Senate votes to condem Moveon ad

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by large majority 75-25--note the few that voted no to condem it--(the far left) and the chickens who abstained.

Kudos to those that got it to a vote--to expose those that dance to the tune--"We bought you--we own you" says moveon--I say--ain't it the truth!

Nays voters
NAYs ---25
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 3
Biden (D-DE)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
 

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And that is why democrats can't figure out why people think they are weak. Hey dogs are you proud that these asshole republicans are playing politics and wasting all this time on garbage like this. Here you go dogs. Here is what some generals said about bekiss ass tray us. MOve on was right and took this phony general for what he is worth. Im just sorry the democrats are just to much of group of pussy's to fight. Read on Doggie.

CentCom Chief Fallon: Petraeus Is ?An Ass-Kissing, Little Chickensh*t,? ?I Hate People Like That?

fallon1231.gifDuring the Iraq war, the Central Command (CENTCOM) head ? who leads U.S. operations in the entire Middle East region ? and the Multinational Force Commander (MNF) have regularly testified together about the course of the war in Iraq.

Former-MNF Commander Gen. George Casey and his CENTCOM Commander Gen. John Abizaid constantly briefed Congress about the situation in Iraq and its regional effects. In at least four public hearings after Casey took office in 2004, the pair testified together:

In January, President Bush replaced Abizaid and Casey, who were ?surge? skeptics, with Adm. William Fallon and Gen. David Petraeus. This week, Petraeus ? in the first public hearings since taking on his new role ? delivered his Iraq assessment to great media fanfare. But where was his boss, Admiral Fallon? Inter-Press Service suggests animosity between the two might be one reason for Fallon?s absence:

Fallon told Petraeus [in March] that he considered him to be ?an ass-kissing little chickensh*t? and added, ?I hate people like that?, the sources say. That remark reportedly came after Petraeus began the meeting by making remarks that Fallon interpreted as trying to ingratiate himself with a superior.

The Washington Post reported this weekend that there is an internal military debate, described as ?Armageddon,? brewing between Petraeus and Fallon because the two men have ?profoundly different views of the U.S. role in Iraq.?

Sen. Jim Webb (D-VA) announced today that he will be asking Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) to call Fallon to testify on ?his views on the region.? Webb decried the lack of independence in Petraeus?s reporting, observing that there are ?a lot of control factors going on that haven?t been visible? from the one-sided testimony of Petraeus:

WEBB: [T]here?s something of a kabuki going on right now. You know, the Petraeus report was brought in. On the one hand they?re calling it independent; on the other, General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker, from my understanding, gave a one-hour exclusive interview to Fox News after their first day of testimony. [?]

So it was a very narrow and focused two days of hearings?we need to hear from people like Admiral Fallon and others to get a sense of how the region is in play. ? He was, by many accounts, questioning keeping these troop levels this high. [?]

So I?m going to be recommending to Senator Levin that we get Admiral Fallon in and get his views on the region.
 

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by large majority 75-25--note the few that voted no to condem it--(the far left) and the chickens who abstained.

Kudos to those that got it to a vote--to expose those that dance to the tune--"We bought you--we own you" says moveon--I say--ain't it the truth!

Nays voters
NAYs ---25
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 3
Biden (D-DE)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Obama (D-IL)
If this is the kind of stuff that gives you a hard on, you have problems... what was the purpose of this vote and how does it help America ? If it doesn't help America and move us in the right direction I don't care. This is more Anti American shit. Why do we pay these people ? The best thing that could happen in America : the next time terrorist hit us , I hope they don't kill innocent people. They could do us all a favor and take out the senate and the congress so we can start over.
 

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I can't believe the senate took time for something a week old. And I'm real peed at the 75 that voted as they did. Hey Senate stay the hell out of my right to free speech. And freedom of what could be called the press. Go do something that matters.
In fact take another month off. Forsure take the stop anything getting done Reb's with you.
 
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This is another example of how they play the American People for dummies. Every American should call their ass hole and tell them : don't waste my time and money playing me, you piece of shit ! Most stupid Americans will get out raged by mike vick but our leaders can spit in their faces and it goes unnoticed by the masses. Were is the out rage ????????????????????????? The fact that they even had this vote is a joke !!!! They are playing to the lowest common denominator. Great American Minds like DTB !
 

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0498 not 1498

0498 not 1498

I just called 1-800-828-0498. I asked if there was a number were I could call and leave a measage for The Rebulican senate. They transfered me to another ext, and I asked the same question She said she would be happy to pass my mesage on. My message was : why are you people wasting our time and money on votes like this ? How does this help America. Get to work and stop screwing around. She said alright , I'll be happy to pass that message along for you. I said, Thank you ! you have the number pass it on !
 
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Next week the Senate will tackle the Defense of Marriage Act.

In two weeks, we'll have No Flag Burning Amendment.

In three weeks, the Senate plans to vote on keeping the word "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance.

In four weeks, the House will tackle the issue of the Ten Commandments in public buildings

The sad part about this abortion is that most of the dumbfuhks who live in the sed states of the south and midwest consider these issues primary and continue to re-elect these clowns.. Give the republicans credit, they continue to make non-issues - issues.

Of course, all to the demise of the United States.

Eddie
 

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the number for the senate and the house for both parties is 202-224-3121

Al right Bray i called my democratic Senator and left a nice long message. Of course my Republican Senators mail box was full so i couldn't say anything to him but i will be on it. If i get in trouble will you call Eddie Haskel and tell him to look in all prisons in Pa for me since we gave up our right to counsel.
 

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Hey Dogs where was your outrage when this piece of shit president and his hatchet men slimmed Max Cleland? The swift boating of Kerry? This president has the balls to stand up there and say he was disgusted with this article when he allowed his hatchet men to slim those two individuals i just talked about? Do you realize how hypocritical you sound and how once again you are subject to a con job?
 

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Al right Bray i called my democratic Senator and left a nice long message. Of course my Republican Senators mail box was full so i couldn't say anything to him but i will be on it. If i get in trouble will you call Eddie Haskel and tell him to look in all prisons in Pa for me since we gave up our right to counsel.

good job... I don't care what you are for but we need to vote and tell other to and make phone calls. We have to let them know we are watching them..... get one person to call and tell them to get one person to call, Thanks !
 

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Before a single Democrat condemns MoveOn's ad, they should insist that George W. Bush and the Republican Party repudiate the anti-military smears on war heroes that have been the hallmark of Mr. Bush's political career.

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Too many Democrats still think Mr. Bush's presidency is on the level. Let's be clear. Mr. Bush is not leading a serious, sober discussion about public discourse during a war. He wants to divide progressives and score political points. We should not let him. Throughout his career he's been willing to tolerate and benefit from vicious lies about military men. We should not concede that he is legitimately angry now.
Mr. Bush is, as he likes to say, a loving guy. But by golly the MoveOn.org ad criticizing Gen. David Petraeus has him madder than Larry Craig in a pay toilet.
When a "reporter" asked him a loaded question about the MoveOn ad (not mentioning, for example, that Petraeus wrote an op-ed in support of the Bush Iraq policy a few weeks before the 2004 election), Bush swung for the fences. But then again, he's always been pretty good at T-Ball - and this was definitely teed up for him.
He slammed MoveOn, repeating language he used Wednesday in a meeting with right-wing columnists, saying that criticizing Petraeus is tantamount to attacking the entire US military, and expressing astonishment that leading Democrats have not attacked MoveOn as courageously as Bush has.
Before Democrats fall all over themselves to agree with a president whose trust and honesty rating from the American people is even lower than his IQ, let's look at the real record of Bush's cowardice when it comes to speaking out against attacks on military heroes:

* In the 2000 South Carolina primary, George W. Bush stood next to a man described as a "fringe" figure - a man who had attacked Bush's own father - at a Bush rally. With Bush applauding him, the man said John McCain "abandoned" veterans. McCain, who was tortured in a North Vietnamese POW camp, was incensed. Five U.S. Senators who fought in Vietnam, including Democrats John Kerry, Max Cleland and Bob Kerrey, condemned the attack and called on Bush to repudiate it. When pressed on it at a debate hosted by CNN's Larry King, Bush meekly muttered that he shouldn't be held responsible for what others say. Even when he's standing next to them at a Bush rally.
* In the 2002 campaign, draft dodger Saxby Chambliss ran an ad with pictures of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, then said Sen. Max Cleland lacked courage. Max Cleland left three limbs in Vietnam as an Army captain. Mr. Bush's political aide, Karl Rove, later refused to disavow the ad, saying, "President Bush and the White House don't write the ads for Senate candidates."
* Also in the 2002 campaign, the PAC for the Family Research Council, a close Bush ally, ran an ad in South Dakota that pictured Sen. Tom Daschle and Saddam Hussein. "What do Saddam Hussein and Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle have in common?" the ad asked. Apparently, they both opposed drilling in the Arctic wilderness. First, I had no idea that supporting drilling in the wilderness is a family values issue. Second, I have seen no reporting on the late Iraqi dictator's position on Alaska drilling. But I do know Tom Daschle is an Air Force veteran. Mr. Bush never disavowed the smear.
* But perhaps the worst was what was done to John Kerry. Kerry earned five major medals in combat: the Silver Star, the Bronze Star and three Purple Hearts. And yet supporters of Bush and Cheney decided to smear his war record. The despicable, dishonest Swift Boat attacks alleged that Kerry fabricated reports that earned him the Bronze Star. The Swifties also suggested that Kerry's wounds were insignificant - and that one was even self-inflicted. Kerry's wounds were certainly more serious than Mr. Bush's, who suffered a cut on his finger from popping a beer can while avoiding his duty in the Alabama National Guard. At the 2000 GOP convention, rich, white Republicans were photographed gleefully putting Band-Aids with purple hearts on their chubby cheeks. Mr. Bush refused to condemn the attack - blandly noting he didn't like 527 groups generally - and later nominated one of the men who financed the smear to be Ambassador to Belgium.

Mr. Bush is a coward and a bully. He knows he'll never be the kind of hero his father was. He knows he lacks the heroism of John Kerry or Max Cleland, so he overcompensates with bluster and bravado. In fact, he told bloggers recently that he wishes he were fighting in Iraq. The Washington Post's Dan Froomkin reported that Bush told a blogger in Iraq that he'd like to be carrying a 50-pound pack and an M-16, but, "One, I'm too old to be out there. And, two, they'd notice me."

So Mr. Bush is too old to fight in Iraq, and he was too rich and well-connected to fight in Vietnam. But he's itchin' for a fight with a progressive interest group. Does anyone believe he'd have the same outrage if a right-wing group were attacking war heroes? Of course not.


 

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AS times go on we find the hand picked General of Bush's may have not been totally straight. The numbers he was giving on improvements were for 1/3rd of the country of Iraq. Seems his boss, Admiral. (some one help me here I forgot his name) he has said 2/3rds of their country of Iraq is still a pile of chit. Of course he didn't say it that way. Just used those code words like unrest, murder, killing, civil altercations. Did the Gen for get this when he visited the congress. They always said you want real story, call it truth if you like. Ask the PFC's, Corporals, buck and staff Sargent's..
 

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Next week the Senate will tackle the Defense of Marriage Act.

In two weeks, we'll have No Flag Burning Amendment.

In three weeks, the Senate plans to vote on keeping the word "God" in the Pledge of Allegiance.

In four weeks, the House will tackle the issue of the Ten Commandments in public buildings

The sad part about this abortion is that most of the dumbfuhks who live in the sed states of the south and midwest consider these issues primary and continue to re-elect these clowns.. Give the republicans credit, they continue to make non-issues - issues.

Of course, all to the demise of the United States.

Eddie

Quite a telling list there Edward--anti military-flag burner-limp wristed-athiest.

Now convince us that your attributes are what the founding fathers had in mind--and how they forged America to what it is today.

Your a proverbial liberal poster child.

Bottom line how can you not respect your military leaders and be commander in chief--and have the militarys respect?

In addition if you can't handle heat from some left wing wacko group--how can you be pres

We bought you --we own you

--sad but true

Got news for Hilliary--won't make any diff in primaries-might help--but this little move will cost her big time in 08.
 
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Wayne:

Are you calling me a limp wristed atheist? You must have seen my golf game at the Sam Harris Open. Actually I'm thinking of running for village council in my little conservative Cincinnati burb on a platform of pro-gay rights, keep religion private and out of government and don't water down the Constitution with garbage like non-substantive amendments ie. anti-flag burning.

What do ya think? Now thats the work of government. In the meantime, Nero fiddles and Rome burns.

Eddie
 

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While I personally found MoveOn's ad to be in poor taste, I am not pleased that the Senate actually took the time to hold this ridiculous vote.

Yesterday, an organization so small its 17 employees don't even have a central office, found itself under attack by not only President Bush, who said the ad was "disgusting," but also by the Democratic-controlled Senate, which passed a resolution 72 to 25 expressing its own outrage. Many Democrats blamed the group for giving moderate Republicans a ready excuse for staying with Bush and for giving Bush and his supporters a way to divert attention away from the war.

In an e-mail to its members last night, the group acknowledged that the content of the ad might have angered its allies but argued that a larger issue is at stake. "Maybe you liked our General Petraeus ad. Maybe you thought the language went too far," they wrote. "But make no mistake: this is much bigger than one ad."

And it turned its criticism squarely back on the Senate, accusing it of "spending time cracking down on a newspaper ad" after failing on Wednesday to pass a bill lengthening the home leaves of U.S. troops fighting in Iraq, a bipartisan measure that some regarded as pressuring Bush into limiting the redeployment of U.S. forces.
 

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While I personally found MoveOn's ad to be in poor taste, I am not pleased that the Senate actually took the time to hold this ridiculous vote.

I going to have to respectfully disgree with you on this one Gregg.

My reasoning--campaigns are ran on spin from both sides--

If I'm going to look objectively about voting for a candidate--its not going to be what they want me to hear at the time--but I will look at how they really feel by issues of importance to me that they voted on in past.

That is why I like them being put on record on this issue of supporting our miltary which I think is very key issue --especially in these times.

Will be very hard for Hilliary to spin any attempt that she is qualified to be commander and chief of armed forces in the future--the public now has her going on record of where her support lies.
 
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