Shep Smith calls out Trump for lying on voter fraud: ?List of falsehoods is growiing'

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In a topsy turvy Trumperdink world, Fox news appears to have transformed into the voice of reason. Strange days are coming....

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Fox News anchor Shep Smith took on President Donald Trump?s voter fraud claims on Wednesday, Jan. 25 in a segment with A.B. Stoddard, an associate editor with RealClearPolitics.

?It is the reporting of Fox News that widespread voter fraud did not happen,? Smith said. ?There?s no evidence that widespread voter fraud happened, there never has been.? Stoddard agreed there is no evidence of voter fraud, questioning how much money such an investigation handled at the federal level will cost tax payers.

?If this was the biggest, most widespread voter fraud ever, why wouldn?t he investigate it? It seemed as if that was the response this morning so that Sean Spicer wouldn?t have to continue to answer questions about that,? Stoddard said. ?The list of falsehoods from the president is growing,? Smith replied, asking about the cumulative effect of his lies.

Stoddard commented on Trump?s preoccupation with his inauguration crowd size. ?It?s really unfortunate with all of the flurry of activity that he?s embarked on in terms of policy measures this week that he has stepped on his own story about the crowd assessments that were demonstrably false and sending his press secretary out to lie on Saturday night.?

?It hinders his credibility around the world and the credibility of our democracy,? said Stoddard.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/shep-smith-calls-out-trump-for-lying-on-voter-fraud-the-list-of-falsehoods-is-growing/
 

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According to study done by political scientist from ODU over 800k illegals voted for the criminal HRC. Everyone one of them should be thrown out of the country within 30 days.
Illegals cannot vote. Shep Smith was having a bad day because Milo won't give him an interview.
Trump is just getting started. You are going to hate these next 8 years.
 

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Trump is, in many ways, a much more confident personality than Nixon was. Yet his insecurities are more vividly on display than the Old Man?s were. This week he fretted operatically about press reports that he had drawn a smaller inaugural crowd than other presidents in recent years.

He compensated, as Nixon always did, by taking total control of the United States? ?great power? diplomacy, handling it himself to the exclusion of all but a tiny group of his own White House aides. Trump communicated this week with Mexico and President Enrique Pe?a Nieto (making a complete hash of the situation), with the U.K. and Prime Minister Theresa May, and with Russia and President Vladimir Putin.

Trump has said he has no interest in multilateral deals and institutions because they can restrict U.S. freedom of action with a host of partners. But the real reason he prefers bilateral deals, as did Nixon, is that he can be the star.

In the 1970s, scholar Arthur Schlesinger dubbed this grasping of Oval Office power ?The Imperial Presidency.? Democrats abhorred the idea, but Nixon hardly minded the critique. In fact, in 1970 he had the White House Secret Service detail outfitted in uniforms that looked like they had been lifted from a museum of the Austro-Hungarian Empire.

Trump will probably go for something more casino-style, but we aren?t quite there yet. Let?s see what Week 2 brings.
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it figures that Trump would love Nixon

and this article says he is already worse than Nixon

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According to study done by political scientist from ODU over 800k illegals voted for the criminal HRC. Everyone one of them should be thrown out of the country within 30 days.
Illegals cannot vote. Shep Smith was having a bad day because Milo won't give him an interview.
Trump is just getting started. You are going to hate these next 8 years.

Where's the evidence? You can't get 1/2 the population to vote, but apparently, hundreds of thousands of illegals are willing to risk their stay here to vote. It's not logical, but nothing you fellas are passionate about ever is. Fuck the other studies that say voter fraud doesn't exist, there's a dude on Twitter that says it does. Affirmation over information, lol.
 

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Where's the evidence? You can't get 1/2 the population to vote, but apparently, hundreds of thousands of illegals are willing to risk their stay here to vote. It's not logical, but nothing you fellas are passionate about ever is. Fuck the other studies that say voter fraud doesn't exist, there's a dude on Twitter that says it does. Affirmation over information, lol.

He's referring to a study (2012) by Jesse Richman et al from Old Dominion University which concluded possible voting fraud from non-citizens. The only problem is that the study has been criticized by many other academics as being flawed due to the methods that they used.

FYI: Old Dominion is ranked below the top-200 research institutes worldwide.

Here's a simplified version as reported in the Washington Post.

Trump wants to investigate purported mass voter fraud. We pre-debunked his evidence

Yet again, Donald Trump is claiming that the reason that he lost the popular vote was because of millions of illegal votes. He is threatening a mass investigation. When pressed for evidence to back up Trump?s beliefs,

Sean Spicer, the White House Press Secretary, claimed that there was a study ?out of Pew in 2008 that showed 14 percent of people who have voted were not citizens.?

Mr. Spicer is mixing up his studies ? the Pew research that he is referring to says nothing of the sort. There is a study by political scientists Jesse Richman, Gulshan Chattha, and David Earnest that purports to use data from a large national survey ? the Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES) ? to show that some 14% of non-citizens are registered to vote. President Trump has previously referred to this study in public as evidence of illegal voting. Unfortunately for President Trump and Mr. Spicer, the study is wrong.

Richman, Chattha and Earnest?s study was summarized at The Monkey Cage and provoked three rebuttals (here, here, and here) as well as a response from the authors.

After this exchange, we published a peer-reviewed piece arguing that this study is wrong and that there is absolutely no evidence from the data that non-citizens voted in recent presidential elections.

We argue that the findings in the Richman et al. article can be entirely explained by measurement error. Specifically, survey respondents occasionally select the incorrect response to a question merely by accident.

In 2012, we re-interviewed 19,000 respondents who had originally taken the CCES survey in 2010. We asked about a respondent?s citizenship status in both 2010 and 2012. A very large fraction (99.25 percent) of respondents indicated that they were citizens in both waves of the survey. Only 85 respondents said they were non-citizens in both waves.

But the remaining 56 respondents actually changed their response between 2010 and 2012 ? including 20 who responded that they were citizens in 2010 but non-citizens in 2012, a highly unrealistic change.

Thus, it appears as though about 0.1-0.3 percent of respondents are citizens who incorrectly identify themselves as non-citizens in the survey. With a sample size of 19,000, even this low rate of error can result in a number of responses that appear notable when they are not. The mistake that Richman and his colleagues made was to isolate this small portion of the sample and extrapolate from it as if it were representative of some larger population.

Given the extremely low rate of voting among purported ?non-citizens? described in the Richman et al. article, it is almost certainly the case that all of the non-citizen voters that they report are actually citizen voters who simply clicked the wrong box on the survey.

Indeed, especially telling is this: Of the 85 respondents who said they were non-citizens in both 2010 and 2012, there was not a single voter. In other words, among the group of respondents who we can actually be confident are non-citizens, none voted.

Thus the best estimate of the percentage of non-citizens who vote is zero.

Unfortunately, Richman et al. failed to account for the fact that even very low rates of measurement error on the citizenship question would bias their estimates of voting among this small group of respondents.

Even more unfortunate is the fact that the Trump White House is now using this debunked result to validate his claims about a rigged election.

Stephen Ansolabehere is professor of government at Harvard University.

Samantha Luks is a managing director at YouGov.

Brian Schaffner is professor of political science at the University of Massachusetts-Amherst.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/10/19/trump-thinks-non-citizens-are-deciding-elections-we-debunked-the-research-hes-citing
 

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The guy that convinced Trump that millions of people voted illegally against him is registered to vote in 3 states and is accused of tax fraud. :mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07::mj07:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/01/30/trump-voter-fraud-expert/97268306/

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/kfile-gregg-phillips/index.html

was listed on the rolls in Alabama, Texas and Mississippi, according to voting records and election officials in those states. He voted only in Alabama in November, records show


I ONLY CLICKED ON ONE LINK, I ASSUME IT 'S THE SAME COMPARISON?

iT WOULD BE A STORY IF HE VOTED twice OR three TIMES?

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was listed on the rolls in Alabama, Texas and Mississippi, according to voting records and election officials in those states. He voted only in Alabama in November, records show


I ONLY CLICKED ON ONE LINK, I ASSUME IT 'S THE SAME COMPARISON?

iT WOULD BE A STORY IF HE VOTED twice OR three TIMES?

:facepalm:

Yeah, nothing fishy there. Nothing fishy about his $100k in back taxes either. He's a fraud, and our President ate up all the shit he was shoveling.
 

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Maybe Sissy Shep can testify for the poor stupid illegal Mexican that is looking at 8 yr term for voting .
 

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