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3 unit....2-0 (+6.75 units)
2 unit....12-7 (+7.6 units)
1 unit....16-18 (-3.1 units)

2 units....east tennessee (-2) over iupui
2 units....butler (+6) over st.louis
1 unit......depaul (+10.5) over seton hall
1 unit......missouri/memphis 2h over 78.5

east tennessee......both these teams could be considered the class of their respective conferences. etsu should be carrying a 7-gm win streak into this game. they folded vs clemson (must we revisit :) ) but outplayed the tigers and should have won. and these teams are actually pretty similar. both have solid upperclassmen, both shoot the ball well, and both hit the glass extremely hard. im just a sucker for etsu's balance. wadood has been a double-double machine and all of their starters can score. no real drop-off. this is more of a play on etsu than it is against iupui. was just real impressed with etsu toward the end of last season. made a mental note to keep an eye out for em early on this year, as they returned all their talent that took wake forest to the wire in the big dance. worth noting that a handful of iupui's guys are real bricklayers from the line. four of their top 6 guys shoot under 63% from the line. etsu not only shoots a better % from the line, but they get to the line more frequently. they dont settle for jumpers. they should get this game by 5-7 points.

butler.....big surprise. im backing butler again. call it what you want, but they are proficient in every category thats important to me. they shoot the 3 well, shoot FTs well, have solid guard play, and are used to playing power conference foes. if youre looking for an explanation on how they lost to uwgb at home- i dont have it. totally inexplicable. but it doesnt scare me away from backing em as a dog vs a decent but hardly great st.louis squad. slu has had some good showing (particularly the arizona game) but i always look at them as a much better dog than chalk. of huge importance in this game is the fact that slu cant exploit butlers biggest weakness -- rebounding. both teams are poor rebounding teams. but butler is getting a good chunk of points vs a pretty mediocre st.louis team. with butler off to a rocky start, theres value here. i sound like a broken record here, but butler is a live dog. ill always grab a team that shoots 75% from the line and is a winning program like butler. will win more than i lose backing teams in this kind of spot and thats all i can ask for.

depaul....playing the percentages here. i think this game has an inflated number. seton hall has covered 4 straight. depaul has failed to cover 4 straight. really dont think pirates are 10.5 points better than depaul. i think theyre about 6-8 points better. i like the way depaul competed at michigan state. i know the spartans are nothing special this year, but thats not an easy place to play. only thing that scares me is that demons are a poor FT shooting team. you gotta knock FTs down away from home if you want to hang in games. im not gonna knock seton hall. theyre a program on the rise and theyve played well this yr. but this is still unchartered territory for them in recent years. this is their 4th straight game where theyre laying a good amount of points. i think complacency sets in and theyre gonna find themselves in a dogfight. depaul doesnt do anything out of the ordinary, but they are a team with lots of experience and upperclassmen. really feel like seton hall has played over their head a little the L3 gms. they havent been challenged lately and i think they come out a little flat.
 
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thanks gman looking at the Hall myself, was wondering if you could tell me why you like Depaul. thanks
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LOVE THAT ETSU GAME BUT THE GAME SCARES ME .I WOULD CONSIDER THAT SCARY SPREAD MATERIAL AND THERE FOR TAKE THE HALL.

BETS OF LUCK:)
 

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noticed that etsu went down briefly @ oly and then reappeared later @ -3. looks like they took a big enough hit to make them stop and take a look. i'm in @ -2. g/l.
 

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add: 1 unit....memphis/mizzou 2h over 78.5
pretty much an ideal setup. mizzou is an explosive team and now playing from behind. they gotta force the tempo. memphis is a physical team -should be lots of fouls in the 2h (both teams should be in the bonus around the 10:00 mark) and mizzou will be playing run-n-gun. if game was closer, would be a little more drawn out with some half court sets. not here. tigers should be playing at a breakneck pace in 2h, and memphis' acquiescence is likely.
 

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absolutely stupid play on memphis 2h over. really not even gonna be close. and this one is totally on me. made an impetuous decision without considering that both teams are mediocre free throw shooting teams to boot. memphis 60% from the FT line. deserve this L for sure.
 
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Depaul was up 2 with 7 min left and then let Seton Hall go on a 16-0 run to blow the cover:banghead: :cuss: :rant2:
 

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depaul up 59-57 with 7:30 to go.
scores 3 -- yes THREE -- points the rest of the game
seton hall closes game on a 19-3 run.
pirates 76-62 FINAL
not sure if i should laugh or be pissed.
 

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Wasting your dollars betting on Depaul they will not have much of a team until late in the season.
 

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Gman im with u on ETSU. I saw them play twice last yr and they got a good team. Wadood is a monster and should dominate inside. IUPUI has a good player in Crenshaw (i think he is still there) but they cant shoot well. I saw them twice last yr and they had 2 guys who could shoot, everyone else just ran around and was tossin up bricks... i got in at -2 last night, the line is now -4, so good call on getting it in early. I didnt play Depaul b/c they cant shoot, those guys are big athletes but cant shoot and go on cold streaks for hours lol but man u have hit like 15 of the last 20, keep it up

on ETSU and Butler (I took butler just b/c u did lol so hope it hits...)
 

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woizee:

gl tonight man. dont worry, butler should deliver the goods. big game for your terps tomorrow. fsu no longer an acc doormat. should be a good one.
 

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Hey gman just noticed ....

Hey gman just noticed ....

the total in SLU/Butler game is only 109 .... do you think it will really be that low scoring .... in my mind that total definitely helps validate your Butler +6 play .... any points in a game supposedly this low scoring should be a bonus .... gonna have to jump on Butler I believe. Thanks for your informative posts.
 

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for those on east tennessee, feel free to buy back your wager. i am unbelievably cold today. no shame in sayin 'the man' is hittin me with the ol' 1-2 combo today and my knees are wobbling. maybe i was overdue for a debacle. knew the last 5:00 of the depaul game would portend a disastrous day. if youve got etsu at 10:00, youve been warned.

btw- geno, for future reference - yeah there is something to be said for grabbing the points when the total is below 125 or so. points are at a premium in those games and dog usually worth a look. if you did indeed put any money on butler, my apology. im dropping them from my "play-on" list for awhile. garbage effort tonight.
 
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Gman the way I see it is that you are way too good of a capper to go 0-4 on the day. I had butler and it wasnt close but odds are you wont go 0-4 on the day. We shall see, but I am more confident on ETSU now.... hope it cashes.... i need this one to break even on the day... my prob was i was playing all the other bets small and i decided to get bigger today and lol well thats how things go... but hey if etsu covers then im at break even for the day

im very confident u will bounce back infact I know u will..... keep the plays coming....
 

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woizee:
thanks man. i know what you mean. like i said, just got a bad feeling about the day when depaul crumbled like that. obviously, id be very disappointed if etsu didnt come through. so far, that game (etsu/iupui) is up and down the court and is gonna have a ton of points. been listening on the radio.

you got an opinion on fsu/maryland tomorrow? seeing fsu (-2). can you imagine fsu bein a chalk over maryland even last year, let alone 2 or 3 years ago, lol? lots of interesting games tomorrow actually. just want to cash etsu, take a small hit for the day and move on.
 

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why am i not surprised east tennessee folded again.
this one rivals their collapse at clemson.
up double digits with 10:00 to go.
lose outright.

0-4 (-6.6 units)

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3 unit....2-0 (+6.75 units)
2 unit....12-9 (+3.2 units)
1 unit....16-20 (-5.3 units)


depaul collapses at noon. etsu collapses at midnight. nice bookends for the day.

goodnight boys. back tomorrow.
 
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thanks hellah. the butler and missouri over plays were just garbage plays by me. flat out terrible. the depaul and etsu games sting. both absolutely folded. no regrets on those. would bet em again tomorrow. just sucks when teams fold like that on the same day.

btw- your card held lots of promise. you deserved better than 1-1-1. miami had chances to cover. also, with green getting suspended for bonny just minutes before the game, that was brutal.

take care bud. goodnight
 
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