Stanzi out with high ankle sprain

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IOWA CITY, Iowa -- Iowa quarterback Ricky Stanzi was taken to the locker room after suffering a sprained ankle in the Hawkeyes' (No. 4 BCS, No. 8 AP) 17-10 loss to Northwestern.


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Head coach Kirk Ferentz said X-rays were negative, but it doesn't look good for him to play next week.

"The bad news is it's a severe sprain," Ferentz said. "My guess is he'll be out of action here the next couple weeks."

"If they've X-rayed it, I've got to think it's fairly serious. ... It takes time for those things to get right. ... Right now we have to take the approach that he won't go, and if he does, that's a bonus."

Stanzi was drilled by Corey Wootton in the end zone, and his fumble was recovered by Marshall Thomas for a touchdown that brought Northwestern within 10-7.

Stanzi was limping as he was helped off the field. He was replaced by redshirt freshman James Vandenberg, whose first pass was intercepted.

Later in the game, Northwestern quarterback Dan Persa suffered a hand injury and and never returned.

Stanzi was 4 of 9 for 134 yards with a touchdown and an interception before leaving the game. He came into the game 17-3 as the starter since taking over the middle of last season.
 

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I just can't see Iowa scoring much at Ohio State with a red shirt freshman as QB and Ohio States great defense. Hell they shut down Penn State at Penn State. I think if Iowa socres it will be a defense TD or getting the ball near the goal line after a turnover. To me the -13' (I bet it last nite) looks easy-of course what do I know?? I can't remember a tougher year betting sides in college footall as this year has been.
 

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Everything worked out for Iowa to one of my larger plays of the season, except the stanzi injury..

I was thinking a healthy and mentally tough Iowa team would be a sweet play +11 or so vs. Ohio State, who are off the big win @ Penn St with Meech on deck.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.........
 

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my -13 1/2 looks beter all the time now at 16 1/2

Unfortunately, with the lack of a running game, 30 may not be enough for Iowa on Saturday. VERY curious to see the total in this one; 38 is my guess and the under should be golden unless Iowa rolls over and lets the Bucks score at will late in the game.
If a book would post an O/U on total yards by Iowa in this game and set it at 100, I'd hammer the under...:sadwave:
 

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They will come out and play hard but if Oh St gets ahead you know they are going to feel the effect of not having Stanzi and things could multiply quicky.
 

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(A) Here?s a ?fluff piece? on Iowa?s 3rd generation quarterback being thrust into the limelight:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/article/20091108/SPORTS020502/911090313



(B) IMO a much more substantial piece on Vandenberg (for at least the last two seasons, gazetteonline.com has been my first choice as the media outlet with the ?best? coverage of Iowa football):

http://gazetteonline.com/sports/iowa-hawkeyes/hawkeye-football/2009/11/09/james-vandenberg-was-born-for-this

?So, Iowa?s new quarterback is a third generation college football (quarterback) with a dad who?s an emergency room doctor who makes life-and-death decisions on a regular basis. He?s going to need to draw on all of that . . . ?I thought Coach (Ken) O?Keefe was really aggressive with the playcalls with James considering his lack of experience,? wide receiver Derrell Johnson-Koulianos said. ?James accepted it. He was excited. He knows the reads, he knows the defenses just as well as Ricky does. He?s just missing out on the actual playing time and the game speed But right now, it?s James V?s time.? . . . ?It?s (Stanzi?s injury) like seeing your little brother get hurt,? wide receiver Marvin McNutt said. ?You want to go pick him up off the field yourself. At the same time, you know you?ve got another little brother who can step in and play, too.? Vandenberg looks very, very little brother . . . He aged a little after his first pass Saturday was picked off. He?ll age a little more this week when the task at hand finally hits him . . .?I?ve got to learn from today and we?ve got to move on,? said Vandenberg, a 6-3, 205-pounder from Keokuk. ?There?s no time to dwell on being nervous anymore. There?s too much at stake now.?



(C) The hot topic on the Iowa message boards was sparked by a post game comment by OL Bryan Bulaga that Vandenberg had never taken a snap with the first team (during practice).

http://iowa.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=804&tid=127845652&mid=127845652&sid=940&style=2

The best explanations of Bulaga?s statement that I?ve seen on the message boards are as follows:

?Okay folks for those who have never seen a college FB team practice this is how it works. Usually the last hour of practice the number 1 and 2 offense run plays against the scout team defense who simulates that weeks oposition. The 1's take a play then the 2's so on and so on for about 50-60 plays of that weeks game plan. So it's not that Vandy doesn't get his reps it's just that he takes them with the 2's. Every team in America practices like this Texas, Alabama, Florida & Iowa. What Bugla said was correct Vandy doesn't take his practice snaps with the 1's Stanzi does. H'e with the 2's so can't put that on KOK. KOK is conducting offensive drills just like it's always been done. That's how Coach Synder did also under Hayden.?

?the skill guys rotate through the #1s and #2s. That way everyone on the two-deeps works with Stanzi (and, by extension, Vandenberg). Unless you see a bunch of guys unfamiliar with cadence and jumping off-sides, it doesn't matter as much which guards and tackles he works with -- it matters that he gets reps with all the skill positions, and it seems that he did . . . And, frankly, it would make no sense to think he wouldn't. Of course the #1s and #2s are going to rotate through. You have to work all the RBs, WRs and TEs with Stanzi. So when the backups are running with Stanzi, then DJK, McNutt, Moeaki, etc. would be running with Vandenberg. It doesn't matter that much whether Bulaga, Vandevelde, Reiff, etc. have run much with Vandenberg, as there's no timing to coordinate. The blocking schemes don't change based on which QB is in there.?

And the topic even prompted this unsolicited statement from HC Kirk Ferentz during his Tuesday press conference (in the context of talking about an emergency 3rd string QB for this week: ? . . . one of my friends called me . . .he had heard it in one of those meeting rooms on the websites or talk shows or whatever the hell it is. And the word out there is about Vandenburg not getting snaps . . . our twos get a lot of work . . . ?

Transcript of Ferentz's Tuesday press conference with excerpts:

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/auto_pdf/p_hotos/s_chools/iowa/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/111009

Excerpts:

?. . . James is a good football player. He's walking into a tough, excellent defense. It might as well be an NFL defense we're playing. So it's going to be a tough order there. The crowd noise is going to be hard. All of those things. You couldn't ask for a tougher starting contest for him. He'll get good support. He'll be prepared. I'm not going to measure him over the next 60 minutes of play. He'll continue to improve. He's a quality football player, and he works hard. I have total confidence in him.

Q. Does the playbook change?
Oh, yeah. I mean Rick's more experienced now than he was 20 games ago. So things are a little bit different. It will be the same for James. Ohio State will do a good job of changing our playbook, too. We haven't seen a lot of open plays on the tape. We're still looking back somewhere in 1983 right now looking for some stuff. We'll find something somewhere.

Q. Does he have a list of safe plays that he can go to?
He's been around our offense. He knows our offense. He made a great run check the other day. It wasn't like it was a total catastrophe out there. I thought he did a lot of good things. The throws he didn't make to me, that's experience. That's being a little bit excited, what have you. He'll be better. This is a tough contest for him. A tough draw. But, , I play our football team. You measure people over the course of the race, not just every lap.?



(D) The most interesting "take" I've read on an Ohio State message board was the following:

"Wow. Just over at an Iowa board. However confident we are they are even more so - that WE will win . . . I can't imagine being in their situation and not believing you have a chance."
"I can't imagine Iowa beating us. But how depressing it must be to be playing for the Rose Bowl and undisputed Big Ten championship - all on one game - and not buy in to the possibility . . . I mean, you are living in Iowa. You HAVE to dream!

http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/buckeye-football/614010-iowa-tosu-nov-14-3-30-et-abc-winner-rose-bowl.html



(E) Finally, ?Vandenberg looks very, very little brother . . .?

06iowastanzivandenburg.jpg




Hope this helps,

GL
 

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Reds--35 1/2. Is Iowa going to lay the redshirt freshmen again? Where is he from and what is his peidgree?

5 dimes has it -16.5 and 36.5 as of this AM, Mark. Lostinamerica has posted some great info here; don't have anything to add at this juncture. Still will be on OSU and the Under if these numbers stay the same the rest of the week.
I left Kinnick after the 3rd quarter last week figuring Iowa gets shut out this week unless a miracle comes along and Vandenburg suddenly figures out how to play QB. He did nothing against a poor NW squad and now he is being asked to go into the Horseshoe against a very good defense and move this team, with little or no running game? Very unlikely to happen, IMO.
 

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Teams who lose their first game of the season in November do not cover in the next game 70% of the time over the past 3 years, but none of those teams were getting this many points.. In most cases those teams were favored the following week and expected to "bounce back" but never did by the spread anyways.. A lot of points for Iowa.. I don't know much about the backup except he was brutal last week. Will a week of practice make a difference is the question? If he doesn't improve, they get murdered.
 

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Stanzi's injury must have been more serious-just heard he had surgey on it yesterday--maybe a tear and not a spraiin?
 

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Stanzi's injury must have been more serious-just heard he had surgey on it yesterday--maybe a tear and not a spraiin?

Rick had surgery Monday at 11am. The decision was made because of the healing process, the medical staff believes the recovery/rehab process will be much cleaner with the surgery.


However, i gets much healthier every where else...Brett Greenwood, Colin Sandeman, will both be back Saturday and ADAM ROBINSON WILL PLAY AS WELL! :toast:
 
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5 dimes has it -16.5 and 36.5 as of this AM, Mark. Lostinamerica has posted some great info here; don't have anything to add at this juncture. Still will be on OSU and the Under if these numbers stay the same the rest of the week.
I left Kinnick after the 3rd quarter last week figuring Iowa gets shut out this week unless a miracle comes along and Vandenburg suddenly figures out how to play QB. He did nothing against a poor NW squad and now he is being asked to go into the Horseshoe against a very good defense and move this team, with little or no running game? Very unlikely to happen, IMO.

pathetic dude. :thefinger
 

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LOL< i am jsut mad because i sat in Kinnick and knew what was coming at halftime...i didnt get off my seat until about 10 minutes after the game. i simply was not looking forward to the 5 hour drive home.

Would have stayed for the whole game, too, but my buddy had his 8 year old son with him and it was getting to be too much for us. He has been to other games and has always been great; don't know what was up on Saturday...:shrug:
Hard to believe anyone at the game didn't see that outcome after Stanzi went down; thats probably why the 8 year old said it was time to go....:mj07:
I really didn't mind; we got to IC late so I didn't get my full supply of cold ones before the game....:142smilie

Do you make it to many games? had season tickets for many years until this one--will probably get them back next year. Where do you tailgate when you are at a game?
 
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Would have stayed for the whole game, too, but my buddy had his 8 year old son with him and it was getting to be too much for us. He has been to other games and has always been great; don't know what was up on Saturday...:shrug:
Hard to believe anyone at the game didn't see that outcome after Stanzi went down; thats probably why the 8 year old said it was time to go....:mj07:
I really didn't mind; we got to IC late so I didn't get my full supply of cold ones before the game....:142smilie

Do you make it to many games? had season tickets for many years until this one--will probably get them back next year. Where do you tailgate when you are at a game?

I have season tickets and make it to 4-5 home games a season. I also always try to go to 1-3 road games as well. I picked a good year to go to ISU :)

As far as tailgating it really depends on who i go with. If i go with my old man i do not tailgate much. If i go with friends we hit up the magic bus or if not there my wifes uncle has a spot right next to the press box. So it really depends.

How about you?
 

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I have season tickets and make it to 4-5 home games a season. I also always try to go to 1-3 road games as well. I picked a good year to go to ISU :)

As far as tailgating it really depends on who i go with. If i go with my old man i do not tailgate much. If i go with friends we hit up the magic bus or if not there my wifes uncle has a spot right next to the press box. So it really depends.

How about you?

I know the guy that started the magic bus way back when. He'd take it to bowl games and a bunch of us went to Mardi gras a few times. Fun times. Ever see the Sugar Nipples play at the bus? They are friends of mine from High School.
Rumor going around that the guys running it now are shutting it down after this season. House that it sits at was sold and the new owners want a lot more in rent than what they are paying currently.
If I'm going to the game with the same guys I did last week, we tailgate over at the top of Myrtle Ave at Frank's E-Z park. Otherwise, I know a group of people that have a parking pass for the Dental Science lot.
Won't be making the Minny game, but next season we will have to try and meet up for a beer and talk some 'capping...:toast:
Pretty optimistic outlook for Saturday here, huh?

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