Reasons why I'm betting Carolina in SB

Dizzayton

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First off, I am not saying Carolina will definitely win this game, but I think they have a shot to win, which is the first step in taking an underdog.

True NE has the best defense around, Rodney "The Enforcer" Harrison, Ty Law, Bruschi, Seymour, McGinest, Vrabel, etc. are all outstanding.

And Brady is a flat out stud, he is one of the smoothest I've ever seen, and he seems to spread the ball to multiple receivers like Montana, which is beautiful.

Belicheck and his staff are outstanding, and coaching does seem to be more important in pro football than any other sport in my opinion.

And we all know their kicking game and special teams are solid.

With all that being said and NE being such a great ball club, I still think the CAROLINA PANTHERS MATCH UP BEAUTIFULLY WITH PATS!

Pats strength on D was exhibited when they shut down MAnning and Colts passing game, but Carolina is better coached and will have a better game plan going into the game on a neutral field.

Carolina's passing game is average, and it's tough to pass well against NE, but I don't think Delholme needs much more than about 100-150 yards passing to win the game. The key is that he won't turn the ball over because he has proven to be a smart, solid QB. If he can complete 4-5 key passes when it counts Carolina should be okay.

Carolina plays a bend but don't break D, they make you earn every point. They should be able to slow down the Pats and hold them under 21 points. Pats have often failed to put the ball in the endzone, and brady makes a couple questionable passes a game that defenses seem to be dropping as of late. Pats have won 15 straight, which makes you think they are unstoppable, but they're not. They are very difficult to defeat, but not impossible. They also seem to often play in very close games.

I think the Pats will struggle on offense. Smith/faulk do not impress me enough to think they will have success against Carolina. Is Woody going to be out? I'm not sure if the pro bowler is out for the SB or not, but his absence may make a difference against the best front 4 in football, even though it didn't seem to matter against colts.

The MAIN REASON I"M BETTING THE PANTHERS IS THIS: THEY WILL RUN THE HELL OUT OF THE BALL WITH FOSTER/DAVIS 40+ times. The Colts had an awful gameplan against the Pats. They did not run the ball from the first snap on. In the third quarter they had their best drive of the game running Edge/Rhodes, showing it is possible to run against Pats, I don't care what their rush defense is ranked. Fox is smart, and he has great game plans, he will exploit their run D. From their first possession on they will give Pats a heavy dose of Davis (Who is healthy, injury is BS) and Foster who is a dynamic runner who needs to hold onto ball. The two back attack is a beautiful thing, which makes me belive Panthers stay in this game and maybe win it. If Delholme can make a few clutch passes things will be looking up for Carolina Backers. GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Woody is on the IR so he is all done for the season. Carolina offense is very balanced and this will present some problems for the pats d. The reason why I think the Pats will beat the panthers is the fact that the pats will shut the run down and put the the ball in Delholmes hands. They will also use their offense to put pressure on carolinas offense. By scoring early and getting out to a lead they will try and get carolina out of their game plan and put more pressure on Delholme. The pats were able to get pressure against Indy with the down four and slow down one of the best offenses in the league. This should be a good hard fought game
 

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That's basically what it boils down to I think. Are you willing to bet that the PAts can shut down Davis/Foster, which would likely result in an easy victory. I rather bet that the Panthers will have success running the football, I don't see why this game would be an exception. The Pats know what is coming, but can they stop it? If they crowd the Box too much watch out for Smith/Muhammed up top. Obviously you do not throw the ball on Ty Law's side of the field, and he will probably shut down smith like he did Harrison, so watch for Muhammed.
 

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One thing I do know is that there is going to be some serious hitting in this game. Both defenses are very physical
 

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I dont think they will shut them down, but they will slow them down. That is what the Patriots do best, they take away what the opponent does best. The Colts and Titans had some success running the ball because the Pats were trying to shut down the qb's. By doing this they were willing to give a little in the running game. Against Carolina,like you stated, they know whats comming so they will try to shut it down and I feel with the success they have had this year it will continue.
 

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A lot of SuperBowls are blow outs and shitty games. But is it possible to blow out this Panthers Defense? I don't think so. A lot of people thought the Rams would blow out the Pats 2 years ago, and we all saw that wasn't the case. No team is good enough to wipe the floor with this Panther team. They beat Rams and Colts in their own ****ing domes this year!!!!! That shows me what kind of defense they have. And Davis and Foster will be effective.
 

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Yup

Yup

:iagree:

Should be a great defensive game. Just what I like to see. Unfortunately being a KC fan I don't get to see defense games very often. :tongue

I'm surprise to see that whathisface hasn't trashed you thread. Yet.


PANTHERS !!!
 
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Dizz, I never indicated that there would be a blow out. I have to much respect for this Panther team. They are on an unbelievable run and have truely earned their spot in this game. In a sense these teams are very much a like. They both have solid defenses and do what it takes offensively to win. My lean towards the Pats has to do with (besides being a homer) the fact they are over all the bettor team imo. Defensively they will slow down the run, and on offense they will spread the Panthers out and throw the ball. I feel that they will take Carolina out of their game plan and expose their weaknesses. It should be a good game. Gl in what ever you do
 

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I will not place money on this NE team. Yeah they've won 14 straight, yeah they have a great D, yeah Belicheck is a mastermind. BUT 7 points is a lot to cover against a team with a great defense and solid running game. This is a tough carolina team. I got 300 on Panthers and I split a 500 square with my buddy. If both lose I'm still up 10 bucks. Gonna be a great superbowl lots of action and nothing to lose thanks to championship weekend.
 

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One thing to consider is that the Pats have only had one back go over 100 yds against them this year. That was Portis when they played in Denver. In that game Washington and Seymor did not play because of injuries. So in my opinion there is a good chance they will shut down or a least limit the run in the superbowl.
 

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I'm assuming you are refering to me SC. Nope, not gonna do it. Dizzay brings up alot of good points. I don't agree with them all but he shows that he knows his football.

Dukie you bring up a very interesting fact. With Washington and Seymour healthy we've clamped down on some of the best RBs in the league and I see no reason why it should be any different with Davis/Foster. If the Panther running game is stopped they are in deep trouble, as I see no way Delhomme can have success against this secondary. People keep saying how great the Panther defense is but fail to realize that the Pats have a BETTER defense than Carolina. And against the rush, where the Panthers' greatest offensive threat lies, NE is 3rd, the Panthers are 11th. And let's not forget that the Pats played a more difficult schedule as well.

Sorry, I fail to see where the Panthers have any kind of an advantage here. They may cover, but i seriously don't see them winning outright.

GO PATS!
 
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Davis has had his share of big games this year but against Dallas 26 carries 59 yds, atl 24 for 81 yds, Tenn 11 for 20 yds, wash 28 for 92 yds and Arz 13 for 48 yds. The Pats are very good at taking away what the opponent is good at and they are as good as any of these defenses. Imo the Pats will come out early spread out on offense and throw the ball often. If they jump out early on the Panthers they will take them out of their game plan and make them throw the ball.
 

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I'll admit, I am experiencing a little bit of a pre Super Bowl Crisis. The NE backers come up with plenty of good reasons to take NE. I am not ready to jump ship on Carolina yet, but I am not nearly as confident as I was in betting the Championship games.

Right now I am thinking NE definitely wins the game outright, earlier I thought Carolina had a chance to win, but I am starting to think they don't.

NE does have the better defense, hasn't allowed a sack all postseason, the AFC is stronger than the NFC and Bill Walsh called Brady the closest thing he's ever seen to Joe Montana, and he's right. And we all know what Montana's superbowl record was. Plus I see the short NE passing game working. WITH ALL THAT SAID, I STILL DON"T KNOW IF NE WILL COVER. This is a tough game to cap.
 

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Dizz I agree with you very tough game to call. I was just trying to point out that the Pats are very capable of stopping the run. One thing that has been going unnoticed is that the pats have a good Defensive line as well. Seymore is a Pro bowler, Ted Washington is a monster in the middle, Hamiton and Green(3 sacks against indy) are solid on the ends. The more I cap this game the more I wonder how anyone is going to score. GL in whatever you do
 

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Same thoughts.

Same thoughts.

Hey guys, enjoying the thread and thought I would jump in. I have just completed handicapping this game, and have to agree this is one tough game to cap. After 8 hours of looking at the teams and unable to determine how either team will score going with the under heavy, and carolina plus the 7...

JHR:cool:
 

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Forget second guessing......

ON SUPERBOWL SUNDAY I'M LETTING IT RIDE,
JUST SIT BACK AND HOPE LADY LUCK IS ON MY SIDE.
GONNA GET LIQUORED UP WITH A CROWN ON THE ROCKS,
CASUE I'M DRINKIN TO THE KATS AND GOOD OLE COACH FOX!

GO PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Dizzayton,

For me on Super sunday,it`ll be rye and coke,

If I run out of that I`ll just lite up a smoke,

I see you`re getting ready to waste it on the Cats,

Save your money pardner and chunk it on the Pats.


Good luck whatever you do.

Skanoochies.:D
 
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