Pats cheating since 2000.

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From Rotoworld:

Senator Arlen Specter told the AP Wednesday that commissioner Roger Goodell informed him Bill Belichick has been illegally spying since 2000.

That's when Belichick took over as Patriots coach. Per Specter, Goodell said Belichick claims he believed videotaping of other teams was legal. It's still unclear what Belichick taped and which games were affected.

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From ESPN.com

WASHINGTON -- Bill Belichick has been illegally taping opponents' defensive signals since he became the New England Patriots' coach in 2000, according to Sen. Arlen Specter, who said NFL commissioner Roger Goodell told him that during a meeting Wednesday.

"There was confirmation that there has been taping since 2000, when Coach Belichick took over," Specter said.

Specter said Goodell gave him that information during the 1-hour, 40-minute meeting, which was requested by Specter so the commissioner could explain his reasons for destroying the Spygate tapes and notes.

"There were a great many questions answered by Commissioner Goodell," Specter, the senior Republican on the Senate Judiciary Committee, told reporters after the meeting. "I found a lot of questions unanswerable because of the tapes and notes had been destroyed."

Goodell said Belichick told him he believed the taping was legal; Goodell said he did not concur.

"He said that's always been his interpretation since he's been the head coach," the commissioner said. "We are going to agree to disagree on the facts."

Specter, from Pennsylvania, wants to talk to other league officials about what exactly was taped and which games may have been compromised.

"We have a right to have honest football games," he said.

Goodell noted that "we were the ones that disclosed" the Patriots' illegal taping of the New York Jets' defensive signals in Week 1 of last season. Further, Goodell said, they had an admission by Belichick.

"I have nothing to hide," Goodell said.

Goodell also told Specter that that he doesn't regret destroying the Spygate tapes or the notes.

"I think it was the right thing to do," Goodell said.

Still, Specter wants to know why penalties were imposed on Belichick before the full extent of the wrongdoing was known and the tapes destroyed in a two-week span. Asked if he thinks there was a coverup, Specter demurred.

"There was an enormous amount of haste," Specter said.

He scoffed at the reasons Goodell gave for destroying the tapes and notes, particularly about trying to keep them out of competitors' hands and because Belichick had admitted to the taping.

"What's that got to do with it? There's an admission of guilt, you preserve the evidence," Specter said. As for keeping the tapes out of the hands of others: "All you have to do is lock up the tapes."

Belichick was fined $500,000 and the team was fined $250,000 because of the Spygate incident. The Patriots also forfeited a first-round draft pick.

Specter has questioned the quality of the NFL's investigation into the matter and raised the possibility of congressional hearings if he wasn't satisfied with Goodell's answers. Specter also raised the threat of Congress canceling the league's antitrust exemption and reiterated that in the meeting with Goodell.

Goodell also said he has not heard from Matt Walsh, the former Patriots employee who performed some videotaping duties for the team.

Walsh told The Associated Press last week during the Pro Bowl in Hawaii that he couldn't talk about allegations that he taped a walkthrough practice by the St. Louis Rams before the 2002 Super Bowl. New England, a two-touchdown underdog, won that game 20-17.

Goodell said he has offered Walsh a deal whereby "he has to tell the truth and he has to return anything he took improperly" in return for indemnity. Specter said he, too, wanted to talk to Walsh and perhaps offer a different deal.

Goodell also said he reserves the right to reopen the investigation if more information is uncovered.


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Just as I thought.This meeting benefits his own interests.By canceling the anti-trust exemption,things like comcast having to pay a fee to the NFL network would no longer be required.

Plus the fact hes a Eagle fan:shrug: .No surprise here ,not even the letterhead on this thread.:shrug:
 

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Not trying to start a fight w/ Pats nation...

Not trying to start a fight w/ Pats nation...

I understand that. I dont argue Specter's intentions may not be the purest....

But the facts are now that Pats have been cheating since 2000. It was not an isolated incident as most Pats fan like to claim. Goddell has admitted this openly for the 1st time.

I still dont get why the evidence was destroyed.

This is going to get worse....
 

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I understand that. I dont argue Specter's intentions may not be the purest....

But the facts are now that Pats have been cheating since 2000. It was not an isolated incident as most Pats fan like to claim. Goddell has admitted this openly for the 1st time.

I still dont get why the evidence was destroyed.

This is going to get worse....

I heard last nite that yes since 2000 same thing.
I also believe hes got no choice but to stat this if its true(Hes no Clemens).

Im gonna stand by what I originally stated.
This is not
an isolated incident in the league either.
He got ratted out by a former coach who is a dick!
Believe me if this does get worse its gonna snowball on the league.

Imagine if they really did tape the walkthrough of the Rams superbowl?Shannahan must of been like howd he do that and not get caught in the moment.

I dont know Doesnt bother me this issue,cause its a league issue.Think about it you can tape teams from the pressbox during walkthroughs this is a fact.But at field level your integrety of the games at question? Come ON!!
 

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I heard last nite that yes since 2000 same thing.
I also believe hes got no choice but to stat this if its true(Hes no Clemens).

Im gonna stand by what I originally stated.
This is not
an isolated incident in the league either.
He got ratted out by a former coach who is a dick!
Believe me if this does get worse its gonna snowball on the league.

Imagine if they really did tape the walkthrough of the Rams superbowl?Shannahan must of been like howd he do that and not get caught in the moment.

I dont know Doesnt bother me this issue,cause its a league issue.Think about it you can tape teams from the pressbox during walkthroughs this is a fact.But at field level your integrety of the games at question? Come ON!!

You are not allowed to tape walkthroughs from any level. You cant tape other teams practices so you know what is coming....that is a big no no & what the Pats are being accused of in the SB vs Stl.

Its legal to tape during the game, but not the other teams coaches box which is what New England did.
 

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You are not allowed to tape walkthroughs from any level. You cant tape other teams practices so you know what is coming....that is a big no no & what the Pats are being accused of in the SB vs Stl.

Its legal to tape during the game, but not the other teams coaches box which is what New England did.

I heard on Dennis and Callahan(WEEI) you may of heard of them living in NE,that taping WT,s were ok from the upperboxes?My pt you can tape during game from boxes,I dont see difference.

I could be mistaken about the taping of walkthrus.
 

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I heard on Dennis and Callahan(WEEI) you may of heard of them living in NE,that taping WT,s were ok from the upperboxes?My pt you can tape during game from boxes,I dont see difference.

I could be mistaken about the taping of walkthrus.

I am certain you are not allowed to tape other NFL teams practices from anywhere.

If the tape does exist & ever comes out, the Pats will be in serious trouble. I dont know if it will, but if it does look out...not only will they pay the price, but the NFL will take a major hit as well.
 
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