Polls--all tied

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Who would have thought it--with gas and subprime there has not been a better opp for Dems to get presidency again--With circumstances (for now) HUGE adv for Dems--but what did they do with opportunity--let the far left element of their party put up candidate with 0 experience or qualifications and most liberal voting record in senate. The radical left--the gift that just keeps giving. :)

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_...ial_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Saturday, July 12, 2008
The race for the White House is tied. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama and John McCain each attract 43% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, Obama holds a statistically insignificant 47% to 46% advantage. Today is the first time that McCain?s support has moved above 45% since Obama clinched the nomination on June 3. It?s also the first time the candidates have been tied since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination
 

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Who would have thought it--with gas and subprime there has not been a better opp for Dems to get presidency again--With circumstances (for now) HUGE adv for Dems--but what did they do with opportunity--let the far left element of their party put up candidate with 0 experience or qualifications and most liberal voting record in senate. The radical left--the gift that just keeps giving. :)

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_...ial_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Saturday, July 12, 2008
The race for the White House is tied. The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Saturday shows Barack Obama and John McCain each attract 43% of the vote. When "leaners" are included, Obama holds a statistically insignificant 47% to 46% advantage. Today is the first time that McCain?s support has moved above 45% since Obama clinched the nomination on June 3. It?s also the first time the candidates have been tied since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination
As I remember it before the McCain flip flop you Republicans were not too happy with him. But of course the "Liberal Press" forgets that.
 

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Not much on polls either but considering Newsweek poll which leans left also came with same--and considering obama has always polled better than votes panned out in primary-

--there might be some reason for concern

My thoughts were if McCain could stay within 10-15 points on polls he'd have a shot at election time.

Point is--this should had been walk in park election for Dems--but you once again let the radicals of your party dictate your fate.
 

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I saw something interesting in the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel this weekend. In the last five months, in Florida, there have been 112,000 new democrats that registered to vote versus 14,000 new republicans.

Obviously Florida is going to play a huge part in this election. McBush better get to getting down here.
 

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DTB My reason for Polls? Is just 10 days ago Nws Wek had Obama up by 12 to 15. Time had him by 8. I didn't believe either. And don't now either. I'll just wait and see who wins.
 

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Just WHO are these idiots that would still vote Republican???

smarter versions of the idiots who still vote democrat, at least the rep. knows their choice is below average but also knows the other choice stinks to high holy hell.
 

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I agree, and it should have been in 2004 also.

The democrats can't get out of their own way.

actually i thought 2004 wasn't going to be as close as it was only because of 9/11 & that they were going to give bush the benefit of the doubt.

but i do think that the dems blew the 200 election.

i wish the dems would have chosen a candidate who is naturally a centrist & not somebody who is making it obvious that he is moving to the middle just for the election.
 

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I saw something interesting in the Fort Lauderdale Sun-Sentinel this weekend. In the last five months, in Florida, there have been 112,000 new democrats that registered to vote versus 14,000 new republicans.

Obviously Florida is going to play a huge part in this election. McBush better get to getting down here.

ACORN registers them all time Matt--dead or alive--was same last election.

Remember me telling you if blacks only voted 70% Dem you never win election--going to have to look into into plagerism on this piece by one of african america's elite writers Thomas Sowell.
Couldn't have said it better myself--


Thomas Sowell

Liberals, race, and history
If the share of the black vote that goes to the Democrats ever falls to 70 percent, it may be virtually impossible for the Democrats to win the White House or Congress, because they have long ago lost the white male vote and their support among other groups is eroding. Against that background, it is possible to understand their desperate efforts to keep blacks paranoid, not only about Republicans but about American society in general.


Liberal Democrats, especially, must keep blacks fearful of racism everywhere, including in an administration whose Cabinet includes people of Chinese, Japanese, Hispanic, and Jewish ancestry, and two consecutive black Secretaries of State. Blacks must be kept believing that their only hope lies with liberals.


Not only must the present be distorted, so must the past ? and any alternative view of the future must be nipped in the bud. That is why prominent minority figures who stray from the liberal plantation must be discredited, debased and, above all, kept from becoming federal judges.


A thoughtful and highly intelligent member of the California supreme court like Justice Janice Rogers Brown must be smeared as a right-wing extremist, even though she received 76 percent of the vote in California, hardly a right-wing extremist state. But desperate politicians cannot let facts stand in their way.


Least of all can they afford to let Janice Rogers Brown become a national figure on the federal bench. The things she says and does could lead other blacks to begin to think independently ? and that in turn threatens the whole liberal house of cards. If a smear is what it takes to stop her, that is what liberal politicians and the liberal media will use.


It's "not personal" as they say when they smear someone. It doesn't matter how outstanding or upstanding Justice Brown is. She is a threat to the power that means everything to liberal politicians. The Democrats' dependence on blacks for votes means that they must keep blacks dependent on them.


Black self-reliance would be almost as bad as blacks becoming Republicans, as far as liberal Democrats are concerned. All black progress in the past must be depicted as the result of liberal government programs and all hope of future progress must be depicted as dependent on the same liberalism.


In reality, reductions in poverty among blacks and the rise of blacks into higher level occupations were both more pronounced in the years leading up to the civil rights legislation and welfare state policies of the 1960s than in the years that followed.


Moreover, contrary to political myth, a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. But facts have never stopped politicians or ideologues before and show no signs of stopping them now.


What blacks have achieved for themselves, without the help of liberals, is of no interest to liberals. Nothing illustrates this better than political reactions to academically successful black schools.

Despite widespread concerns expressed about the abysmal educational performances of most black schools, there is remarkably little interest in those relatively few black schools which have met or exceeded national standards.


Anyone who is serious about the advancement of blacks would want to know what is going on in those ghetto schools whose students have reading and math scores above the national average, when so many other ghetto schools are miles behind in both subjects. But virtually all the studies of such schools have been done by conservatives, while liberals have been strangely silent.


Achievement is not what liberalism is about. Victimhood and dependency are.


Black educational achievements are a special inconvenience for liberals because those achievements have usually been a result of methods and practices that go directly counter to prevailing theories in liberal educational circles and are anathema to the teachers' unions that are key supporters of the Democratic Party.


Many things that would advance blacks would not advance the liberal agenda. That is why the time is long overdue for the two to come to a parting of the ways.

--and on new dem registers in swing states --remember in 04--

NYT
September 26, 2004
A Big Increase of New Voters in Swing States
By FORD FESSENDEN

OLUMBUS, Ohio - A sweeping voter registration campaign in heavily Democratic areas has added tens of thousands of new voters to the rolls in the swing states of Ohio and Florida, a surge that has far exceeded the efforts of Republicans in both states, a review of registration data shows.

The analysis by The New York Times of county-by-county data shows that in Democratic areas of Ohio - primarily low-income and minority neighborhoods - new registrations since January have risen 250 percent over the same period in 2000. In comparison, new registrations have increased just 25 percent in Republican areas. A similar pattern is apparent in Florida: in the strongest Democratic areas, the pace of new registration is 60 percent higher than in 2000, while it has risen just 12 percent in the heaviest Republican areas. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/26/politics/campaign/26vote.html?pagewanted=print&position=
 
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ACORN registers them all time Matt--dead or alive--was same last election.

Remember me telling you if blacks only voted 70% Dem you never win election--going to have to look into into plagerism on this piece by one of african america's elite writers Thomas Sowell.
Couldn't have said it better myself--


Thomas Sowell

Liberals, race, and history
If the share of the black vote that goes to the Democrats ever falls to 70 percent, it may be virtually impossible for the Democrats to win the White House or Congress, because they have long ago lost the white male vote and their support among other groups is eroding. Against that background, it is possible to understand their desperate efforts to keep blacks paranoid, not only about Republicans but about American society in general.


Liberal Democrats, especially, must keep blacks fearful of racism everywhere, including in an administration whose Cabinet includes people of Chinese, Japanese, Hispanic, and Jewish ancestry, and two consecutive black Secretaries of State. Blacks must be kept believing that their only hope lies with liberals.


Not only must the present be distorted, so must the past ? and any alternative view of the future must be nipped in the bud. That is why prominent minority figures who stray from the liberal plantation must be discredited, debased and, above all, kept from becoming federal judges.


A thoughtful and highly intelligent member of the California supreme court like Justice Janice Rogers Brown must be smeared as a right-wing extremist, even though she received 76 percent of the vote in California, hardly a right-wing extremist state. But desperate politicians cannot let facts stand in their way.


Least of all can they afford to let Janice Rogers Brown become a national figure on the federal bench. The things she says and does could lead other blacks to begin to think independently ? and that in turn threatens the whole liberal house of cards. If a smear is what it takes to stop her, that is what liberal politicians and the liberal media will use.


It's "not personal" as they say when they smear someone. It doesn't matter how outstanding or upstanding Justice Brown is. She is a threat to the power that means everything to liberal politicians. The Democrats' dependence on blacks for votes means that they must keep blacks dependent on them.


Black self-reliance would be almost as bad as blacks becoming Republicans, as far as liberal Democrats are concerned. All black progress in the past must be depicted as the result of liberal government programs and all hope of future progress must be depicted as dependent on the same liberalism.


In reality, reductions in poverty among blacks and the rise of blacks into higher level occupations were both more pronounced in the years leading up to the civil rights legislation and welfare state policies of the 1960s than in the years that followed.


Moreover, contrary to political myth, a higher percentage of Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. But facts have never stopped politicians or ideologues before and show no signs of stopping them now.


What blacks have achieved for themselves, without the help of liberals, is of no interest to liberals. Nothing illustrates this better than political reactions to academically successful black schools.

Despite widespread concerns expressed about the abysmal educational performances of most black schools, there is remarkably little interest in those relatively few black schools which have met or exceeded national standards.


Anyone who is serious about the advancement of blacks would want to know what is going on in those ghetto schools whose students have reading and math scores above the national average, when so many other ghetto schools are miles behind in both subjects. But virtually all the studies of such schools have been done by conservatives, while liberals have been strangely silent.


Achievement is not what liberalism is about. Victimhood and dependency are.


Black educational achievements are a special inconvenience for liberals because those achievements have usually been a result of methods and practices that go directly counter to prevailing theories in liberal educational circles and are anathema to the teachers' unions that are key supporters of the Democratic Party.


Many things that would advance blacks would not advance the liberal agenda. That is why the time is long overdue for the two to come to a parting of the ways.

--and on new dem registers in swing states --remember in 04--

NYT
September 26, 2004
A Big Increase of New Voters in Swing States
By FORD FESSENDEN

OLUMBUS, Ohio - A sweeping voter registration campaign in heavily Democratic areas has added tens of thousands of new voters to the rolls in the swing states of Ohio and Florida, a surge that has far exceeded the efforts of Republicans in both states, a review of registration data shows.

The analysis by The New York Times of county-by-county data shows that in Democratic areas of Ohio - primarily low-income and minority neighborhoods - new registrations since January have risen 250 percent over the same period in 2000. In comparison, new registrations have increased just 25 percent in Republican areas. A similar pattern is apparent in Florida: in the strongest Democratic areas, the pace of new registration is 60 percent higher than in 2000, while it has risen just 12 percent in the heaviest Republican areas. http://www.nytimes.com/2004/09/26/politics/campaign/26vote.html?pagewanted=print&position=

Yeah, Wayne.

Was just passing along current news from a couple of days ago that might affect this election. While your Thomas Sowell article from 4 years ago is intriguing and topical, I think you might be surprised about how Florida votes. Either way, it will be huge and will likely decide the election.
 
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