it will add to his health and his "fastball" so to speak. I am more interested in how many points can the Broncos score? The cannot get in a shootout and the Denver defense has to hold the score down. The under seems to correlate to Denver and Carolina and over correlates in my mind. But, who knows - amazing that we have two teams that fought to get in the Super Bowl and nobody thinks Denver has a chance.
I could see the read option tearing up Ware and Von, just like RG3 tore up damarcus ware in the NFCE division title game circa 2012. If those OLBs of Denver go to tee off like they did against Brady they might have some trouble
NEW THREAD
Denver +190!!! Do you remember those famous words from Pat Bowlen as>
"THIS ONE'S FOR JOHN!!!"?
As You know, Elway played a "minor" role in that victory.
So without further adieu I'll repeat those famous words.
"THIS ONE'S FOR PEYTON!!!"
1.The best Defense wins championships every time
2.Manning will be fed minimum responsibility (you can't choke up what you don't eat)
3.And last but not least.
Manning will retire after this big dance..
Hint:
Think Ray Lewis/Jerome Bettis.
Denver ML +190
Is without a doubt
FUKK YOU MONEY!!
Tell'em Charlie sent ya
Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 01-26-16 at 04:44 PM.
responses
I agree!
Sounds about right to me Pauly.
The best Defense won last year
Ohh wait
Money down the toilet.. This is going to look real foolish when the Panthers win by 30
Hope you are right...as fan of course.
Don't think Manning will be doing something like this.
Video of elway helicopter flip into endzone
https://youtu.be/P4wEoMl9BOE
This defense is absolutely elite level for Denver. They stopped pats twice on 4th down in final minutes and almost stopped them third time if not a miracle catch by gronk. Basically have been on the field the whole time at the end of 4th quarter and still held them off. I think Denver wins the Superbowl.
Originally Posted by Pick9 View Post
This defense is absolutely elite level for Denver. They stopped pats twice on 4th down in final minutes and almost stopped them third time if not a miracle catch by gronk. Basically have been on the field the whole time at the end of 4th quarter and still held them off. I think Denver wins the Superbowl.
Its not that hard to stop a one dimensional offense. not impressed. :00hour
Carolina's defense has only given up 17 more points, and think of all the games they've cruised to the finish letting teams back into it.
If the Panthers can get to Russell and Palmer, they can get to Peyton (Think OAK or KC games).
Also, Carolina can run up the middle and it will take pressure from the ends rushing. Though Cam can run it himself.
Take Thomas out of the equation with Norman on him, I think CAR is a lock; as long as Ed Hochuli isn't the head linesman.
Have you even seen the Carolina defense play?
No way Peyton Mallard beats this Panthers Defense. Those wounded ducks are getting returned for TD'S by Luke Kuechly and Co
NE was a 3pt favorite and came within a 2pt conversion from going into ot. Carolina was a 3pt favorite and won by 90...stop making it out that Denver win was so amazing. They were a 3 pt dog and won by 2. The Denver qb is 20 percent of what he used to be...the Carolina qb is 8x better n the mvp. People in this thread make it seem like Denver was a 10 point dog at new England and won by 20. 17 and one Carolina team is real and only a cam meltdown gives Denver a chance.
Also history has shown new England has been the facs to win it all many times and don't get it done. How many super bowls has Brady won in last ten yrs. Stop over rating broncos. If new englands healthy..had a rb..and we're home..they would of beaten Denver by 17. Also Seattle defense better then broncos and how did they do vs csrolina...if qb wasn't Peyton choker line would be 7
:shrug:
Peyton and the Broncos "NOT" reporting the Manning injury last year in the Indy playoff game will be why the league allows the Broncos to win. That game was fixed and so is this one! No need to cap this one.I have seen this scenario before and rarely am I wrong on these. GL
:142smilie
I don't know if you put stock in the PFF o-line rankings, but they have they have NE #25, DEN #20 and CAR #2.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...s-this-season/
The story with DEN and NE was both losing their LT for the year and going with smoke and mirrors after that.
:00x32
from another thread
the line doesn't mean shit on this game... Pants either blow em out by 2td or lose the game outright teasers won't save you unless you r on the right side.. then again you don'e need them anyways.... again this is my humble betting experience thought... after all these years
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Been Thinking About Carolina VS Denver Scenario's During The Game
Any chance at all that Osweiler gets playing time in this one? Reason why I ask... because if Manning comes out throwing this short junk... Carolina's D will be all over it. In fact, just throwing some estimations... what if Carolina is winning by 14 or 17 at the half? Would Osweiler get playing time? What would the 2nd half line be?
Denver +1.5 or +0.5
Carolina -1.5 or -0.5??
Would you take Denver 2nd half if the announcers told you Osweiler would start 2nd half?
If Kubiak thinks Manning can handle the entire game... he has to be dreaming.
Honestly... I think Osweiler has a better chance at winning this game than Manning.
Only reason why Tom Brady lost to Denver... he was one dimensional. And even then... Denver still got lucky. Now Denver has to face Cam Newton who is super explosive.
I'm just suggesting to some posters... if this game isn't rigged... you should see Carolina up by 14-17 at the half. I'd be ready to take Denver 2nd Half.... if there's a QB change.
answers to thread
not for nothing.. but I think New England got lucky.. You forget 6 points that were on the board should of never happened.
Denver's first turnover on the 20 yard line was a fluke after they had just marched down the field..
Think they ride with Peyton hell or high water it's his last game. Only scenario I see him getting pulled is if it's just ugly helpless bad down 34-6 in 4th.
Osweiler would be like a "deer caught in the headlights" in this huge game. Denver backers better hope it doesn't come to that (imo). You can't extrapolate play in the NFL's largely mediocre regular season games to the huge pressure generated in the Super Bowl. That young gun doesn't have enough experience to deal with a solid defense like Carolina's. Denver will sink or swim on the heels of Peyton's play.
Did Manning get "pulled" in that shellacking against the Seahawks? That was a mercy killing. I am hoping for that type of game so Peyton can take his rightful place next to one time super bowl winning quarterbacks like Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer.
Dude Denver is covering the game I don't know if they'll win probably but definitely cover
I agree think Denver gets this and "somehow" Manning rides off in glory most with thanks to the defense once again. Ironic he never had much of a D before and had to carry those teams now roles reversed lol. Think only way possible he gets pulled would be a "mercy" thing if script is not working out he has few picks , been sacked 6x, out their hobbling and Donks down big they give him the hook to save a little face.
the more i think about this game the more i like Denver.
but it must be said this depends on Peyton being able to play
at least 50% better than last week. I think he was kind of strapped in
at times. It seemed like maybe he wasn't making the calls. He needs
complete flexibility. This is his last rodeo he is the sheriff.
The only way Denver stays in the game is if CJ Anderson gets going. This isn't a fairy tale and Manning isn't stupid , he will play it close to the vest and let the running game and defense try to win it. I'm sure studying tape for 2 weeks straight will give him an idea of where the soft spots are and give him some safe throws to make via play action , motion , and stacking but think if he only has to throw 20-25 times that would be ideal.
Could see this being a very boring field position game. Like 7-3 at the half and 21-13 game. If Denver gets behind early by a couple TDs then it could get ugly. Manning having to get chunks of yards to catch up is a recipe for disaster vs this D.
Carolina has been superior to everyone all year while Denver had to win a dogfight at home vs 4-12 SD in the season finale or they probably aren't even here. I think Carolina wins but lowish scoring for them so if the line keeps climbing it's a risky bet. I took them at -5. Jealous of the people that had the foresight to grab the -3.
Peyton Manning would have to be hurt to come out - realistically, he is playing in his last game and I think he gets his shot. The warm temperatures will help and I think it will add to his health and his "fastball" so to speak. I am more interested in how many points can the Broncos score? The cannot get in a shootout and the Denver defense has to hold the score down. The under seems to correlate to Denver and Carolina and over correlates in my mind. But, who knows - amazing that we have two teams that fought to get in the Super Bowl and nobody thinks Denver has a chance.
I could see the read option tearing up Ware and Von, just like RG3 tore up damarcus ware in the NFCE division title game circa 2012. If those OLBs of Denver go to tee off like they did against Brady they might have some trouble
NEW THREAD
Denver +190!!! Do you remember those famous words from Pat Bowlen as>
"THIS ONE'S FOR JOHN!!!"?
As You know, Elway played a "minor" role in that victory.
So without further adieu I'll repeat those famous words.
"THIS ONE'S FOR PEYTON!!!"
1.The best Defense wins championships every time
2.Manning will be fed minimum responsibility (you can't choke up what you don't eat)
3.And last but not least.
Manning will retire after this big dance..
Hint:
Think Ray Lewis/Jerome Bettis.
Denver ML +190
Is without a doubt
FUKK YOU MONEY!!
Tell'em Charlie sent ya
Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 01-26-16 at 04:44 PM.
responses
I agree!
Sounds about right to me Pauly.
The best Defense won last year
Ohh wait
Money down the toilet.. This is going to look real foolish when the Panthers win by 30
Hope you are right...as fan of course.
Don't think Manning will be doing something like this.
Video of elway helicopter flip into endzone
https://youtu.be/P4wEoMl9BOE
This defense is absolutely elite level for Denver. They stopped pats twice on 4th down in final minutes and almost stopped them third time if not a miracle catch by gronk. Basically have been on the field the whole time at the end of 4th quarter and still held them off. I think Denver wins the Superbowl.
Originally Posted by Pick9 View Post
This defense is absolutely elite level for Denver. They stopped pats twice on 4th down in final minutes and almost stopped them third time if not a miracle catch by gronk. Basically have been on the field the whole time at the end of 4th quarter and still held them off. I think Denver wins the Superbowl.
Its not that hard to stop a one dimensional offense. not impressed. :00hour
Carolina's defense has only given up 17 more points, and think of all the games they've cruised to the finish letting teams back into it.
If the Panthers can get to Russell and Palmer, they can get to Peyton (Think OAK or KC games).
Also, Carolina can run up the middle and it will take pressure from the ends rushing. Though Cam can run it himself.
Take Thomas out of the equation with Norman on him, I think CAR is a lock; as long as Ed Hochuli isn't the head linesman.
Have you even seen the Carolina defense play?
No way Peyton Mallard beats this Panthers Defense. Those wounded ducks are getting returned for TD'S by Luke Kuechly and Co
NE was a 3pt favorite and came within a 2pt conversion from going into ot. Carolina was a 3pt favorite and won by 90...stop making it out that Denver win was so amazing. They were a 3 pt dog and won by 2. The Denver qb is 20 percent of what he used to be...the Carolina qb is 8x better n the mvp. People in this thread make it seem like Denver was a 10 point dog at new England and won by 20. 17 and one Carolina team is real and only a cam meltdown gives Denver a chance.
Also history has shown new England has been the facs to win it all many times and don't get it done. How many super bowls has Brady won in last ten yrs. Stop over rating broncos. If new englands healthy..had a rb..and we're home..they would of beaten Denver by 17. Also Seattle defense better then broncos and how did they do vs csrolina...if qb wasn't Peyton choker line would be 7
:shrug:
Peyton and the Broncos "NOT" reporting the Manning injury last year in the Indy playoff game will be why the league allows the Broncos to win. That game was fixed and so is this one! No need to cap this one.I have seen this scenario before and rarely am I wrong on these. GL
:142smilie
I don't know if you put stock in the PFF o-line rankings, but they have they have NE #25, DEN #20 and CAR #2.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...s-this-season/
The story with DEN and NE was both losing their LT for the year and going with smoke and mirrors after that.
:00x32
from another thread
the line doesn't mean shit on this game... Pants either blow em out by 2td or lose the game outright teasers won't save you unless you r on the right side.. then again you don'e need them anyways.... again this is my humble betting experience thought... after all these years
