So, we are to believe Zimmerman's account of what happened?

Chadman

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Who knows what actually happened the night of Trayvon's death, but we are learning more about the honesty and truthfulness of Zimmerman and Company...

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George Zimmerman Was Busted by Recorded Phone Calls
By Connor Simpson | The Atlantic Wire ? 16 mins ago

An Orlando judge revoked George Zimmerman's bond yesterday and ordered him to return to jail. Prosecutors alleged Zimmerman, along with his wife Shelley, misled the court over their financial situation during a bond hearing. ThinkProgress obtained the prosecutors' motion that shows exactly how the Zimmermans deceived the court, and how their phone conversations while he was in jail busted them.

The motion shows that Shelley Zimmerman testified on April 20 that she didn't know how much money was raised through Zimmerman's paypal donations, and "to [her] knowledge" they wouldn't be able to afford a bond payment. In transcripts from recorded conversations that took place while George was still in jail a week before, George instructs Shelley to go to the bank and take control of his account. In another call, Shelley is at the bank and the teller takes the phone to get a security code from George so he could authorize Shelley's control of the account. Shelley even says at one point, "Not going to say any personal information since it's recorded." It does appear that the Zimmermans did speak in some kind of "code," like the prosectors said yesterday. Bank statements show the family had access to $135,000 in cash on the day before the bond hearing, but their conversations never speak in denominations over $100.

In regards to Zimmerman's passport mix up, the motion uses state department records to prove the existence of a second passport. Records show Zimmerman applied for a second passport in 2004 because the passport he surrendered to the judge "was lost or stolen." Zimmerman was granted a new passport that wouldn't expire until 2014. In a recorded phone call from a few days before the April 20 bond hearing, George and Shelley talked about the passport:

Defendant: Do you know what? I think my passport is in that bag.
Shelley Zimmerman: I have one for you in a safety deposit box...
Defendant: OK, you hold on to that.
Shelley Zimmerman: For you...

It's going to be pretty difficult for Zimmerman's attorney to argue he's not a flight risk now. Zimmerman has yet to turn himself in, and has an active passport.

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Chad,

The Zim has certainly stepped on his proverbial dick on this, however, his dishonesty about his funds is unrelated to the happenings of 26FEB12.

It does show a record that he and his wife had the intent, the possibilty of fleeing the country.

It is a gigantic leap from his financial mistruths to what had happened that evening.
 

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Obama On Trayvon Martin Case: 'If I Had A Son, He'd Look Like Trayvon'

Maybe he thought with this President mouthing off, he was going to get RailRoaded.

JMO
 

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Obama On Trayvon Martin Case: 'If I Had A Son, He'd Look Like Trayvon'

Maybe he thought with this President mouthing off, he was going to get RailRoaded.

JMO

Either that or he thought Skulnutz was going to be on the Defense Team? :shrug:
 

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Or he is me?

And KOD is TU ...

and TU is Trench,

and Trench is Stevie D !

You caught us Clouseau !


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F-U STEVE MARTIN FOR THINKING YOU COULD PULL THIS OFF !
 

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I don't know if it's a gigantic leap of any kind. We don't know what happened that night. We have one side of the story, that seems to have changed more than once based on what the one side has said. And we will be asked to believe what the one side says moving forward to try to determine what actually happened that night.

I think an ongoing pattern of not telling the truth or changing one's story does have a bearing on what we or a jury could or will believe, and it's not a leap to wonder about what the Zimmerman crew has to say about anything.

I don't think the family would be fleeing to avoid prosecution or facing the music, but it does show premeditation and planning to avoid things. IMO.
 

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I don't know if it's a gigantic leap of any kind. We don't know what happened that night. We have one side of the story, that seems to have changed more than once based on what the one side has said. And we will be asked to believe what the one side says moving forward to try to determine what actually happened that night.

I think an ongoing pattern of not telling the truth or changing one's story does have a bearing on what we or a jury could or will believe, and it's not a leap to wonder about what the Zimmerman crew has to say about anything.

I don't think the family would be fleeing to avoid prosecution or facing the music, but it does show premeditation and planning to avoid things. IMO.

If I could predict yesterday, I would be very rich :0074

If I could fix the things I have overstated, "Gigantic Leap" is certailny a "Gigantic Overstatement!" :toast:

He is scared of something, could it be the wanted dead or alive posters by the New Black Panthers that motivated him to want to scoot? It could be many reasons, and as you had stated about the Trayvon issue, only one person knows the truth.

What we have learned from the John Edwards trial is that any dirt bag can get off by leaving a certain amount of doubt in the juries mind.

Again, what happened in Feb, and lying about Funds are two different issues. Lying to a Judge, bad JuJu, but Roger Clemens seems to be pulling that off. :shrug:

Most of us, the ones who are capable of independent thinking, we all know who that is..... have come to the conclusion that we cannot convict or aquit this case by a public jury.
 
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