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PLAYOFF PUCK THE MAN :nutkick
post your info here, lets share what we know and ...
PLAYOFF PUCK THE MAN :nutkick
tb @ nj game 1
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Some playoff numbers??
Brodeur 5 4-1 1.70 8/126 .940 134
Khabibulin 6 4-2 2.08 14/164 .921 178
PowerPlay
NJersey 3/22, 13.6%
TBay 4/27, 14.85%
PenaltyKill
NJersey 3/18, 83.3%
TBay 5/27, 81.5%
Sure don?t look very far apart, stats-wise so far in the playoffs. Is Jersey worth the price?? I?m not sure.
Brodeur 5 4-1 1.70 8/126 .940 134
Khabibulin 6 4-2 2.08 14/164 .921 178
PowerPlay
NJersey 3/22, 13.6%
TBay 4/27, 14.85%
PenaltyKill
NJersey 3/18, 83.3%
TBay 5/27, 81.5%
Sure don?t look very far apart, stats-wise so far in the playoffs. Is Jersey worth the price?? I?m not sure.
Aces and others see my thread for a writeup on this game...not that its worth chit these days ...LOL
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LOL, cooz, the pick may stink, but the reasoning is GOOD chit
. I'm going in and out getting ready for the SDiego trip tomorrow, but will put up some numbers to back you up later on how GOOD Khabibulin has been the last month and 1/2. Scares me that we're up against Chenks, but this has been a strange playoffs so far. 7 of 8 doggies won the opening game, Minny and Van joined history coming back from 1-3. Considering NJ lost 0-1 in BOTH their last Round2 Game1's in '01, and '00, TB has a shot at stealing this one, JMHO. I'll be on TB tonite, too
. I'm going in and out getting ready for the SDiego trip tomorrow, but will put up some numbers to back you up later on how GOOD Khabibulin has been the last month and 1/2. Scares me that we're up against Chenks, but this has been a strange playoffs so far. 7 of 8 doggies won the opening game, Minny and Van joined history coming back from 1-3. Considering NJ lost 0-1 in BOTH their last Round2 Game1's in '01, and '00, TB has a shot at stealing this one, JMHO. I'll be on TB tonite, too(Sports Network) - The Tampa Bay Lightning and New Jersey Devils open the second stage of the Stanley Cup journey tonight when they clash in Game 1 of their Eastern Conference semifinal series at the Meadowlands.
The Atlantic Division-champion Devils are back in the second round on the heels of last year's quarterfinal upset at the hands of Carolina. In Round 1 this spring, the Devils advanced with relative ease, disposing of the Boston Bruins in five games.
As per the norm, Martin Brodeur was at the center of the dominance, posting a 1.69 goals-against average, .940 save percentage and two shutouts in five games.
Of course, Brodeur also had some help from his friends along the way, as the Pat Burns-guided club played its traditional lockdown brand of hockey, especially after building a lead. The checking line of former Selke winner John Madden, Jay Pandolfo and Turner Stevenson minimized the Bruins' top duo of Joe Thornton and Glen Murray. Madden and future Hall of Famer Scott Stevens
were in Thornton's face all series and limited the NHL's third-leading scorer to a goal and two assists.
Madden's line, which may or may not include Sergei Brylin, who is returning from a wrist injury, will now be charged with shutting down Tampa Bay's top trio of Martin St. Louis, Vincent Lecavalier and Vaclav Prospal. The potent unit was assembled after Game 2 of the Lightning's series with Washington, and accounted for all but one of the team's 11 goals the rest of the way.
Madden, however, is making an impact offensively as well, leading the club with eight points (2g, 6a). His contribution was clearly welcomed for a team that had its share of trouble finding the net in the regular season, but the play of winger Jamie Langenbrunner was crucial. The former Dallas Star posted a club-high five goals and spurred hope that he could put together a run like he did in Big D. In 1999, Langenbrunner scored 10 goals in 23 playoff games while helping the Stars win the Stanley Cup.
Aside from Langenbrunner and Madden, though, no other Devil managed more than one goal. That includes leading scorer from the regular season, Patrik Elias, who was shut out.
As for the Southeast Division-champion Lightning, they got rid of the Capitals in six games, winning four straight after falling behind 0-2. St. Louis was the lead catalyst, scoring five goals -- including three consecutive game-winners. He tallied the series- clincher in triple-overtime at the MCI Center in Washington on Sunday.
St. Louis' line won't be intimidated by going against Madden and Co., as it had success against a very good checking unit versus the Caps. The Capitals possess one of the top shutdown lines around in Jeff Halpern, Steve Konowalchuk and Mike Grier, but the latter part of the series saw them do a lot of futile chasing.
Captain Dave Andreychuk, a former Devil, scored the only other goal for Tampa Bay in the final four games against Washington. He, along with the likes of Fredrik Modin, Brad Richards and Ruslan Fedotenko must produce, because the Devils are unlikely to lose to a "one-line team."
Last but not least, of course, is goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin, who had folks on the Gulf Coast worried a bit after the first two games. He was clearly outplayed by counterpart Olaf Kolzig early on, and his past playoff demons were lurking.
But as the Lightning turned around as a team, so did the Bulin Wall. The Russian star was able to outduel Kolzig in a 4-3 overtime victory in Game 3, and allowed a meager three goals the rest of the way. He finished things off with a tremendous 60-save effort in the clincher.
Tampa Bay is 0-2 all-time in series openers, while New Jersey is 14-14 in Game 1s during its history. The Devils have gone on to win 10 times when they take the first game of a playoff series.
The Lightning and Devils went 1-1-2 against each other this season, and Tampa is 4-1-3 in the last eight meetings. The Bolts are 2-1-1 in their last four trips to the Meadowlands.
TB is 6-1-1 ATS in the past eight meetings.
TB is 6-2 ATS in its last seven road games.
TB is 11-5 ATS on the road following a win.
NJ is 6-3 ATS playing on 3-plus days' rest.
NJ is 3-1 ATS in their last four overall.
The under is 6-2 in NJ's last eight overall.
2002-2003 Meetings
10/26 - New Jersey, 5-1 (at NJ)
11/23 - Tampa Bay, 3-1 (at NJ)
01/11 - Tied, 3-3 ot (at TB)
03/27 - Tied, 2-2 ot (at TB)
2001-2002 Meetings
11/23 - Tampa Bay, 2-0 (at TB)
12/04 - Tied, 1-1 ot (at NJ)
01/15 - Tampa Bay, 5-4 ot (at NJ)
01/21 - Tampa Bay, 3-2 (at TB)
2000-2001 Meetings
10/21 - New Jersey, 7-2 (at NJ)
12/23 - New Jersey, 5-1 (at TB)
03/04 - New Jersey, 6-0 (at NJ)
03/27 - New Jersey, 7-1 (at TB)
Regular Season Notes
Note - Tampa Bay is unbeaten (1-0-2) in the last three meetings.
Note - Tampa Bay is 4-1-3 in the last eight meetings.
Note - New Jersey is 6-4-3 in the last 13 meetings.
Note - NJ is 11-5-3 in the last 19 and 16-6-3 in the last 25.
Note - NJ is winless (0-2-2) after winning its last five at Tampa.
Note - New Jersey is 7-3-3 in its last 13 at Tampa Bay.
Note - Tampa Bay is 2-1-1 in its last four at New Jersey.
Note - Tampa Bay is 2-3-1 in its last six at New Jersey.
Note - Tampa Bay is 3-14-2 in its last 19 at New Jersey.
The Atlantic Division-champion Devils are back in the second round on the heels of last year's quarterfinal upset at the hands of Carolina. In Round 1 this spring, the Devils advanced with relative ease, disposing of the Boston Bruins in five games.
As per the norm, Martin Brodeur was at the center of the dominance, posting a 1.69 goals-against average, .940 save percentage and two shutouts in five games.
Of course, Brodeur also had some help from his friends along the way, as the Pat Burns-guided club played its traditional lockdown brand of hockey, especially after building a lead. The checking line of former Selke winner John Madden, Jay Pandolfo and Turner Stevenson minimized the Bruins' top duo of Joe Thornton and Glen Murray. Madden and future Hall of Famer Scott Stevens
were in Thornton's face all series and limited the NHL's third-leading scorer to a goal and two assists.
Madden's line, which may or may not include Sergei Brylin, who is returning from a wrist injury, will now be charged with shutting down Tampa Bay's top trio of Martin St. Louis, Vincent Lecavalier and Vaclav Prospal. The potent unit was assembled after Game 2 of the Lightning's series with Washington, and accounted for all but one of the team's 11 goals the rest of the way.
Madden, however, is making an impact offensively as well, leading the club with eight points (2g, 6a). His contribution was clearly welcomed for a team that had its share of trouble finding the net in the regular season, but the play of winger Jamie Langenbrunner was crucial. The former Dallas Star posted a club-high five goals and spurred hope that he could put together a run like he did in Big D. In 1999, Langenbrunner scored 10 goals in 23 playoff games while helping the Stars win the Stanley Cup.
Aside from Langenbrunner and Madden, though, no other Devil managed more than one goal. That includes leading scorer from the regular season, Patrik Elias, who was shut out.
As for the Southeast Division-champion Lightning, they got rid of the Capitals in six games, winning four straight after falling behind 0-2. St. Louis was the lead catalyst, scoring five goals -- including three consecutive game-winners. He tallied the series- clincher in triple-overtime at the MCI Center in Washington on Sunday.
St. Louis' line won't be intimidated by going against Madden and Co., as it had success against a very good checking unit versus the Caps. The Capitals possess one of the top shutdown lines around in Jeff Halpern, Steve Konowalchuk and Mike Grier, but the latter part of the series saw them do a lot of futile chasing.
Captain Dave Andreychuk, a former Devil, scored the only other goal for Tampa Bay in the final four games against Washington. He, along with the likes of Fredrik Modin, Brad Richards and Ruslan Fedotenko must produce, because the Devils are unlikely to lose to a "one-line team."
Last but not least, of course, is goaltender Nikolai Khabibulin, who had folks on the Gulf Coast worried a bit after the first two games. He was clearly outplayed by counterpart Olaf Kolzig early on, and his past playoff demons were lurking.
But as the Lightning turned around as a team, so did the Bulin Wall. The Russian star was able to outduel Kolzig in a 4-3 overtime victory in Game 3, and allowed a meager three goals the rest of the way. He finished things off with a tremendous 60-save effort in the clincher.
Tampa Bay is 0-2 all-time in series openers, while New Jersey is 14-14 in Game 1s during its history. The Devils have gone on to win 10 times when they take the first game of a playoff series.
The Lightning and Devils went 1-1-2 against each other this season, and Tampa is 4-1-3 in the last eight meetings. The Bolts are 2-1-1 in their last four trips to the Meadowlands.
TB is 6-1-1 ATS in the past eight meetings.
TB is 6-2 ATS in its last seven road games.
TB is 11-5 ATS on the road following a win.
NJ is 6-3 ATS playing on 3-plus days' rest.
NJ is 3-1 ATS in their last four overall.
The under is 6-2 in NJ's last eight overall.
2002-2003 Meetings
10/26 - New Jersey, 5-1 (at NJ)
11/23 - Tampa Bay, 3-1 (at NJ)
01/11 - Tied, 3-3 ot (at TB)
03/27 - Tied, 2-2 ot (at TB)
2001-2002 Meetings
11/23 - Tampa Bay, 2-0 (at TB)
12/04 - Tied, 1-1 ot (at NJ)
01/15 - Tampa Bay, 5-4 ot (at NJ)
01/21 - Tampa Bay, 3-2 (at TB)
2000-2001 Meetings
10/21 - New Jersey, 7-2 (at NJ)
12/23 - New Jersey, 5-1 (at TB)
03/04 - New Jersey, 6-0 (at NJ)
03/27 - New Jersey, 7-1 (at TB)
Regular Season Notes
Note - Tampa Bay is unbeaten (1-0-2) in the last three meetings.
Note - Tampa Bay is 4-1-3 in the last eight meetings.
Note - New Jersey is 6-4-3 in the last 13 meetings.
Note - NJ is 11-5-3 in the last 19 and 16-6-3 in the last 25.
Note - NJ is winless (0-2-2) after winning its last five at Tampa.
Note - New Jersey is 7-3-3 in its last 13 at Tampa Bay.
Note - Tampa Bay is 2-1-1 in its last four at New Jersey.
Note - Tampa Bay is 2-3-1 in its last six at New Jersey.
Note - Tampa Bay is 3-14-2 in its last 19 at New Jersey.
Over the last 20 games Bulin and Brodeur (including round 1 this yr)......
Bulin 14-3-3, 2.4GAA, 94%
Brod 11-6-3, 1.9GAA, 90%
Over the same span (including round 1)......
Bulin 8-0-1 on the road (1 shutout, gave up 1 goal 6 times, 2goals 1 time, 3 goal 1 time)
Brod 5-3-1 at home (2 shutouts, gave up 1 goal 3 times, 2 goals 1 time, 3 goals 2 times, 4 goals 1 time)
I know the playoffs is a different beast altogether, I'm just trying to say basically Bulin Wall at least on paper has been better than Brodeur by looking at W/L, and save %. Bulin gives up more goals because he doesn't get the kind of help Brodeur gets in front of him and faces a lot more shots. With NJ being 14-14 in Game1 series openers, including being shutout the last 2 times 1-0, NJ at -200 to win Game1 looks pretty expensive.
GL!!
Bulin 14-3-3, 2.4GAA, 94%
Brod 11-6-3, 1.9GAA, 90%
Over the same span (including round 1)......
Bulin 8-0-1 on the road (1 shutout, gave up 1 goal 6 times, 2goals 1 time, 3 goal 1 time)
Brod 5-3-1 at home (2 shutouts, gave up 1 goal 3 times, 2 goals 1 time, 3 goals 2 times, 4 goals 1 time)
I know the playoffs is a different beast altogether, I'm just trying to say basically Bulin Wall at least on paper has been better than Brodeur by looking at W/L, and save %. Bulin gives up more goals because he doesn't get the kind of help Brodeur gets in front of him and faces a lot more shots. With NJ being 14-14 in Game1 series openers, including being shutout the last 2 times 1-0, NJ at -200 to win Game1 looks pretty expensive.
GL!!
