saturday 10/4/03 college plays/thoughts/write-ups....

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overall......14-8 (+10.7 units)
2 unit........ 5-1 (+8.3 units)
1 unit........ 9-7 (+2.4 units)

kinda doing a "self-evaluation" to see where im succeeding but also what areas i need to improve on.

*clearly im fortunate enough to be benefitting from successful capping of my strong plays (2 unit and above) which is something ive always prided myself on doing. on an anonymous forum, i have no way of knowing if any of my plays get followed, but i always pride myself on being able to hit the games i play/post as strong plays for 2 reasons - one being that obviously, its a stronger play for me personally in terms of how much im betting, and two, if someone was to randomly pop in my threads and follow, theyre more likely to do so on a 2 unit play or above.

*on the flip side, im really treading water on my 1 unit plays. i need to get that percentage up, and i think i need to limit my plays a little in terms of the quantity of 1 unit plays. sometimes (and i think were all guilty of this at times), we start off the day with a bang and then sometimes we "force" some add-ons. theres times when i definitely feel confident about some add-ons, but i gotta show some discipline and not add anything im not 100% sold on. no reason for me to be cutting into my bottom line figure. as good a season as its been, it should be better and i gotta lay off some add-on games unless i liked em earlier in the week. for those that have followed a late add-on of mine and come up short, my apologies. i need to be a little more selective and not cut into my profits.

for saturday october 4th (will add to the list but probably only gonna have 4 plays or so):

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2 units....auburn (pk) over tennessee
2 units....ohio university (+21.5) over northern illinois
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1 unit.....bowling green/central michigan over 60.5
1 unit.....bowling green/central michigan over 57.5 (line drop)
(bgsu over is essentially a 2 unit play, just at different lines)
1 unit.....texas a+m (+5) over texas tech
1 unit....kansas state (+6) (+105) (pinnacle) over texas
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gotta be honest, was strongly looking at bowling green minus the points, but i am still gonna mull it over. clearly, its a show of respect to hellah. for as much success as ive had in the mac over the years, hellah is on point with enough mac stuff that i gotta consider laying off. will wait to see his write up on the game. but its mind boggling what bowling green does to people at home. once coach brandonn took over as offensive coordinator (and now head coach this year), he has made that offense a juggernaut and the falcons just pound the pi$$ outta teams at home. them averaging 50+ pts a game at home the L2 years is disgusting, lol. i can see a homecoming rout, but will lay off for now. very interested in hellah's write up on this one.

auburn....tigers have underachieved so far this year but those early losses didnt ruin any sec title hopes. auburn still talented enough to win the conference (although their schedule is brutal, with tons of tough road dates). this is a winnable game vs tennessee. true to sec football, this one should be defense galore. everyone is sold on tennessee in this one, but the vols arent exactly lighting up the offensive scoreboard. tigers run the ball well enough to battle the vols every play. auburn seems to have cleared their heads from their 0-2 start with back-to-back throttlings of inferior foes (vandy and w.kentucky). but i think those cupcake games help auburn in the long run. if this is a week one game, auburn probably a 3.5 or 4.5 point chalk. talent-wise, theres value in auburn here. tigers gotta find a way to get this home win.

ohio......huskies are spread-perfect this year, but i think theyve become a little overvalued at this point. i know its only a month into the season, but i dont think theyre 3+ touchdowns better than the bobcats. both teams really like to pound the ball on the ground, so im not seeing a ton of possessions. clock should move quickly. bobcats can be a tricky team. when they establish their tempo and option-attack, they can hang in a lot of games. theyre by no means a come-from-behind team, so i wont be expecting any backdoor cover from them. i just think theyre good enough to make this a lower-scoring, power football game. niu should have no trouble with ou, but i still think bobcats cover with no problem. also worth noting that northern illinois is in a big time "double sandwich" (if i can create a capping term). theyre coming off back-to-back wins over bcs-conference teams (alabama and iowa state) and have 2 elite mac teams on deck (western michigan followed by bowling green). very easy for huskies to get complacent and not be their sharpest


bowling green over 60.5......write-up below
texas a+m (+5)....................write-up below
kansas state (+6) (+105)....write-up below
 
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gman

Really like you're reasoning on the Ohio call. This very well could be the week to fade NIU. Will have to look into that one. Keep up the excellent work.
 

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thanks for the respect gman...

looks like we agree on Ohio here. NIU isnt the type of team that blows teams out...I like it :D

good luck
 

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Great work!

I agree with Auburn. Way too many people already on TN. I also agree with Bowling Green, was suprised to see Hellah make it a GOY play.
 

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wiz:

i was thinkin the exact same thing when i saw your post on auburn. when we concur on a game, our win % has got to be awfully high. props on cuse and msu last week. gl this weekend brother.
 

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can any west coast guys or those familiar with the wac tell me if there are any injuries/suspensions/etc to anyone involved in the boise/latech game? i saw the game went temporarily off the board at pinnacle. now im seeing boise re-installed as a 8.5 point chalk (up from 6.5 and 7.5 earlier this week). just natural line movement or is there anything that is of note in that game? very close to playing latech, but want to make sure i go in knowing all the variables. thanks
 

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pinnacle has boise st. favored by 9. the other 3 books i use have boise st. at 8.5. still looking to see what's up with this game.
 

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ar182:

thanks for the reply. anyone else out there- please feel free to add anything if theres anything worth noting in this game. i guess im not entirely surprised by a big line move- after all boise is one of, if not THE, most public mid-major football program, so big line moves are sometimes the norm with them. just want to be sure before i hit tech that im not backing a depleted team.
 

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i can't believe that the dramatic line move is because they are a public team. all the books moved at the same time, which makes me believe there is some kind of injury.
 

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gman,

i asked fletcher about the move in the la tech game. it's in his thread if you are interested.


i always read your analysis on games & find them insightful.

good luck & continued success.
 
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bowling green over 60.5
the more i looked at this one, the more i liked it. and i ended up throwing a unit on it. originally leaned to the falcons, but passed for reasons stated above (hellah goy). but lots of reasons i think this one busts the high total with no problem. falcons have had a week off to prepare for this homecoming game. and bgsu pounded the piss outta ohio university last year as a high chalk on homecoming (bgsu was a 20-something chalk and won 72-21)
brandon and company have no shame scoring late into the 2h and lighting up the scoreboard, especially at home. falcons averaging an obscene 52 points per game at home the last 2 years. chippewas and falcons played a shootout last year in michigan (bowling green won 45-35). goin with the over kinda satiates my wanting to play on bgsu here, so hopefully we can get a 49-27 kinda of game so all you chips backers can cash and i can hit this over. scoreboard should be well lit-up after this one.
 

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gman

sorry to bust in on your thread but wondering what your thoughts are on the Zips/Miami total. At 64 now, but saw that it opened at 67 and looking at the over. Kind of confused by the line drop.

Have read that Akron defence is pretty porous (heck Buffalo scored 21 on them and Buffs previous high was 15 vs. Colgate) but not sure of Red Hawks ?D?

Only read about Miami?s ?collapse? in the 4th quarter vs Cincy, but makes me think, is this a team that relaxes with a comfortable lead and is prone to garbage points at the end?

Last year, teams combined to score 79 points but in previous three they were all in the 50s (57 in each game the last 2 years and 55 three years ago)

Miami has averaged just over 40 points in last 3 games while Akron kind of shuffled past Buffalo with a pretty ordinary 38.

Thanks for any opinions

Take care and good luck
 

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stagger:

whats up man.

re: your question on zips/redhawk total.
as high as that total is, i can see it going over the total.
the price certainly isnt cheap. a total between 64-67 is gonna 9 touchdowns and a fg here or there. the thing is, miami should abuse the zips defense. what you read about akrons defense is correct- its porous (and thats being kind). roethlisberger should feel like he's working a 7-on-7 drill. but akron's offense is a juggernaut itself. i honestly believe that if akron had a defense this year, they would win the mac. thats how good charlie frye and the zips offense is. im not exactly sure where frye ranks nationally in passing, but i gotta think he's in the top 5 in the country. akron traded touchdowns with wisconsin earlier this year (48-31 final) and they even traded scores and got torched by kent state, who has little offense to speak of (41-38 final).

honestly, zips are just one of those teams that defy logic on their totals. 64,65,66,67- those are all high numbers for most teams. but akron just eshews defense. id draw a parralel to the dallas mavericks. theyll trade you score for score all day long, and come up short in the end because they can never stop anyone when they need to.

also, both teams have pass-oriented attacks. which means lots of incompletions (clock stops), lots of first downs (clock stops momentarily), and lots of big plays. clock not gonna move very rapidly in this game.

you are right though, a couple akron/miami games in past years have found some defense worked into them. i doubt this year will be like that though.

(btw stagger, i lost your email apparently. thought i had it on file, but if you ever need anything, just grab my email from jack. or by all means feel free to post it here. take it easy man. good to hear from you)
 

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Thanks again gman

As always, appreciate your input. Will probably play the over.

As for the e-mail, not going to post it here for obvious reasons, but when I get a chance I'll e-mail jack.

Good luck this weekend.
 

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texas a+m (+5) over texas tech
not sure how i missed this one when i originally started to cap games for the week. i think the aggies win this one straight up. theyve played a far tougher schedule to this point and (i guess its all relative in this case) the better defense. tech is giving up way too many yards this year to lay any sort of chalk in this spot. symons is setting the world on fire right now, but i think a+m is gonna blitz the sh1t out of him and force him to make quicker reads. why on earth mississippi just sat back and let symons annihilate them last week is beyond me. with tech averaging close to 50 points the last two weeks, its tough to not give em a look, but a+m is far more fundamentally sound in my opinion. aggies have shown an ability to move the ball at times this year vs pretty good opponents. tech defense is a sieve. aggies win a close one.
 

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Believe general public is "living" off the tremendous year Boise had last year hence the line moving upward. Be aware that prior to last year's team, Boise always struggled on the road. This year, they are reverting to form again - see Idaho. Also, the team has yet to gel and haven't put it together. Won't get it @ LA Tech. Take the points.

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gridman:

i agree with everything you said. im still on the fence with this latech game. clearly, its tech or pass. actually i think many assume boise is the same team theyve been for the last 3 or 4 years .....theyre not. tech a little banged up but still probably the right side...i remain on the fence....gl
 
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