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Pounding one game early before any line moves and will explain later...also looking hard at Wake, Va Tech, WVU, Michigan and FSU. All look very good to me...all comments on these games welcome.



UVA -2.5, 4*
 
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Couldn't agree more on UVA. My thoughts on Clemson were well documented last week. They have received too much credit for the Georgia Tech game. They simply can not run the football and will not win with that offense. Bowden needs to stop trying to do everything like Dad or he will be looking for a job soon. They were lucky to only lose by 14 to MD. UVA is actually very similar to MD, they will move the ball on the ground and in the air, and will win by 14.
 

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that was my first play sunday night......i was surprised that the line was this low.....i was hesitant to post it because i smelled trap(oakland -3:rolleyes: )....maryland,right now,isn`t all that good..clemson`s got dangerous receivers,but once again,is one dimensional...

also hit wake at -4 and am looking hard at michigan,fsu(everybody liking miami,but,they have very little ground game without gore)..i8 don`t think berlin can carry them...and lorenzo booker and greg jones should be ready and healthy........wake coming off a tooth and nail loss to virginia and a bye week....a consistently solid club week in and week out....ga. tech is very inconsistent....they played well last week...i expect a lesser effort vs a wake club with a great work ethic...

homerh brought my attention to so carolina ...i bought it down to 6 at pinnacle(was 6.5).....so carolina`s ground game is cranking,the defense is solid and pinkins improves every week....ky doesn`t run well and were handled by the teams they played that did(louisville rushed for 240...alabama rushed for 266 and even indiana rushed for 183).....i think south carolina is the better club and will grind it out on kentucky....the big boy will have to put the wildcats on his back again....so carolina`s defense is looking strong...

looking at tx tech-16 vs iowa st,i`m hedging on this one....iowa st hasn`t shown much against real good clubs....not sure about tx tech....we know they`ll score......something has me holding back here....maybe the fact that tx tech can`t keep throwing up 40 or 50 every week....can they?...

south carolina -6....wake forest -4......virginia-2....so far....

jeff....one thing we have to consider....and probably a contributing factor to the low line is that virginia has fla st on deck.......a tough look ahead angle...

g.l.,bud
 
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Weasel- Man, do we think alike or what?

Wake should win by DD. GT is not going to do much on the road this year with a freshman QB and the lack of offense. Wake had the week off while GT was beating NCST and I'm sure doing some celebrating.

Youre right, UVA does seem too easy, but I just can't see Clemson beating them. I can't imagine why anyone would like Miami in this one. FSu defense is absolutely dominant and Berlin is shaky, plus with Gore out? May tease FSU big with another game to be determined. Michigan in a must win against a team at the height of its popularity. take a look at V Tech too, think they might just lay an ass-whooping on Cuse, although Cuse has picked my pockets this year. Thanks for the heads up on SC, will take a look...
 

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We may have lucked out a bit. The game is OTB cuz Whitehurst is questionable. You would think Vegas would have known this when they put the line out there. Just goes to show they don't know everything.
 

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Whitehurst, three others miss practice because of injury

Starting quarterback Charlie Whitehurst was one of four Clemson starters who was prevented from practicing Monday because of injury.

Whitehurst, who has a foot injury, is listed as questionable for Saturday?s game against Virginia and will be replaced by redshirt freshman Chansi Stuckey if he can?t play.

Linebacker Eric Sampson (sprained ankle) and wide receiver Airese Currie (sprained ankle) also are questionable.

Defensive end Khaleed Vaughn is doubtful after having arthroscopic knee surgery Sunday.

?It?s going to be tight with all of them,? said Clemson coach Tommy Bowden. ?We?ll just go with whoever we?ve got. Chansi. Gaines Adams stepping in (for Vaughn). Curtis Baham (for Currie), and Lionel Richardson (for Sampson).?

Senior Tony Elliott also will play more at wide receiver if Currie can?t play. Elliott has nine catches for 88 yards and one touchdown over the past two games, including an incredible, leaping reception over the middle Saturday against Maryland.

But Elliott doesn?t stretch the defense as well as Currie, a sprinter who won the 100 meters in the NCAA East Regional outdoor track championships.

?He?s the biggest jet,? Bowden said of Currie. ?He?s the Concorde, the supersonic guy. That would hurt you a little bit (if Currie can?t play).?

? Officiating concerns. Bowden sent ACC officiating coordinator Tommy Hunt videotape of some calls Bowden questioned in Saturday?s 21-7 loss to Maryland.

Bowden wouldn?t comment on which calls he questioned, but one of them likely is Maryland?s 69-yard touchdown reception by Derrick Fenner, who had been out of bounds before the catch.

Officials ruled that Fenner was eligible to come back in bounds because Clemson cornerback Tye Hill forced Fenner out of bounds. But Bowden questioned whether there was a collision on the play that forced Fenner out of bounds on the Clemson sideline.

?We lost three cups of Gatorade,? Bowden said. ?I didn?t realize he was going to stop over there, take a drink and then keep going.?

? Tiger tracks. Hill said he let Fenner run past him on the touchdown because he thought Fenner was ineligible. ?Once he was out of bounds, I thought he was dead, and I was looking back for work,? Hill said. ... Freshman Jad Dean and walk-on Stephen Furr began working on long field goals Monday. Bowden has indicated he might use one of them instead of Aaron Hunt on kicks of 43 yards or longer.
 

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Bowden complaining about officiating is pathetic. He should pay more attention to his teams mistakes.

MD was up 14-0, had a third and 13, gained about 30 yards to Clemson's 25 yard line and got called for holding. That call was horrific. I was standing right there on the sidelines and that call was terrible. It changed the momentum of the game. MD was about to go up 21-0, but because of the penalty, had to punt and them Clemson had the long play for the touchdown.

Trust me, Friedgen was pissed about that call, especially since video showed the call to be as terrrible as it looked.

Sorry to rant, but Bowden is a joke.
 

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Virginia Tech -18, 4*
Like this one a lot. Cuse is overvalyed after beating up on weak comp. The only good team theyve beaten was Toledo, and that was at home with Toledo coming off the Pitt and Marshall wins.

Cuse has to run the ball to win, and that isn't going to be easy against this run D (90 ypg, 2.7 ypc). Reyes is a stud and willget his yards, but it won't matter. Tech will stack the box and forces Anderson to throw the ball, which rarely works out well for the Cuse.

On the other side of the ball, Tech is racking up 439 yards and 44.4 points a game. Cuse allowing 416 a game. The pass D is very suspect. Forget little Vick, Randall is playing out of this world right now. When the passing game and the running game (with Jones) get going, Tech looks like title material. Theyve beaten everyone but Tex AM by more than 20, and they beat A&M by 16.

Also, Tech has double revenge after losing two years straight to inferior Cuse teams. Watch out for special teams, too. Tech is the best punt block team in the nation, and Cuse P has had trouble getting kicks off. He's had them blocked in last two games. Tech is always good for at least one special teams/defensive TD.

Blacksburg is where mediocre teams go to die.
 
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UMD -27, 2*

Only thing that scares me is the BD cover. But the Terps defense is playing so well right now, it shouldnt be a big concern.

MD has given up one TD in each of its last three games and is become one of the top D's in the nation. Best in ACC after FSU.
Meanwhile, DUke has managed one TD in each of its last two. So how many will the Dookies score here. Duhhh...probably one.

So then, I expect Duke to score somewhere in the 7-13 point range. That means we'll need 35-40 from MD. I think we get it. Last two years Terps have beaten Duke 45-12 and 59-17. This offense may not be putting up huge numbers, but its averaging 29 (38.8 at home) and is finally getting its rhythm, with the OL and RB injuries healed up.

Duke run game is decent but the pass game is anemic and they only score one point per 22 yards. Thats not good. MD pass D will completely stifle them. Terps have a bye week after this, so hopefully they aren't on "mental vacation" already.
 

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thanks horns and ar182

thanks horns and ar182

Tease: FSU -1, Wake +1.5, 3*
FSU -6.5, 1*
Wake -4.5, 1*

I feel strongly both teams win, but I'd rather rely on that than give the points, at least on my big bet. Also medium plays on each team minus the points.

On FSU -- Noles may have the nations best defense. Miami O is struggling in the run game and with Berlin's inaccuracy. Without Gore, they will struggle. FSU has the LBs to contend with Winslow, who Miami will need a huge game out of. FSU has double revenge and can smell blood. This is a huge game for their program in trying to get back to the elite level.

On Wake -- GT has been terrible on the road. Only win was a last second comeback at miserable Vandy. Wake is a very underrated team under Grobe and has had two weeks off toprepare and heal up all those injuries. Wake is 4-0 Su as a fave of 10 or less. GT is coming off the big win over NCSU...can you say letdown? The jackets probably were celebrating this week, and even without that factor its hard enough to get ready for that unusal offense Wake runs. This might be a blowout. Wake could have easily beaten UVA and Purdue, losing in the final miuntes. This team could be undefeated and everyone would be talking about them. Wake is undervalued.
 

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Ohio State -2.5, 3*

Oho State may get cut down trying top defend its title, but it ain't gonna happen this easily, against a team with this many holes.

Lets see..Wisky MUST run the ball to win, but OSU has one of the country's best run Ds. I hate to give Trev Alberts any credit, but he said exactly what I was thinking tonight, which is OSU will stack the box and force Sorgi to throw,and that's where the TOs will come into play. Sorgi is extremely inconsistent and is good for several screwups every game. This team will take advantage. Also the injury situation looks good, as Anthony Davis and the #2 RB are ailing while Krenzel is back.

SD State/Utah under 48, 2*
SD state one of the nations better defense. Gives up about two TDs per game, including the close loss at Ohio State. Last wk vs BYUwas somewhat of a fluke. SD State 1-5 OU as dog of 3.5-10 pts, 1-7 OU when total is 42.5 to 49, 2-9 OU in road games.

In three road games, SD State gave up one point per 21 yards -- excellent, considering UCLA and Ohio State were two of those.
They're also allowing a 48% competion percentage, which is key against that spread offense.

I see Utah coming out a bit flat in this sandwich game, before UNLV and after the big Oregon win. Neither team looks likely to run the ball well, with Utah holding opponents to 3 ypc at home and SD allowing 2.6 ypc on the road.
 
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To summarize, here's my list (have upgraded some, downgraded one or two and bought some points):
1.Ohio State -2.5, 3*
2.SD State/Utah under 48, 3*
3.Tease: FSU -1, Wake +1.5, 3*
4.FSU -6.5, 1*
5.Wake -4.5, 1*
6.Tease: Denver Broncos -.6, FSU -.5, UNC -2, 2*
7.UMD -27, 2*
8.V Tech -17 (bought half point), 3* to win 2.5*
9.UVA -2.5, 4*

May make a late add-on, but for now this is it. GL fellas!
 
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