saturday 9/20/03 college football plays/ write-ups.....

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season.......9-4 (+9.2 units)
2 unit..........3-0 (+6.5 units)
1 unit..........6-4 (+2.7 units)

will add to the list periodically throughout the week as some lines become more favorable, but all in all, doesnt seem like theres a lot of worthwhile games out there this week. played this one early though:

2 units......buffalo (+25) over uconn
this set-up reminds me of a game i played 2 weeks ago (backing wake forest as a home dog over nc state). the logic that applied there can also apply here (although i am aware buffalo is light years away from being wake forest). but the logic is simple, yet effective. over the last handful of years, the uconn program and the nc state program havent really been in a lot of situation where they are EXPECTED to win on the road, and not only do that, but do it CONVINCINGLY. this is an entirely new setup to uconn. normally, as long as they played close they could cover. but now these guys have to take a totally different mindset. and quite honestly- it aint easy. especially when there are big time games on deck. nc state went into wake forest clearly looking ahead to ohio state, and they paid for it. in this uconn/buffalo matchup- there is no doubt in my mind uconn is thinking they have a freebie, and essentially a "bye week". after all, buffalo just got beat by colgate for christsake, at home no less. but check out the scheduling spot for uconn. this is a young uconn team that is coming off an emotional loss to their newfound rival boston college, and next week the huskies play a huge game on the road in virginia tech. i can see the uconn players laughing at the bulls right now. buffalo basically hit rock bottom. it cant get any worse. having said that, (hold all laughter) - it wouldnt surprise me to see buffalo stay within 20 of uconn at all. the scheduling spot is too anti-uconn and the line is clearly overadjusted to reflect uconn as an up and coming team whereas the bulls have been brutal. huskies just not used to this spot. with a big time lookahead, bulls should hang the number

1 unit.....clemson (+4.5) over georgia tech
(added 1 unit on clemson (+5.5), thus a 2 unit play overall)
actually think this is a good spot for clemson to win straight up. last time we saw clemson vs a power school team, they were blasted on opening weekend by georgia 30-0. tigers were pretty damn pathetic. since then theyve rebounded with wins over mutants like furman (28-17) and middle tennessee (37-14) (side note: not a good month for middle tennessee people. blue raiders are 0-3 and prized alum and browns qb kelly holcomb is the worst rated passer in the afc. :thefinger thats for you holcomb- ill still never understand why they gave him couch's job)
aannnnnnyyywaay......back to the clemson game. so clemson is in off two wins over low level teams. why back em here? because i actually think this is still a pretty good team. i like their offense, i think theyre capable of moving the ball on tech (although the jackets have shown to be pretty stingy on defense this year). meanwhile, tech is in off a heartbreaking loss to florida state 14-13 last saturday. jackets, as we know, held a 13-0 lead with 12:00 left in that one. very demoralizing loss for tech, and i think there will be a definite hangover effect in this one. a very good capper once pointed out to me how profitable it can be (in the right spots of course) to look to go against a team coming off a down to the wire finish where they come up on the short end. these kids often let a loss linger longer (hows that for alliteration?) than they should. even though tech may be the better team, i think this spot is great for clemson to go to 3-1 overall.

1 unit......hawaii (+1) over unlv
not a top play by any means, but still like the bows to win this game friday night. both teams pretty solid this year. rebs probably a little stingier on defense whereas jones boys always hold a passing and offensive edge against most teams they play. i just think the usc game is going to help hawaii here. rebels coming in off a big upset win in madison against wisconsin. gotta give credit where credit is due, unlv dominated that game and it certainly wasnt a fluke by any means. that being said- vegas probably should have lost straight up to toledo at home (if not for that late 4th qtr rally) and they inexplicably got blasted by kansas 2 weeks ago. hawaii doesnt have much of a "log" to draw anything from. by that i mean win over appalachian state doesnt say much, but game vs usc was an expected mismatch. it is however worth noting that the bows moved the ball surprisingly well vs one of the top defenses in the country last saturday- including early on when it wasnt garbage time. usc just eventually took control of that game and ran away with it. but i think that game will help chang and the hawaii offense this week. rebs defense should have far more holes in it and i think hawaii gets out of town with a win. i think the real unlv is closer to the team that lost to kansas and almost toledo than the one that beat wisky. small play on hawaii

1 unit.....oregon (+7.5) over michigan
really senseless to type a lot on this game, as anything of relevance or importance has already been covered in numerous threads on this board (as far as this game goes). wolverines looked fu/ckin dynamite vs notre dame, and michigan clearly one of the nations best this year, but i dont think that guarantees a cover here by any means. oregon is a phenomenal home team over the years. way too many points for michigan to lay out west in my opinion. only thing that scares me is michigan is going to be much more physical than oregon, which is what keeps me from making any more than a one unit play. ducks should be in this one the whole way. michigan by 5
 
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UCONN did go on the road and beat the crap out of Army this year. Buffalo is so bad, just can't back them.
 

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with all due respect I think you are reaching here. conn knows they have no shot vs. va tech. this program, now on the road to respectability, will take a win any way they can. they take nothing for granted.

don't see a letdown here. buffalo is basically a ny sate funded school that should not be a Div 1 program.

while you are free to bet what you want, please tread lightly...

finally to base a pick because it reminds you of two unrelated teams is risky. just my two cents

good luck
 

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bombs:

i know what you mean brother- buffalo is definitely an ugly dog. i think they hang the number. dont fault you for watchin from the sidelines though. youre right re: uconn win vs army on the road. really feel like this is a sandwich game for uconn. theyre coming off a game vs rival bc, now they play lame azz buffalo, but have va tech on deck. just see a big time lookahead for the young huskies

najeff:

you havent agreed with 10 of my 13 selections this year. thankfully you dont agree with this one either. makes me feel even better about my bulls play. it would be when you agree with one of my plays that i would start to worry and reconsider. gl buddy
 

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plays as of wednesday:

2 units....buffalo (+25) over uconn
1 unit.....clemson (+4.5) tech
 

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clemson is a ood pick. the air might have went out of ga tech's tires after gut wrenching loss to fla st.


see we can agree once in a while. lol. gltu
 

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najeff:

can you still be reached at your nyc/hotmail email address? or do you have a new one? got a question for you. thanks
 

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G-man,becareful with the Bulls.Their defense is so bad.They have a decent Qb but no defense.DL,LB and CB's are all average or below.Colgate put 38 pts on the bd vs them last week.And Colgate is a D-1A school.{but a good one]
Conn is loaded.Only bad weather keeps them game under the spread.This has 55-10 written all over it.
Tread lightly...
 

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i know what you mean re: buffalo. theyre pretty damn pathetic. unfortunately im familiar with their program and a couple guys that have passed through. meaning no disrespect at all, but slight hyperbole to describe uconn as loaded. theyve made enormous strides and edsall is really doing a great job but theyre not used to this kind of spot, and i just think they really were jacked for last weeks boston college game and with tech on deck, i see uconn being flat. we'll see. as always, appreciate your feedback
 

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Live 5 minutes from UB stadium go to all their games--I am smashing Uconn--like your theory, just do not think it is valid--yet
 

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worm:

you really subject yourself to watching bulls game on a weekly basis? my god youre a brave man. please tell me youre alumni.
still think bulls cover- just surprised there are brave souls out there like yourself that will pay 10 or 15 bucks to watch that program.
 

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Got my MBA at UB.......I still have fun winning lots of $$$ betting against them....:) :D :cool:
 

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gman2, i have never had a hotmail address. what's this nyc thing? you have me confused with somebody else.

anyway, i'm not comfortable giving out my e-mail address. if you have a question for me, post it here. i will be more than happy to answer you.

good luck on your plays.
 

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najeff why do you bother with gman, this is about the 5th forum he has been at, at all the others he has been chased away for welching on bets, false records, and bashing. Why waste your time beating a dead horse?
 

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patron:

how many times are you going to come into my threads with this fuc/king bullsh1t. do you think if you think if you make up enough nonsense that people are going to beleive you or something? ive sent a memo to to moderator on this. this is getting fu/ckin stupid with you guys harrassing me.
 

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I sent one about you earlier, are you denying that you bet over 1K on college hoops with a guy at Wagertalk then when you tanked you stiffed the guy? I can post the text here to refresh your memory,
 

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patron:

you can post whatever you would like about me. you can trace my computer and post my home phone number. you can post my social security number. you can post the phone numbers of all my relatives. ive grown to realize some guys just get off on harrassing others.

if you have a problem with me posting my plays and information on the week's games, then by all means email jack. in fact, email him regularly telling him how you feel.

why is it that 99.9% of the people here dont have a problem with my plays and information? and ironically, the guys with less than 70 posts always are the ones harrassing?

its like if you make something up about me thats good enough, you hope maybe someone will believe your trash. if you really feel the need to pollute jack's forum with your bullsh1t and fiction, then do it.

get a life dude and stop obsessing over my posts

theres really not a whole lot more i can do. if jack and his moderators want to let guys like you stay and ruin his forums and harrass people, well then thats his choice.

:shrug: this is just getting beyond stupid. every week you come in my threads and make outlandish claims. you need to write for grocery store tabloids
 
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this is dumb

this is dumb

every week i look forward to the write ups and then every week you two clowns come in and take over the guy's thread. i don't know any of you from past "boards" or anything, but just let the guy post his plays. if you disagree, then post your plays (which would likely have some directly opposing his) in them. that way you can still show you were right/he was wrong without cluttering a good write up or two.

internet stalkers/obsessers make me laugh...

whatever happened must have been significant because you can't get these jokers off of you!
 
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