Op-Ed Piece on Fixing the Healthcare Mess

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I'm not advocating anything by posting this, just putting it out there. I honestly have no strong opinion on the matter, other than I really want to see attention paid to this matter that is gobbling up HUGE amounts of money for individuals and businesses in this country - and making the cost of doing business prohibitive in many cases. The time is now to prevent the kind of $$ increases we have faced since 2000 (81%!) - C.

Going universal

The American healthcare system is, simply put, a mess, but we may finally be ready to fix it.
By Ezra Klein

December 26, 2006

THE STATISTICS, by now, are well known. Forty-seven million uninsured Americans. Premium increases of 81% since 2000. Small businesses failing, big businesses foundering, individuals priced out and, amid all this, skyrocketing profits for insurers, hospitals and pharmaceutical manufacturers.

The American health system, put simply, is a mess. An expensive one. Indeed, in 2002, we spent $5,267 per capita on healthcare ? $1,821 more than Switzerland, the nearest runner-up. And yet we had higher infant mortality, lower life expectancy, more price inflation and an actual uninsured population, a phenomenon virtually unknown in the rest of the developed world, where universal healthcare is, well, universal.

These are unsustainable trends. The U.S. healthcare system cannot, in its current form, go on forever, or even for very much longer ? employers can't afford it, individuals can't handle it and the country's conscience won't countenance it.

And change may come sooner than most think. Across the country there are unmistakable signs that the gridlock and confusion sustaining our sadly outdated system are coming to an end and that real reform may finally emerge, possibly even starting in California, where Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger is promising to spend his upcoming State of the State speech explaining how he will push the Golden State closer to universal healthcare in the coming year.

And it's about time. Few mention this, but the American healthcare system is something of a mistake. It blossomed out of a World War II tax reform meant to guard against corporate war profiteering. Liberals, with their usual combination of good intentions and inadequate foresight, imposed massive marginal tax rates on corporations, effectively freezing their profits at prewar levels. But the law had a loophole: Corporations could funnel their wartime riches into employee benefits, such as healthcare, thus putting the cash to use within their company. And so they did, creating the employer-based healthcare system.

But healthcare was simpler in the 1940s, and far less expensive. In the 21st century, it's not simple at all. Once a perk of employment, health insurance is now a necessity, and a structure that dumps such power, complexity and cost in the laps of employers is grotesquely unfair to both businesses and individuals. There's no logic to an auto manufacturer running a multibillion-dollar health insurance plan on the side; it should stick to making cars. There's no excuse for pricing the self-employed and entrepreneurial out of the market. And there's no reason the owner of a three-employee start-up should have to go to bed with a heavy conscience because his coffee shop can't pay for chemotherapy.

But health insurance is not only the inexplicable responsibility of business; it is a big business, which is why the system survives. The medical-industrial complex is a massive, remarkable beast, consuming a full one-ninth of the American economy and offering astonishing profits to many of the participants (indeed, Big Pharma was the most profitable industry in the U.S. from the 1980s until 2003, when energy companies wrested away the top spot). As with any lucrative industry, the winners are resistant to reforms, and they have a formidable army of politically lobbyists, PR specialists and image consultants helping to preserve their position, to preserve a mistake.

But there is evidence, finally, that their castle is being stormed. Massachusetts has passed the nation's first near-universal healthcare plan, creating a structure that should cover 95%-plus of its citizens by making healthcare as mandatory as car insurance. Nationally, the Democratic resurgence has returned universal healthcare to the agenda and its advocates to power. In the House, Rep. Pete Stark (D-Fremont), a staunch Medicare-for-all advocate, is expected to be chairman of the health subcommittee.

Surrounded by an unlikely array of union leaders and corporate chief executives, Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.) has unveiled an inventive, comprehensive reform plan that would end the employer system forever. What businesses pay in employee premiums would be redirected to employee raises; insurers would offer their plans through state associations that would no longer allow price discrimination for reasons of health or job status; and everyone would have to buy in. Universal coverage would be achieved in under two years.

The most compelling evidence that resistance to reform is futile, however, is coming from the insurers themselves. Cognizant that Congress and the nation are tiring of the current dystopia, the insurance industry recently released its own plan for universal healthcare.

It's a bad plan, to be sure. Its purpose is more to preserve the insurance industry's profits than improve healthcare in this country. But the endorsement of universality as a moral imperative, and the attempt to get in front of the coming efforts at reform, mark the emergence of a distinct rear-guard mentality within the insurance industry. Their game is up, and they're turning some of their attention to shaping their future rather than betting that they can continue protecting their present.

SOME OF THE industry's more enlightened members are going even further. In California, the heads of Kaiser Permanente ? a historical "good cop" insurer amid the almost cartoonish villainy of the industry ? have proposed a serious, albeit extraordinarily complicated, plan for achieving universal coverage in the Golden State. The details of the plan are unimportant; it's the constructiveness of the proposal that matters.

And joining them in calling for reform is Schwarzenegger, who recently seized on a report by the New America Foundation showing that cost-shifting caused by the uninsured population costs each family in the state the equivalent of $1,186 in annual premiums. His plans for reform will be announced at the State of the State address Jan. 9.

The work is not done, of course. There are arguments yet to be had, wars yet to be fought.

Insurers want to retain their ability to discriminate against the ill and the old; conservatives want individuals to assume more risk and expense in order to force wiser health decisions; liberals want the government to guarantee universality and utilize its massive market power to bargain prices down to levels approximating those paid by other developed countries.

What's important, though, is that for the first time since the early years of the Clinton administration, these arguments are being made, and employers, insurers, politicians and, most crucially, voters are making their way back to the table.

The realization that our illogical, mistaken healthcare system can't go on forever has dawned, and so it will end. The question now is what replaces it.
 

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it is a mess as a whole.

The biggest problem now, imho is in the long-term-care/nursing home areas. Those places can just not go on running the way they are now. Horribly understaffed on routine, terrible pay wages for employees, backbreaking work, and nobody wants to work there when other options are available.

A common nurse to patient ratio now on day and evening shift is 1-40. A common nursing assistant ratio on the day shift is 1-20. Night shift, those numbers even get larger. Even superman could not care for that many residents. It's a horrible, sad situation, and it's a real crisis. I have a feeling that in about 10-20 years there will be no nursing homes. I'm not sure where those who need that type of care will go.
 

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I think it's telling that we can post a thread about Bush, Clinton or whomever sucking for whatever reason, and we windmill into a 50 post thread, but something as important as this really doesn't generate conversation. People complain, but little is clear. I'd like to hear from insurance people, doctors (Freeze, etc.), business owners, individuals, what they think. The right screams about a National healthcare scenario citing it as an entitlement plan and care will suffer. The left screams we gotta cover everyone for their own good and to help bring costs down.

I'm not sure how to blame the individual in this mess. The poor simply have to make choices to eat/live, etc., and not carry insurance. Yes, they could work harder in theory, but when costs essentially double in less than 10 years, what do they do in reality? And when they don't carry insurance, everyone else suffers by paying for it. The insurance companies certainly aren't hurting. Insurance companies nickle and dime the individual over claims, and are making a mint these days. The hospitals seem to have more money than they know what to do with, continuing to build more and more facilities and charging us all out the arse, hitting both the individual and the insurance companies for big $$. Big Pharma is out of control with what they charge for medicine, and grow bigger and bigger. They spiff doctors to use their products whcih benefits both sides. Certain attorneys and law firms chase ambulances and try to recover exhorbitant awards whether real or not. Doctors make a pretty darn good living, and charge plenty for what they do. They in turn pay more money to insurance companies (again) for high malpractice protection. Nurses and educated medical personnel make a lot of money.

This is a basic, simplistic look at the situation. If we don't do something that addresses things from all angles, all incomes, pretty soon, we just will get eaten alive.

I don't remember how medical costs react during different administrations. I don't know if they were rising less or more under Clinton, Bush I, etc. We do know the numbers under Bush 2 from this story, and that picture sucks.

Anyone else care to comment?
 

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My opinion--there is no single cause--will elaborate on insurance aspect--I mention revamping way commissions has been implemented by many compainies to reduce cost--could gripe about that--however can't say we weren't over paid to begin with--however would make it very tough on new person trying to start out in business--as it is now if I had to start over would concentrate on P&C aspect of ins.

As far as gouging I certainly don't see it. Generally groups I have with ave risk rating(claim experience) get around 8 to 12% increase--those with good risk experience around 5% and very poor rating sometimes as high as 20%.

On reason often over looked for increases in doctors and hospital cost it what refer to as cost shifting. People that have coverage paying for those that don't and have claims written off per being indigent.

People from 55 to 64 have my sympathy as their cost is often as high as their mortage payment--ages 0-to 29 is a diff story.They can get good coverage for bout same price as monthly cable bill but many opt for the cable instead.

I don't see any solutions Chad and politicians that run their campaign with promises to fix it are blowing smoke in my view.Rebs and dems equally quilty.

However if you think its bad now--wait if they push through national health care--you will see cost shifting in spades and tack on cost of gov paperwork inefficiency.

--just my opinion.
 

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i read Donald Trump and Robert Kiyosaki's new book "why we want you to be rich", and they say medicare's obligations to the american public are over 76 trillion. that is more than all the money in the stock and bond markets in the world. Politicians suck so much at financial stuff its ridiculous. They just shove problems into the future so someone else has to deal with them, snowballing them and transforming tiny problems into huge headaches.
 

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Chad Forgot maybe the prime reason for cost increase. In past years Dr's have been forced to run many test many deem not necessary to cover their ass against lawsuits. Expensive tests such as MRI's- CAT scans-PET scans ect have increased dramtically.

Most of the costs of these tests have been passed on to consumers by insurance co- as generally are not included in office co-pays but revert to 80-20 after deductible in most cases.
 

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cumulative price of the drug Herceptin for breast cancer: $40,000-$100,000

how exactly do you solve this problem while

1. drug companies are being sued left and right

2. drug companies rely on large profits to fund further treatments/innovation
 

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I'm not sure how to address that problem, Freeze, but I'm sure a kind of supply and demand concept needs to be considered with the medical profession, doesn't it? I really don't know what I am talking about, just interested in ideas, and I know you are in the middle of it. I sense immediate resistance from Dogs regarding insurance responsibility (he explained his position well, to be sure) and lawyers, and you regarding the price of medicine being somewhat valid - blaming lawyers, etc. Certainly not saying those aren't valid points, I'm sure they are in many respects.

Everyone blames everyone else, and the prices continue to blast skyward. Maybe we have to look at "taking" some of the benefit, or dollars, away from each of the players in the game somehow. Companies are already looking at ways to get out from under insurance benefits to employees. Maybe personal savings accounts are a way to look, although this then becomes a financial boon to others, and the poor still can't make it work easily, which will continue to hit the rest of us harder. Maybe mandatory insurance is the way to go, although pitfalls with that to hear many tell it. Government programs are always resisted/supported.

It just seems to me that when the price of a breast cancer drug equals the price of a home, we have to try to figure something out.
 

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It never will be fixed with out the 45 million that have no insurance. They say that alone cost all of us with insurance 400 to 500 a extra a year. They can tie insurance in to the medicare program. With each of us getting are own private insurance to cover what medicare does not cover. They would need to teak medicare to give Doc's more freedom to treat there patients. And that would stop it from being a so called national plan. And if you think big business would be against this. Think again. It would save them big bucks. Then all legal actions should be capped at 500000 after expenses. Unless you have a case where a Doc is just a sad case for a Doc. And hospital knows it. After about his third screw up the 500000 is waved.
 

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I think i have a good idea. Your force the pharmaceuticals to create an anti greed pill. So they don't get sued you tell them to try and make it right and this will prevent people from suing. Then you take these pills and call them gods pills. You create a law where the doctor, hospital, pharmaceuticals, and the dirty insurance companies all have to take them. This will solve everything. the insurance company stops trying to screw the doctor. the doctor turns around and stops screwing the insurance companies because the insurance company started on them first. The hospitals and their CEO's who make a couple mill a year now have a conscience as well as the pharmaceuticals. Wallah no more greed. Unfortunately this country runs on greed so forget about my idea.
Bottom line if people keep electing these same pigs over and over again then this will never change. So nobody has anybody to blame but themselves. I have to hand it to the Arniold tho. At least he is trying to succedd were many never go. Hydrogen cars, healthcare? Got to love him
 

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Interesting story from India regarding cheaper drugs (so to speak...)


Scientists find way to slash cost of drugs


Indian-backed approach could aid poor nations and cut NHS bills

Sarah Boseley, health editor
Tuesday January 2, 2007
The Guardian


Two UK-based academics have devised a way to invent new medicines and get them to market at a fraction of the cost charged by big drug companies, enabling millions in poor countries to be cured of infectious diseases and potentially slashing the NHS drugs bill.

Sunil Shaunak, professor of infectious diseases at Imperial College, based at Hammersmith hospital, calls their revolutionary new model "ethical pharmaceuticals".

Improvements they devise to the molecular structure of an existing, expensive drug turn it technically into a new medicine which is no longer under a 20-year patent to a multinational drug company and can be made and sold cheaply.

The process has the potential to undermine the monopoly of the big drug companies and bring cheaper drugs not only to poor countries but back to the UK.

Professor Shaunak and his colleague from the London School of Pharmacy, Steve Brocchini, have linked up with an Indian biotech company which will manufacture the first drug - for hepatitis C - if clinical trials in India, sponsored by the Indian government, are successful. Hepatitis C affects 170 million people worldwide and at least 200,000 in the UK.

Multinational drug companies put the cost of the research and development of a new drug at $800m (?408m). Professors Shaunak and Brocchini say the cost of theirs will be only a few million pounds.

Imperial College will hold the patent on the hepatitis C drug to prevent anybody attempting to block its development. The college employs top patent lawyers who also work for some of the big pharmaceutical companies.

Once the drugs have passed through clinical trials and have been licensed in India, the same data could be used to obtain a European licence so that they could be sold to the NHS as well.

Professor Shaunak says it is time that the monopoly on drug invention and production by multinational corporations - which charge high prices because they need to make big profits for their shareholders - was broken.

"The pharmaceutical industry has convinced us that we have to spend billions of pounds to invent each drug," he said. "We have spent a few millions. Yes, it will be a threat to the monopoly that there is.

"I'm not only an inventor of medicines - I'm an end user. We have become so completely dependent on the big pharmaceutical industry to provide all the medicines we use.

"Why should we be completely dependent on them when we do all the creative stuff in the universities? Maybe the time has come to say why can't somebody else do it? What we have been struck by is that once we have started to do it, it is not so difficult."

The team's work on the hepatitis C drug has impeccable establishment credentials, supported by a grant from the Wellcome Trust and help and advice from the Department for Trade and Industry and the Foreign and Commonwealth Office.

But the professors' ethical pharmaceutical model is unlikely to find much favour with the multinational pharmaceutical companies, which already employ large teams of lawyers to defend the patents which they describe as the lifeblood of the industry.

One industry insider envisaged legal challenges if the new drugs were not genuinely innovative. It could become "a huge intellectual property issue", he said.
 

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Interesting story from India regarding cheaper drugs (so to speak...)


Scientists find way to slash cost of drugs


If these guys are smart enough to do this i hope they are smart enought to hire armed guards 24-7.
Chad here is the sad side to this with our country. I just saw a documentary about how primitive our internet speed is. In Japan an other places they use fiber optics which are allegedly 40 times faster than anything we have. A guy in Louisiana said to hell with this and wanted it in his town. He put it up for a vote and the people passed it overwhelmingly. The cost was something like 22 million and the product would cost less for everyone. These people all were standing tall but the cable industry with their lobbyist have now tied it up in courts. The cable company didn't want to do this themselves because of the cost and were happy selling what they had. They are buying politicians one by one and im pretty sure have convinced some states to have laws against this sort of practice. just unbelievable. If we don't get a rid of these rotten lobbyist its gonna be the same old tired thing. Last night i did hear some movement on this front. Something about the dems throwing out a bunch of stuff in January that is all backed by lobbyist. We need to get these creeps out of the picture or vote out politicians bought by these groups.
 

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If Wall Mart & Target can sell 31 pills a month for 4 bucks. And everyone is still making money. Hello!
 

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Nice thread so far.......here are some thoughts from the front lines.

Its normal to talk about and want universal health care. Of course I'm for this ideal. But, in a perfect world.........

Chadmans original op-ed points elucidates a wonderful bit of info on the sources of the economics behind today's health care delivery and the state of the union. The problems have gone far beyond the point of resolution using the only methods allowed......political reform. Its a pipe dream.....and if I thought about that every day before I slipped into the ER, I would be fighting off tears or eating it, trying to digest it, then go try and wash it away w/ a a couple of stiff drinks every nite/morning.

Everybody has a stake in the issue, and everyone should assume some portion of the blame as well; Politicians, lawyers, BigPharma, insurance carriers (health and malpractice), doctors, and patients all need to shoulder the blame.

We can go on ad nauseum on politicoes cowtowing to lobbyists from pharm/legal/insurance industries and dragging their feet onmoving forward with practical solutions to the problems.

Same can be said for my end running up the tab practicing CYA medicine, gouging insurance companies w/expensive work-ups and high-priced diagnostic testing.

Same can be said for the avg patient, who only wants quality care for themselves and their children, but are neither willing to take the preventative measures to avoid the most common health problems, nor willing to wait for the shortest period of time (minutes to hours) for eval and mngmt of their complaints (hate using that word).

I'm not really making any points here about solutions, I know.......I get frustrated about the crisis b/c I take it from all sides..........administrators telling me to provide "quality customer service" and smile and thank the patient for coming to the ER and all the other Dale Carnegie schtick they heard at a conference in San Diego and sounds good but give it a shot at 3:30am after 8 hrs in the pit chasing your tail then grabbing it as hard as you can once you finally catch up w/it.........partners who bring a roll of stamps for the last 3 hrs of their shift saying they have to go early b/c my kids got a hockey game tomorrow and thats nice you're a good mom/dad, but this room and these patients are whats paying for the skates, so dig in and help me b/c there are still 12 in the waiting room wanting to know how sick that 1yr-old w/ a fever really is.......patients who don't understand all the factors involved w/ their evaluation (i.e. how many other patients there are, how sick are those other patients, are there enough RNs, CNAs, techs, lab staff for the flow, are there beds in the house for those needing admission and further care) who turn and tell you how long the wait was before they get into their medical problems, then going on and on about what are you going to do about my vomiting child w/Cheetos all over their face who wont leave the little jar of tongue depressors alone long enough to examine his belly.......lawyers who read a medical textbook and flop a algorithm in your face asking why you did this and didn't do that and how come it took 2h45min to get an CT scan for that appendicitis diagnosis when you could have just gotten the history, examined the patient, determined the diagnosis w/ your "skills", called the surgeon right away to come in, buts he's not coming in right away w/o that CT getting performed and read by a radiologist who is actually out in Montana reading the film on a screen sipping coffee and he'll call when he's got 2 or 3 things to report and that patient be damned......nurses et al who seem unionized b/c they can call in sick, not get coverage for their slot, and leave their 4 colleagues high and dry doing the work of 6.........there's the administrator again on the phone telling you that you can't have more staffing b/c its not in the budget but do your best and remember to smile:com:

Sorry........a little stream of consciousness there for effect , but I needed a rant after the New Years weekend.....as an MD, I am fortunate b/c I am allowed to practice diagnostic medicine pretty much how I believe it should be practiced (within the parameters of the standard of care, of course), and I have a satisfying career.

Its bad out there guys. The vast majority of patients will not spend the amount of time it takes to read this thread thinking about the overall state of health care. They want theirs and they want it now, and thats pretty much it. Those of you who take the time to try and put the nuts and bolts together are not the avg patient. We cant blame the under and un-insured either. Those with insurance abuse the system just as much, and even more-so b/c they can be even more demanding about what they want done during their encounter.

That said, and without being any more than an expert in health care delivery at the grass roots level, my one thought on a silver bullet for the crisis is this............remove "over 65" from Medicare and start making some hard choices about placing restrictions on care at the end of life. I already know SS and Medicare are going broke and Dubya's little prescription idea was brutal, but thats where the bulk of the hospitals resources are going, and the subsequent cost-shifting is why a CT costs $1200. Sounds cruel and it is cruel, but thats what I'm seeing. Quality health care needs to be viewed as a privelege, not an entitlement. Natural market efficiencies will not work w/o this fundemental change.

Lets keep this thread going b/c I have alot to learn from all of you about whats going on outside of the ER. I'll take some hits like everyone does on MJS when they let their thoughts fly, but this topic is one hell of alot more important than whether or not the SEC is really the best.

Thrillin' the nation from the T Formation

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Doc i am a firm believer as you i see in preventive medicine. But what do you do when you want a few test but the insurance company won't allow them? To me this is a huge problem because the doctor gets mad and tries another way to get this test done which most likely would be illegal but the doctor has some compasion for the patient and feels this test needs to be done?
the insurance company looks at profits right now when in my opinion giving these test could save them even way more down the road.
 

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Sponge......pretty easy on my end. In the ER, every test I consider necessary during the work-up will be covered. Now thats not to say that I can just start shotgunning the board looking for an answer, but no insurance company will make a case in hindsight that a test was not necessary at the time of a patient's acute presentation. That said, many diagnostic tests do not fall under my perview.......almost any MRI (except in the event of traumatic spinal cord injury or acute functional loss related to a chronic back/neck problem such as a "bulging" disc pressing on the spinal cord, or a tumor or bleeding leading to a new physical/neurologic deficit), certain lab tests looking deeper into a problem such as an unexplained blood clot, lupus, hepatitis/HIV testing (excluding sexual assault), cancer staging....to name a few.

The dilemma you point out does not typically concern me while practicing in real-time and my experience in several Chicago hospitals is that in the event of a patient needing further work-up.....i.e. a woman w/a new lump in her breast, or anyone with a suspicious lung nodule/abdominal mass.....can easily be referred for further testing on my order as an outpatient by filling out a simple form. Certain tests can wait and would not be paid for if ordered from the ER. By necessity, I am judicious w/these cases b/c I know at its heart I am not harming the patient waiting to get the patient's testing and costs add up quick in the ER b/c testing in this setting results in premium charges to a bill much in the manner it costs 50% more for a jug of milk at 7/11....24/7 access has a price. My current hospital has an excellent system in place allowing for close follow-up of potentially dangerous initial medical findings....and failing that, we keep an open-door policy for patients who truly fall thru the cracks or even for those horses who do not drink the water the first time you lead them to the trough.

As an aside, I have indeed fudged a complaint or symptom for a patient in order to get tests that could have waited 3-4 days. Sometimes I will crack to the demands of the patient for the sake of "customer satisfaction" (ie parents wanting their kid 's head CT scaned for clinically minor head trauma........"klunk".....that's my father rolling over in his grave again), or for the patinet w/o a doctor or insurance that I just do not trust to follow a plan to the end for whatever reason (ie intoxication or cost concerns). I get a lot a leeway to do this b/c loss is built into the ER. We account for 1/2 the hospital admits and 1/2 the liability. Insurance companies will almost always dovetail Medicare when it comes to what is covered and what is not covered, and it only takes one refusal resulting in a bad outcome to take a hit from a lawsuit.

Do you have a particular example that concerns you? Happy to try and clear up what might have happened......Doc
 

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Just want to get off Iraq for a second and check if there are any new thoughts on the problems in our back yard, boys.

The tax credit for health insurance just boggles the mind. I cannot make heads or tails of this idea. A sheep in sheep's clothing is the best I can get out of this gem.

Will anyone with sharper economic sense than myself explain how giving a $7500/$15k credit to a person who makes 26k/yr help them acquire coverage?? That extra $3000 will not magically make it affordable to keep even a basic plan. Individuals will not spend their money there if the federal government puts it back in their pocket. All of this under the guise of taxing those w/ "gold-plated" plans to make up the cost of covering those who still do not get their own coverage under this plan??? I just cannot take this idea seriously.

I missed the speech and picked this up on the news. Any other great ideas get floated, or was the entire speech about foreign policy??

No back-pedal on the prescription drug klunker?

No serious consideration of tort reform on the federal level?

No incentive for individuals who take prevention of health problems to heart?

No penalties to the industries that can be proven to be responsible for the creation of some of our most prevalent and expensive health problems?

I am pissed.......would appreciate your thoughts.
 
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