re: nolan's beijing olympics article

pepin46

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re: nolan's beijing olympics article

nolan

i certainly do share your anger at the shameful disregard for life and human beings in general in china.

this is a very hypocritical world we live in, and part of that has to do with our commercial relations with china as well.

from the little that i know about politics, it would appear that our biggest fear has always been mainland china. this strikes right at the heart of our long-term defense strategy, and for the sake of our own survival, we are willing to sacrifice principles.

on the other side of the coin, we will pound on the little countries that are not willing to adhere to "human rights", but who have not been involved in wanton disregard of human life like we have seen in china.

if i could sum it up:

from my perspective, all i can do is conduct myself to the standards that i preach and my moral convictions, but find that even then, i find myself limited to what i can do.

i will, like you, sound off when the conditions dictate so, yet, i have to unwillingly accept that many of these decisions are beyond reason, beyond my control, and have no choice but to ignore/forget them, thus becoming part of the same hypocritical scheme.

what other choice do we have, when a nation is willing to sacrifice as many hundreds of millions of lives as necessary to attain their own version of "principles"? our government has decided that the best way to preserve our way of life is to precisely sacrifice many of the principles which are supposed to be sacred to us, for the sake of our own survival. i have to accept that, despite the obvious conflict involved.

this is a never ending argument, and certainly worth bringing up once in a while, but man, we are just a speck of dust in a very complicated world.

how do we remain sane under such pressures? putting it very coldly: getting back to work and enjoying what we have while it lasts, and thanking God that we have the liberty to speak our mind without fear of reprisal.


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Im not happy either. I will say this. We better keep close eye on things right here at home. Seem to be slipping ourselfs. Not to the killing or rules that stop you from liveing, as there. But other clouds are forming. We soon will have a large part of the world that wants nothing but killing and hate. So many place now were asked to help. Then the truth is we are hated for doing so. Sad thing in China it is so big. Most don't know or care what is happening. Just think we have close to 300 mill people here in US. They have 4 times that. But the rest of the world turns there head even more then we do. We just can't help them all.
 

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another good point, djv. not to get in a depressive mood, but yes, this country is degenerating in more than one way, and it takes someone from the upper midwest to know the difference, as many from the heavily populated coastal areas just don't know how good the quality of life is in essentially the cold midwest states, and throw canada in as well.

never mind floods and the darn winter. it is people getting along, showing respect for others and property, neighbors caring for each other. this was very evident to me in two years in minneapolis, and from all the info i have, it is basically the same in surrounding states. this was also the houston i found in 1973, but no more.

you know, i have not been around that long in this environment, but is this all coming from the nfl hangover? i know it was terrible right around and after the superbowl, and it now seems like it is coming back. heck, i think we need two nfl seasons. seems like 2 4 month football seasons with 2 months rest is the kind of anti-depressant we all need. is anybody listening?

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Howie Long may have said it the right way.
Baseball maybe our national past time.
Football is our national passion.
 

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Not much into politics in a public forum, but feel compeled to reply. This decision by the IOC is devastating to me also.


Nolan, pep, & djv: Thanks for posting your views. As a young kid, I fell for what the Olympics represented: True sportsmanship that traversed the globe! Lay the world's troubles aside and compete for the betterment of our small community-our planet. I have not watched the Olympics for several years. This corporate/money thing destroys everything for me. We all saw it coming.

Just read today - China is releasing a USA citizen and maybe more humans with ties to the US. I will not pretend to know what goes on between this great country and any foreign country.

I will say this: looks/smells like poorly conceived political manipulation by two governments and the IOC. Very sad!

Guys, I'm really, really pissed too! We can make an impact though. Pay special attention to our USA sponsors as they sign on to advertize. We will then flood them with emails, snail mail, whatever, to make our position clear.

I know I will! I will also boycott all those companies forever and let them know why.

If the USA sends a team, I'll be very shocked.

Done venting for now.
 

Phil B

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Nolan didn't mention China's one child per family policy which is brutally enforced.

Why is there such selective indignation among those who attack China's human rights abuses?

Does the USA have room to talk after allowing more than forty million legal abortions?

The front-runners for the 2012 games include Pyongyang and Baghdad.
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