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Possiable Money Laundering. Stay tuned. We may find out this guy is areal dandy. But we must wait till all is said and found to be true or not.
 

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Sounds like Rush was taking out just under 10 grand each time form his bank account. Something to do with some law in Florida? You dont have to report such action to the Feds if under 10 grand. Interesting.
By the way how did he escape a night in jail. If this was a middle class white guy or forsure a black man. They all would have seen the jail.
 

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Your class warfare crap really gets old. Maybe the middle class guy doesn't have quite the money to yank out just under 10 grand each time. That ever occur to you?
 

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The law were talking about is the drug law. It should fit all. It should be applied the same. But it is interesting how clever he was with his withdraws. There is nothing wrong with that. Just clever. No class war here. If I pulled this chit would expected to pay the piper.
 

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$10,000 is not a Fla law. It is a federal law. If you ever deposit or withdraw more than $10,000 CASH there is a stack of federal papers than need to be filled out and filed. It is to help prevent money laundering, I think. I used to bartend and the owner would always make a couple of deposits on Mon, Tues and Wednesday and split the weekend money up on those days, always keeping it under $10,000 to save the hassle on the paperwork.
 

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If he did some offense to merit jail time but did not receive I imagine he would have escaped the same way Clinton-O J Simpsom and others escaped it.
--and the color issue--sheez when the last time a person was asked to please fly home at their convenience and turn them selve in to be serve warrent. aka M Jackson.
It's about who got the $$$$$

By the way DJV it is quite interesting in politics today. Seems Bush pulled a Clinton with this Medicare Bill by promoting one of their programs as his own:D

The interesting point is vote on the floor where democrats were split with I belive 29 against and 20 for the plan. Went big way in branding each Dem as left or moderate---and Hilliary had to get off the fence and sided with Dashel-Kennedy and the rest of the left. Won't help her cause in 2006;)
 

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Not sure if I like this law. Seems our friends in DC alwasy need to invent another wheel. And for some reason make sure some pay back gets to the right people. Im not just talking Republicans here both Parties. Wisconsin has had a drug law for seniors now two years. Runs great. Would easly work for the country. My Mother takes a hit if she is force to join this bill. I can only hope it stays vouluntary. It cost her to much. Wis is better.
As for OJ. Dont know what to say. For Rush let a court of law have at him. If not gulity let him walk the streets. I never heard about Clinton being on drugs. I know he was over sexed. Don't now if there is a law on that or not. But it has nothing to do with Rush anyway.
 

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Not sure I like it either DJV. I am always leary of issues where added budget expense is of a permanant and esculating nature.
My biggest beef on this administration is I don't believe there has been a spending bill veto yet.
When you get government involved in healthcare your asking for chaos.
 

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There is much about this bill to not like. It is strictly a vote-buying grab by politicians. The Gimme Generation wants their prescription drugs paid for by somebody else, and the politicians know that the Gimme Generation votes. So .. give the oldsters what they want. We're told it will be $400 billion over the next ten years .. but there is absolutely nothing in the bill that limits this spending to $400 billion. It will almost certainly be $600 billion and could easily approach twice the original estimates.

Let's address the Democrat's threatened filibuster. There is only one reason the Democrats want this bill to fail, and that is because it provides for private sector competition with Medicare; not now, but in about six years. Democrats absolutely hate the idea of private sector competition with any government program. That is why Democrats have been working so hard to kill a voucher system for the abysmal Washington DC government schools. Democrats know that with every program government controls comes millions of Americans .. and that means controlling millions of American votes. The two biggest vote-controlling programs out there are Social Security and Medicare. For every American that leaves the government operated Medicare program for a private sector option the Democrats see a vote lost. So ... an attempt at a filibuster.

Remember ... always remember ... Democrats think America is great because of government. Freedom and economic liberty have nothing to do with it.
 

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Turf:
Good post. My problem is this:
Why is the Republican party growing the federal government? This has typically been the tag line for a Democratic admin but the current admin is spending out of control. Is it if we can't beat them, join them philosophy? Or, are they vote grabbing also in the pre-election year?

Disappointing. And, I am not a fan of a federally controlled drug plan.
 

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I don like a lot of fed programs either. I understand S S because so many companies years ago did not have good pention plans. they did not offer things like 401K and percentage match programs. There is another reason For S S that is not talked about very much. The great depression left so many folks broke they could not recover. Many were in mid life and older. Lost it all in saveings or Stock Market. So the need was there. This also gives us a little warning of S S going to far in wrong direction. Because folks anything can happen again. As it just about did in 2001/02. Many folks went broke again. Greed and companies such as World Com and afew more cost folks to jump off bridges.
Wisconsin has a drug provider that is easy and does not take 670 pages as the Fed one does. Very simple. You have less then 15000 a year income. Are 65 or older. You pay a fee of 30 bucks a year. You get drugs at co pay 10 or 15 dollars. Your income is over 15000 a year. You pay 30 bucks a year. You pay for the first 500 bucks of drugs. Then go on co pay 10 or 15 bucks. I do believe they also have if your income is over 75000 a year your on your own. Or it's 1500 out of your pocket first. That number will adjust to invlation. I guess that dont bother me to much. If I do have 75000 comeing in at 65 I can handle drug cost. All though it smacks of kicking the money guy in the butt. But Wisky older folks think it's great All drug companies still selling there drugs here no compaines going broke. No Fed's with tons of paper work. Simple neet and clean.
 
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THATS WHY PEOPLE SHOULD SAVE THEIR OWN MONEY FOR RETIREMENT!!!!!! TO HELL WITH S.S. AND MEDICARE!!!! IT IS A RIPOFF!!!! EVERYONE GETS SCREWED WITH IT AND PAYS 3-4 TIMES YOU SHOULD HAVE TO!!!!!

Now Bush is spending 400 billion which we all know will be 1 trillion $$ in a few years!!! UNREAL!!!! What is this guy thinking???? Spending like a LIBERAL!!!!

NOW, prescription drugs will rise EVEN FURTHER!!! Because the market has absolutely NO force whatsoever!!! This is absolute trash for the taxpayer!!!!

Yet the bully pulpit gets this across!! And somehow Teddy Kennedy is whining and complaining about it!!! Because it is not liberal enough??? Does he think we have money trees growing in the midwest?

If the consumer pays out of HIS OR HER pocket for drugs the market will drop the $$ remarkably.....but no....that will never happen with this ridiculous piece of sh_t legislation....

Bush seems to have guts going after terrorism...but as far as dealing with the whining and crying AARP, he has turned into their little XXXXX
 

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Why in the hell would anyone even listen to Limbaugh's radio program the guy has shown his true colors, talking shit about how bad drugs are and how drug users should be given maximum sentences at the same time using drugs himself. I think Howard Stern has more creditability than good old Rush.
 

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Now here's an interesting little factoid I'll bet you didn't know. I learned this reading a Bruce Bartlett column this morning. All of our nation's major entitlement programs were enacted into law when one party controlled the Presidency, the House and the Senate. We got the hideous Social Security problem when FDR was in the White House and Democrats controlled the House and Senate. Medicare came to us when LBJ was in office with Democrats controlling congress. Now it's the prescription drug benefit. We have a Republican president and Republicans in control of the House and Senate .. and what do we get for Christmas? a boondoggle that will cost us over $2 trillion over the next 20 years.

Here's something else you don't know. Every single penny that is to be spent on the drug benefit package is going to have to be borrowed. There is no surplus in the federal treasury with which to pay the tab. The money has to be borrowed. And just who will pay the money back? I can tell you who won't pay the money back: Seniors who will benefit from this program over the next decade and the supporters and politicians who put it in place today: The seniors will get taxpayer funded subsidies to buy their drugs. This means that they will be able to spend their own money on something else. Remember ... the people who will benefit are the wealthiest segment of our society, and less than 5% of them have reported any serious difficulties in getting their prescription drugs.

The politicians, of course, will get the votes of the seniors in 2004. That's what drove this whole bill in the first place ... vote buying. That's the way it goes, though. Seniors vote. Young people don't. That's why young Americans and their children will be making the payments on this vote buying scheme for years to come.

Pundits are calling this a huge political win for the White House. Maybe so ... if reelection is all you're considering. George Bush says "we're keeping our promise to America's seniors." Yeah ... we're keeping our promise to loot future generations of Americans so that the Gimme Generation can free up some of its money for more bingo cards instead of having to spend it on their prescription drugs. It's a huge financial loss for future generations of Americans. Too bad they aren't paying attention.

There has been absolutely no effort whatsoever on the part of Republicans in the Senate or the House to limit spending, and George Bush has raised not one complaint, let alone veto one bill, to bring things under control.

Bruce Bartlett's article is suggesting that we need gridlock again ... we need a Democrat in the White House with Republicans in control of the congress. Right now that sounds like a pretty good idea.



Bring back gridlock
 

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Turf you may be dead on. When the American people realy find out how bad this bill is. Well it may not help Bush. But on the other hand it does not show it's real cost and colors for 2 more years. Very clever that Republican congress. And you are correct again all borroed money. That means you and I we all pay for it.
I think Wis plan is a good one. So easy to understand and use. Cost is to no one but some help from cig taxes. Rest is covered by the seniors.
Master capper you may be 100% correct. He is a big BS-er.
 

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can't argue with bushes's misuse of money. way too much spending..


on the rush thing: there is a big difference between consuming drugs by a person, and the person who deals. rush deserves punishment, but he is not in the class of drug dealers (where this maximum penalty thing comes up). interesting note you can be arrested for possession,distribution, but not consumption.
 

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The other thing I find interesting Elvis is. This fed law about with draw of 10000 grand or more. However if you transfer the money to your checking no problem. Wonder why I guy like Rush needs walking around money of 9000 grand at time. It is rumored 5 times last year that was the case. Must be buying some secreat stuff.
 

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if this is true than this is odd. honestly, haven't paid much attention to rush since college. always lked him, but don't even listen to the program. only reason he got my attention again because he was on the talk show for football. hated the way they ran him off, but it worked out. berman and the others struggled with him. he was a poor fit. anyway i'll leave it alone because my knowledge of him and his situation is inadequate at best. :)
 
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