Snapshot of USC's schedule
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Good god,
That's a pretty easy schedule. I'm sure we'll here from Scott about how difficult it is :mj07: :mj07:
I'll say this before hand because I know I'm going to be thinking and saying it later.....
Gimme a f$#%ing break :mj07:
kneifl
That's a pretty easy schedule. I'm sure we'll here from Scott about how difficult it is :mj07: :mj07:
I'll say this before hand because I know I'm going to be thinking and saying it later.....
Gimme a f$#%ing break :mj07:
kneifl
do you when football schedules are made?
i do feel their defense/kicker will be too inexperienced to 3-pete this year...
i do feel their defense/kicker will be too inexperienced to 3-pete this year...
Tough to argue those facts. We all know USC is playing a soft schedule, but I see them losing at least one game. Too many ??? on defense imo. Seems like their DL is thinning out rapidly.
Good post wareagle. I found it interesting.
Who puts credibility into pre-season coaching poll? I assume that is what you used to determine ranking of opponents in your chart. EVERYONE knows that the SEC is always over-rated in pre-season polls and ALWAYS ranked higher than they should. But you all put credibility into a coaches poll?
Since posters here want to compare these other teams schedule to USC, I will play.
Texas plays OU and OSU, 2 teams that are prob. tougher than all of USC's opponents. Props to Texas for playing OSU on road! I am not sure I would say Texas's schedule is tougher but they def. play more elite teams. As far as I can tell from pre-season.
TN has a tougher schedule than USC. Playing @FL and @LSU is tough. I also give them props for playing @ND for OOC. Good schedule.
I think USC plays a tougher schedule than Michigan. At the very least on par. Especially when you see that Michigan only plays 4 road games. That is not difficult to do, only playing on the road 4 times all year and starting the season with 3 straight home games.
I don't think OU has a tougher schedule than USC. I would argue USC has the tougher schedule. OU only plays 4 road games.
LSU plays some good teams but all are at home. So that is not nearly as tough. Home games are so much easier to win vs road games. LSU only plays 4 road games all year mostly against $hit competition. Don't overlook LSU also starting the season with 3 straight home games.
Again, I don't know why anybody here would put much stock into a pre-season coaches poll. Especially when the #1 criteria in getting ranked in these polls are wins, NOT SOS! NOT home/away games! A team could play 6 straight $hit teams, jump to a 6-0 record and get ranked in the top 25. Maybe even a high ranking. I do not put much credibility in these polls. Especially pre-season polls. Oh yeah, don't forget USC is the only team the media across the country respect out west. That is not right. Not saying more pac 10 schools need to be ranked in the top 10 ortop 25 etc in this particular pre-season poll, but there def. is a clear bias against west coast schools with the exception of USC. Any CFB fan who follows ALL OF CFB would agree. So much data to prove this statement. But one easy explanation is TV exposure with west coast teams playing so late.
Who puts credibility into pre-season coaching poll? I assume that is what you used to determine ranking of opponents in your chart. EVERYONE knows that the SEC is always over-rated in pre-season polls and ALWAYS ranked higher than they should. But you all put credibility into a coaches poll?
Since posters here want to compare these other teams schedule to USC, I will play.
Texas plays OU and OSU, 2 teams that are prob. tougher than all of USC's opponents. Props to Texas for playing OSU on road! I am not sure I would say Texas's schedule is tougher but they def. play more elite teams. As far as I can tell from pre-season.
TN has a tougher schedule than USC. Playing @FL and @LSU is tough. I also give them props for playing @ND for OOC. Good schedule.
I think USC plays a tougher schedule than Michigan. At the very least on par. Especially when you see that Michigan only plays 4 road games. That is not difficult to do, only playing on the road 4 times all year and starting the season with 3 straight home games.
I don't think OU has a tougher schedule than USC. I would argue USC has the tougher schedule. OU only plays 4 road games.
LSU plays some good teams but all are at home. So that is not nearly as tough. Home games are so much easier to win vs road games. LSU only plays 4 road games all year mostly against $hit competition. Don't overlook LSU also starting the season with 3 straight home games.
Again, I don't know why anybody here would put much stock into a pre-season coaches poll. Especially when the #1 criteria in getting ranked in these polls are wins, NOT SOS! NOT home/away games! A team could play 6 straight $hit teams, jump to a 6-0 record and get ranked in the top 25. Maybe even a high ranking. I do not put much credibility in these polls. Especially pre-season polls. Oh yeah, don't forget USC is the only team the media across the country respect out west. That is not right. Not saying more pac 10 schools need to be ranked in the top 10 ortop 25 etc in this particular pre-season poll, but there def. is a clear bias against west coast schools with the exception of USC. Any CFB fan who follows ALL OF CFB would agree. So much data to prove this statement. But one easy explanation is TV exposure with west coast teams playing so late.
Everybody for the last 2 years talks about USC's so-called soft schedule. Then they go into BCS games and kick ass. Maybe they should revise the criteria once again so USC won't get the weak opponenets in bowl games any more.
LSU was clearly better than Mich 2 seasons ago, especially on defense. Last season, Auburn was a better team than OU. I think USC does no better than 1-1 the last 2 Bowls had they played the LSU and Auburn.
Cie Grant said:
The majority felt OU was better than AU. That is why OU played USC in the OB. Just because USC spanked OU, doesn't mean AU is better than OU. Lastly, OU played a tougher SOS than AU. Not too many arguments can be made for AU.
Cie Grant said:
LSU beat OU in the BCS NC game with OU playing SLOPPY! Very sloppy! Penalties and turnovers. For a BCS NC game, both teams IMO looked sloppy. That ended up being a very close game and actually could have gone either way. OU had chance to tie it (orwin it) at the end of the 4th quarter. Yes LSU defense played well but don't forget White was playing with a injured hand/wrist on his throwing hand. What if White was 100%? Throughout that game OU had open WR's that White never got the ball too. Mostly because LSU put so much pressure on him (which I love). But who is the better QB? Leinart? Injured White? BTW, USC's OL was much better than OU's in giving pass protection. Who is the better coach? Carroll? Stoops? Pete Carroll teams do not play sloppy at the end of the season, much less BOWL GAMES! 3 straight years of data to prove that! I think LSU loses and maybe loses big against USC. Most media felt USC was the #1 team that year with LSU 2nd. Because of the BCS, both get shared NC. I guess a happy ending for both teams since it has been a long time since either team won it all.
Ivan Maisel: (1:46 PM ET ) All I know is that Auburn approached Notre Dame and Michigan to play a home-and-home and was rebuffed by both. Maybe if Auburn changed it's name and threw a direction in there (East Alabama State?), they could get one of those Yankee schools to come down.
not too many arguments could be made for auburn???
i thought having the best defense in the country and week in and week out being the most dominating team in the land makes for a valid argument.
osc
i thought having the best defense in the country and week in and week out being the most dominating team in the land makes for a valid argument.
osc
Please. The sloppiness to which you refer was actually the BEST college defense in the last decade holding OU to under 150 yards of offense. Domination for most of the game.
What do I care about what "most media" thinks?? Listening to most media would cause me to lose my bankroll every season.
The point here is simple. USC plays a much softer schedule than most other top programs this season. I feel they are fortunate in this regard, because their defense will not be anywhere near championship caliber this season imo.
wareagle said:
Yeah - Like ND always play teams like East Alabama St. :mj07: Gimme a friggin break. ND doesn't need to toughen up their schedule. They need to tone it down a little.
Cie Grant said:
Based on what? Top 25 rankings?
USC doesn't have the strongest schedule in the country but without a doubt it ranks in the top 30 of CFB. That my friend is not an easy schedule. Especially when you LOOK at 6 away games USC has to play with most of them against the top teams from the conf. As of right now, there are not "powerhouses" on USC's schedule but there are a boat load of good teams and USC has to play many of them on the road! SEC folks don't understand the difference between playing on the road vs at home. I will never understand this. Maybe because the teams in that conf. don't travel.
That game was sloppy on both sides of the ball. What great offenses did that LSU defense have to stop? I know LSU didn't play any team with an offense close to USC's that year. No doubt LSU's defense was awesome but was not tested against powerful balanced offenses. Against OU, LSU defense was fortunate to play against a QB who was badly injured. Not to mention KSU shut down OU offense better than that LSU defense. So where is the data to show the LSU defense being the best in the decade? Stats? Against what competition? To be considered the best defense in the last decade, I would like to see that defense stop a powerful "sophisticated" offense. Not saying LSU D couldn't or wouldn't stop a powerful sophisticated balanced offense. SEC offenses tend to be rush oriented and not sophisticated. No denying that. It is the the style of play and I am actually a fan of teams who love to pound the ball. LSU didn't play anyone tough in OOC play. So where were they tested? I would have loved to seen LSU vs USC that year. Would have been a good one and I give USC the edge only because USC defense was better than the LSU offense. LSU defense was awesome and the USC offense was awesome. Both cancel each out out. That would be the difference IMO.
oldschoolcapper
When comparing them against OU. No doubt AU was an elite team last year and deserved a chance at a National Championship. It sucked that there were 3 undefeated teams. But the funny thing is all 3 teams had chances to lose last year.
Best defense against what offenses? You learn nothing from OOC play. In conf. play how many great offenses did they face? How many home games did AU play? Not saying AU didn't have a great defense, I just don't think they were tested too often last year.
I really would have loved to seen Auburn destroy V-Tech in their bowl game like USC destroyed OU. I guess it is not AU's style and Tubby had a lot to do with it but you need to win convincingly when there is not playoff system. I am not talking about running up the score late in the 4th.
wareagle
ND is not afraid to play anybody and they prob. turned down AU because there schedule is already filled. Every year ND plays one of the toughest schedules in the country and is not afraid to travel.
Auburn should have played USC last year. They had their chance and they went another route. USC was looking for 2 OOC opponents and nobody wanted to play. Finally V-Tech and CSU stepped up to the plate and this was months before the season. VERY LATE! Without a doubt, AU could have been one of those 2 teams. Maybe AU would have cost USC a NC because USC was very vulnerable early in the season due to inexperience. New OL, new WR's, new FB, new TE etc. Only 3 returning starters on offense.
Not even maybe.Scott4USC said:
While Oklahoma plays only four road games, USC plays six against such powerhouse teams as Hawaii, Oregon, Arizona State, Notre Dame, Washington and California.
Oklahoma?s yearly game against Texas is in Dallas and while it may have seemed so lately, it is not a home game and is against tougher competition that any of UCS?s games. Away games at UCLA and Texas Tech are hardly cake walks.
Every team in the Big 12 South plays a tougher schedule than USC.
Every team in the Big 12 South plays a tougher schedule than USC.
The Big 12 South has turned into a beast with the improvements at Tech, A@M and OSU! You have to feel bad for Baylor since even though they have upgraded their program in the past couple of years it must seem like there is no light at the end of tunnel being in the South Division.
The Big 12 South has turned into a beast with the improvements at Tech, A@M and OSU! You have to feel bad for Baylor since even though they have upgraded their program in the past couple of years it must seem like there is no light at the end of tunnel being in the South Division.
The idea of improvements at AM is a sham. They may have a better record as they will actually beat Baylor but folks given them a chance to win the conference need to put down the crack pipe. They will finish 4th in the South.
The Judge said:
@Oregon, @ASU, @ND, and @CAL are 4 very tough road games. Especially the road environment of Oregon and ND. + ND is a rivalry game. Playing 4 very tough road games is TOUGH! In addition, USC plays a total of 6 road games! With your argument of Texas not really being a home game, well I could argue UCLA is not really a home game for USC. UCLA fans live right next door to USC fans. So make that 6 road games and 1 neutral game!
No arguments from me. Texas is better and more talented than all of the teams USC plays on their schedule. I am sorry, but that alone doesn't make OU have a tougher SOS.
Is that so? Based on what?
Based on the simple fact that the teams in the Big 12 South have to play each other. Out of the six teams in the South, four are ranked in the pre-season Top 25. The ranked teams that USC plays are Arizona State and Cal. You can save the "pre-season rankings don't mean anything" response because in the case of the four Big 12 teams, I am confident that they all belong.Scott4USC said:
Certainly the environment playing at Oregon is something teams have to prepare for but I am not sure I would call it any tougher of a game than half of the teams in the Big 12 North.
There should be no argument that the "tough" road game at ND that you mention has cetainly lost some of its luster with the recent teams the Irish have fielded.
