Should Nathaniel Heatwole be jailed or rewarded?

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This one is a bit tough to deal with. Should Nathaniel Heatwole be jailed or rewarded? Heatwole didn't feel that the Transportation Security Administration was doing an adequate job of screening passengers boarding commercial airlines. To prove his point he hid caches of box cutters, bleach and modeling clay shape to look like explosives onto about six Southwest Airlines planes. He then wrote a letter to the TSA telling them what he had done. The materials remained hidden in the airplane bathrooms for five weeks while the TSA sat on its haunches and ignored Heatwole's letters.

Finally one of the caches was found by a maintenance worker, the Heatwole letter surfaced, and Nathaniel Heatwole was arrested and will be charged.

Maybe the real lesson here is that there is really no politically correct way for officials to make sure that nobody manages to secret weapons onto an airliner. It's time to play this game the way the world's best do ... by looking for terrorists instead of weapons. That means profiling. We won't do that, though, and will eventually end up sacrificing American lives to the gods of political correctness.
 

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Political Correctness = :bs:

This is typical, they are now only concerned about this guy because he embarrassed them. When they thought he was only shittin em with the letter they thought nothing of it.......But! Having found this too actually be true and obviously being pissed that someone other than a team of "experts" found their goof, now they want to prosecute the guy! I say give him a damn job and let him help them!
 

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It BLOWS MY MIND all the press coverage is focusing on him and how he broke the law and should he be in prison or not. These are the debates on tv. HELLLLLOOOOO!!!! How about we debate the miserable job the TSA is doing and more importantly HOW HE MANAGED TO GET A BAG FULL OF BOXCUTTERS on more than one plane in the first place! Shouldnt THAT be the governments focus? I would rather they focus on fixing the loophole he exploited than arresting some bored college kid.
 

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Hey Ace, It's been a while since we've heard anything about the Plame scandal in Washington.

The Plame scandal, you say?


What is that?


See ... told you so!
 

gardenweasel

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i hope he`s a hero

i hope he`s a hero

because i`m thinking of smuggling some guns into a bank and leaving them there so i can show that bank security isn`t up to snuff....i`m trying to become famous and become a radio talk show host....like this young idiot...

hellllooo!!!!!....you guys are kidding,right?....

people bitch about being rousted at airports.....people bitch because some little moron smuggles "boxcutters" and phony plastic explosives onto a plane....people bitch and bitch because they can...

what`s it gonna be?....you get "el al" like security that basically slows airport scheduling to a crawl,but is very effective....or,you do the best you can while ruffling as few feathers as possible and keeping the aclu off your ass for violating someone`s "rights"?

it`s o.k. to break the law depending on your motive and your age?....

pretty soon you`ll have young terrorists smuggling bombs and weapons onto planes....these fanatics aren`t stupid...

we`re opening pandora`s box.....
 

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yes he broke a major law , jail no it lets everyone out there see that nothing is really changed except a bunch of bs words, i flew us air back home from pittsburgh to vegas 2 months ago, that plane not only did not have the new door like i have seen on delta and america with the mess in front , but it was also opend 3 times during the flight which i thought was not to happen? nothing has changed i had a letter opener that looks like a pen in my pc bag forgot it was there but never the less it went through, and it has a 3 inch blade on it with a sharp point . so all they have done is bs the people and make it look like it has changed hell xray the bags going under the plane like in england or isrial i want to know if my plane goes down it is not do to something that was brought on or caused by a person with intent. my snuff can goes off but a letter opener does not just because it looks like a wooden pen?
 

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pretty soon you`ll have young terrorists smuggling bombs and weapons onto planes....these fanatics aren`t stupid...

Good point.............BECAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN DO IT! With the way security is now, smoke and mirrors, they sure will be trying this! Now if there were some way for them to understand that there is no way in hell to get this crap in the airport, let alone on the plane, then that may just be a possible deterent for some of these dickwads!
 

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I don't know about you guys, but given the precedent of 9/11, I doubt it will be very easy for someone with box-cutters or simple blades to hijack a plane. I believe that any mofo trying to pull that kind of stunt (even several) will have the crap beaten out of them before they can say "In the name of Allah" (or insert own casue). Now folks know the possible consequences and will get more involved sooner.

Focus should be more geared towards explsives and/or chemicals that can produce explosives/detonators, handguns, large knives, etc. In other words, apparatus which can be dangerous if being handled by one single individual.

Creativeness has to be a big part of security now and they have to think like the madmen (women) in order to be a step ahead of those who ponder day after week after year about ways to kill people in a spectacular fashion.

As for this kid, he broke the law so have him punished. But also heed the warning coming from his actions. In the business involving the safety of the population you CAN have your cake and eat it too.
 

gardenweasel

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let me ask you gents a hypothetical question

let me ask you gents a hypothetical question

what if this "fine young man" gets caught the first time he`s smuggling these sundry items onto a plane......what`s he say?...."i`m just testing security to make sure that this plane is secure".......

now what if "osama haven bin laid" get caught doing the same thing?....and uses the same excuse....

are they treated equally?.....does the kid go to jail?...i mean,he`s 20 years old...he`s a man.....isn`t this a felony?....


is it just a question of getting caught?.....is it a question of your nationality?...

let the civil libertarians get their hands on that one......

you just can`t let people flaunt the law and get away with it because of who they are or their alleged motives...which i might add were more for the publicity than any noble crusade....

ridiculous..
 

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It's easy make his penalty he has to work for the TSA for a year with out pay. Maybe the dumb TSA can learn from some freash ideas.
 
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