Survey - Need opinions regarding my interview tomorrow

acehistr8

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I just found out that out of 4 people who got interviews with Merrill Lynch's Private Client Group tomorrow, I am the only one with work experience, the rest are current MBA students who graduate in the Spring and who have no work experience. What should this tell me:

1 - I have a leg up on the competition as I have 6 years of solid work experience, 2 years helping to run a dot.com and 4 years big firm consulting experience.

2 - They are really looking for new grads so they can turn and burn them as fast as possible as well as pay less than I would require.

Thoughts?
 

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Take the best of both worlds approach.

Tell them your are "expirenced" yet enjoy leaning and would like to broarden your horizions.

Tell them what kind of $$ you expect , but you are willing to work for 1 year at a lower cost to prove your worth.

Say that you are interrested in finding a home. You are tired of moving jobs and you would like to settle with a company that can provide room to grow both personally and professionally.

GL:cool:
 

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Acehistr8,

I was a Financial Advisor at Merrill Lynch in their US Private client Group for about two years. My branch was located in Northern New Jersey. I hope to help you as much as I can, although our situations upon interviewing are different.

To give you a little background on myself and my experiences there, I was hired by Merrill right out of school (May 2001). I was placed in their Paths of Achievement (Training) program and also assisted one of the larger Financial Advisor teams in the office. During my time there I got fully licensed passing my Series 7, Series 66, NJ Life and Health Insurance exams, as well as, the Merrill Lynch Certified Financial Manager exam (CFM), which is eqivalent to the first of six sections of the CFP and a requirement to complete before LOS month 12. I personally had some success there, but not enough to make myself and Merrill satisified. I was right out of school and had very few business contacts. My father has been in the business elsewhere for over 25 years and had most, if not all, prospects in my (and friends of the) family. Furthermore the DOW had dropped 3500 points during my tenure there. The business I did do was primarily mortgages (which was booming at the time), 529 Accounts, and various Managed Money products (Consults and Mutual Fund Advisors--MFA). In short, I realized that the Retail Sales is not for everybody. I left Merrill this past December.

I wanted to give you that background so you take any advice I might give for what it's worth. I am 24 and was learning as I went, but will try to help you if I can.

Salary:

Most entry level Financial Advisors make 40,000. There was one woman my age, who said she made 55,000. Whether it is true or not, is not for me to say, but I have gotten indications that candidates that are not entry level (as yourself) received their base salarys on an individual basis. Being that you have your MBA and six years of work experience under your belt, you would have more leverage in comparision to an entry level applicant. If you negotiate around what you're looking for, whatever that figure might be, and present yourself as a valuable asset to Merrill, you may get it. Realize, however, that your base salary is only temporory. I'm not sure of the exact time period, but after 2-3 years, Merrill slowly scales back your salary, in hopes that by that time you have gotten your Financial practice off the ground and the commissions are coming in at a steady pace.

Keep in mind that what sets Merrill apart from other firms is that their payouts (commissions) are generally higher than their competition. I may have some commission figures to give you, but i'm not sure. They vary for each product you sell, as well as the type of investment within each product (Equities, Fixed Income, and Cash).

Suggestions:

Go in there tomorrow with a pipeline in mind. Think of everybody you know. Who do they know? Influential figures? Wealthy areas/groups to penetrate? Do you belong to any clubs or organizations? The more people you know, the less cold calling you will do. I hated cold calling, but for me, is was one of my only options.

Merrill's goals/requirements are steep. They say they look for a "top flight" Financial Advisor to bring in a million a month. Lower (3rd tier) goals might ask you to bring in 500,000-600,000 a month.

Down the road they might ask you to develop a business plan. If you need a million a month.........How many seminars are you going to do a month? How many cold calls are you going to do a week, a month? How much of each product do you plan to sell each week, month, year? More or less...how or what road are you going to take to succeed?

I don't know if I put down too much information or not enough, but I hope you find this useful. I know that this is only my second or third post and nobody really know who I am around here, but all of the cappers on this board have helped me immensely, with not only picks, but on how to be a consistent, disciplined handicapper. I have learned that no matter how much I know or how good a game looks, there is no such thing as a "lock" or a season is "a marathon, not a sprint", and so on and so forth. I have been "lurking" around here for a while, primarily in the Baseball, NFL, and NHL rooms and have been sharpening my skills, but am not in the stage of my life where I can wager as much as some do on the boards. In addition, I do not always have the techincal and exact statistical information to back up the picks that I make (that so many people in here do so well) and would feel bad if I would steer others in the wrong direction. I do, however, have a lot of knowledge of sports. I've been following the four major sports for as long as I can remember. I understand the game(s) and the importance of information/statistics/trends/conditions/etc.

Anyways, I hope that this information on Merrill will help you. If I can answer any specific questions that you may have, please don't hesitiate to ask.

Ltrain
 

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I will chime in here. I interview college kids all the time as part of my new billet out here. Very professional interviews mind you. As I have only a handful of opportunities each year to let these kids apply for, so I ain't gonna waste my time on the dirtbags and weed them out in the interview process.

When I am talking with them, there are things I look for. Maybe this will help you prepare.

1. If they say: uhhh ummm duuu or any other single syllable phrase of stupidity when I ask them a straightforward question, I show them the door.

2. If they have zero to below minimum concept of what is going on in the world, I show them the door.

3. If they obvious can not take care of themselves, i.e, brushed hair, clean teeth, clean clothes, I certainly can not expect them to lead others, I don't even let them in the door.

4. People who talk about what they are going to do five years from now, after we have trained them and spent untold amounts of money on their training and lifestyle, and sit there and tell me, "Well if I join the Navy, then it will look good on my resume so I can go out and get a better job."
****Its good to have a plan, but dont tell your potential employer that you look at this short career as a half ass internship just tiding you over to get to the big money.*****

5. Self confidence. Do NOT ever mumble, shrug your shoulders and say I dunno, or talk under your breath. If the interviewer has to lean over the desk to listen to you, you are behind the 8-ball.

Otherwise, sorry, kinda lost my train of thought thinking of some idiots I have had at my desk recently....

Go in there with confidence. The best guys I have ever seen, and some of the interviews I have been given, were the ones where you walk in, shake his hand, tell him who you are, what you are going to do for him and his company and then sit back and ask him if he has any more questions for you.
Its a tight market out there, and the employers know it. They are looking for the perfect candidate.
Don't talk salary at the first interview. Let him know that as soon as you show up to work the first day you are going to be able to hit the ground running because you HAVE experience. You are not going to be wasting time by learning how to turn on the computer and find the bathroom.
I would really push the experience aspect in your interview. Show him things you have done that have brought on efficiency and saved money in the workplace.

If the interview goes poorly, I could have you flying an F/A 18 Hornet shortly if you swing by....
;)
 

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Marine, I may be coming to Hawaii in the Fall, maybe I could hitch a ride :)

Ltrain, thanks for your info, it was incredibly helpful. It tracks pretty well with what I have been given so far by other people but you did help fill in the blanks on a few things. You said mortgages were one of the products you were able to sell, does that include re-financings? My father is a real estate trainer on the national level and has hundreds if not thousands of contacts around the country (also he said he wanted to be my first customer on the refinancing). If this is a market I could tap into I think that would be huge for me. Also my girlfriend is an attorney and I am always having to go to some function or another. I used to think they were boring as shit, being that they were something like the Harvard Law Alumni club, or big office parties, but this again would be a big market. To be honest it is not something I see myself doing forever. But I am looking to get into this market, and having the Merrill name behind me as well as getting all that training and licensing would almost be too good to pass up.

Also if you could give me an idea of the comissions and how they work for different products, what size account pays how much etc, that would be real helpful. I know this is all info I can get after the fact, but I fully believe in getting as much ammo going in as I can, it makes it a much easier interview.

Thanks again.
 

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sorry dude, no esto en Hawaii. Dondo en la State College de Pennsylvania.

(just getting in touch with my ethnic side there:))

i am just north of you by about 3.5 hours now. maybe we can get together and throw snowballs at each other or something instead of looking at grass skirts.
 

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OK Hrs what I got. First of all, 1 lttr on my kyboard is not working now. Can you guss which 1 it is? A vowl of all lttrs. Not a "Q" or an "X". Damn it. Oh wll, anyways......


Quickly on salary....

Monthly salary, which is dtrmind by your managr whn hird is paid to you through month 27. Monthly Salary thn dclins 10% from month 22 to 27.

Salary will dclin by $300 ach month starting in month 13, if your prformanc is DNM (Dos not Mt).


Monthly Goals:

You ar judgd on two main critria: Production Crdits and Total Assts.

For Total Assts:

Lvl 1 is approx. 900,000-1MM a month
Lvl 2 is apporx. 700,000-750,000 a month
Lvl. 3 is approx. 400,000-500,000 a month

For Production Crdits:

For ach month undr ach lvl, th PC's rquird gos up incrmntally. Can't giv xact #'s. It's on a chart, that I can't forward to you.

PC's dpnding on product ar typically 1-3%. Too many products and scnarios to brak it down furthr.


Commissions:

Most commissions ar in rlation to you PC's. For "annuitizd" products....

Asst Basd:
-Consults (Profssional Mony Managmnt---$250,000 minimum)
-MLUA (ML Unlimitd Advantag)
-MFA (Mutual Fund Advisor)

Mutual Funds
401K
Insuranc
Loans and Liabilitis (I think not including Mortgags)


LOS Month Annuitd % of PC's
0-12 50%
13-24 50%
25-36 50%
37-48 40%
49+ individual

For Transactional Products:

-Single trades (not typical)
-mostly othr products not prviously mntiond (sorry not mor spcific)

LOS 0-24 10% of PC's


Mortgages (incl. rfi's, hom quity Lin of Crdit, and othrs...):

If thy did not chang thir pay structur.....

1% of Loan ar your PC's and you gt a singl payout of 50% of your PC's

xampl....

500,000 Loan/Mortgag

PC's 5000
Commission: 2500

This is only from what I rcall and/or from th paprwork I still hav.

Vry sorry about th malfunction with my kyboard. Wantd to gt back to you ASAP to giv you adquat tim to hav th info. sink in Hop to hav th problm corrctd shortly.

If you hav any othr qustions, lt m know.
 

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LOL sorry about the e key, but that was exactly the info I was looking for. Really appreciate it. If you think of anything else that may be useful, my interview is not until 9am.

Many thanks.
 

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I wish I could give you advice....but iam a blue collar worker working in a blue collar town.

I do however wish the best of luck to ya...With your solid experience.....why wouldnt they hire you :confused: :confused:
 

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I needed that laugh about your "e" key! lol :lol:

My mother works for Merrill-Lynch and has been there for about 20 years. Sounds like they are doing something right. I'm not too much help otherwise, sorry.
 

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Good Luck tomorrow. I hop all gos smoothly. Th info I gav you was part of a nw pay structur as of 6/20/02, but it should still b valid. Can you bliv this kyboard? Glad you guys got a laugh from it. Will call a Dll tchnician in th morning. If you hav any pr or post intrviw qustions, I should b around.
 

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Thanks slim pickins. Took carE of it today! HopEfully that problEm is bEhind mE. Damn caps lock. He He. Just kidding!

Acehistr8, I hope all went well today.
 

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I was a Financial Advisor at Merrill Lynch in their US Private client Group for about two years. My branch was located in Northern New Jersey.

Ltrain - Do you know a Robert Bazley?

acehistr8 - Hope your interview went well. :)
 

acehistr8

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Ltrain, everything went well, it was pretty much just what you guys told me it would be, though the numbers were a little different. 8 months of training/licensing, then 24 months after that to build a 15M book. Shouldnt be a problem I dont think, I have some real good circles of contacts.

My biggest problem was that the guy was supposed to bring someone with him to do the testing, but she got caught in traffic. It pisses me off because you know what, you live in fvcking DC, you see snow, LEAVE EARLY. I left early, I left 60 minutes for a 15 minute drive. Pissed me right off.

That said, it is a position that sounds good, and if nothing else will get me fully trained an licensed.
 

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Good Luck. Hopefully they tell you one way or the other in a short amount of time so you dont go nuts waiting. Some times large companies for get the small human customer service that is needed. And right now you are a customer.
 

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when are you gonna find out if you got the job? --- unless you allready did :confused: ....well i hope you did :p :toast:
 
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