Thank God for the refs Indy

[GoTerps]

If not for the refs this game is 50 something to 10.

 

[PittsburghKid]

It's not the refs it's what the NFL wants. Refs are afraid of not calling something they should more so than calling something they shouldn't because the NFL has said they want the refs to err on the side of caution. I have been saying for years that high scoring games are boring because it lessens the value of a TD(in my opinion) when you are in a tight defensive struggle every TD means more and you're more on edge of your seat because you know the next TD might be game over. These games are not over and it's not fun to watch (for me). The crowd can't get Into games and every sack or big defensive play is negated by a illegal contact or hands to face penalty etc. The NFL always says this is what fans want, more points. I never saw that survey result but I suppose it has to be true if the nfl says it . Rant over but I just don't like watching this kind of football, back,even a few yeRs ago a high scoring game was cool to watch time to time but not every game as most are weekly. Back to the soccer forum for me lol

Had to edit* that play by Wheaton offensive PI and we get the illegal contact on defense call. Everything is offense offense offense .sucks

 

[gardenweasel]

I think this year there has been 4 td` passes by a qb in a half by 3 different qb`s(I think theres been 3?)......I`m not sure how many times that`s happened prior to all these rule changes....

it`s going to render some offensive records ???...and that`s unfortunate...

 

[mrcleantx]

I think this year there has been 4 td` passes by a qb in a half by 3 different qb`s(I think theres been 3?)......I`m not sure how many times that`s happened prior to all these rule changes....

it`s going to render some offensive records ???...and that`s unfortunate...

Not sure what game ur watching. Looks pretty even to me with a few more calls going Pitts way

 

[gardenweasel]

Not sure what game ur watching. Looks pretty even to me with a few more calls going outta way

not sure which post you meant to quote...I wasn`t saying anything about which side is getting hosed...I`m talking about the ridiculous touchy-feely ticky tack use of hands calls on defenses all over the league...

it`s skewing games and legit offensive stats...

 

[mrcleantx]

not sure which post you meant to quote...I wasn`t saying anything about which side is getting hosed...I`m talking about the ridiculous touchy-feely ticky tack use of hands calls on defenses all over the league...

it`s skewing games and legit offensive stats...

That I agree with. I thought u meant Indy was getting all the calls

 

[JOHNNYWAD119]

The refs blew the whole game!! :facepalm:

 

[Gags]

Good luck trying to figure out the NFL. Last week Indy shut out Cincy and this week Pitt drops 51. A capping nightmare...

 

[Old School]

It's not the refs it's what the NFL wants. Refs are afraid of not calling something they should more so than calling something they shouldn't because the NFL has said they want the refs to err on the side of caution. I have been saying for years that high scoring games are boring because it lessens the value of a TD(in my opinion) when you are in a tight defensive struggle every TD means more and you're more on edge of your seat because you know the next TD might be game over. These games are not over and it's not fun to watch (for me). The crowd can't get Into games and every sack or big defensive play is negated by a illegal contact or hands to face penalty etc. The NFL always says this is what fans want, more points. I never saw that survey result but I suppose it has to be true if the nfl says it . Rant over but I just don't like watching this kind of football, back,even a few yeRs ago a high scoring game was cool to watch time to time but not every game as most are weekly. Back to the soccer forum for me lol

Had to edit* that play by Wheaton offensive PI and we get the illegal contact on defense call. Everything is offense offense offense .sucks

kids like scoring...kids keep the fan base fresh all the time..


ask MLB owners what they think of "small ball" and shitty TV viewing numbers..


MLB tolerated the PED's[and 8-5 games every day] and the turnstiles and home viewer #'s went thru the roof..

had to clean it up...and 9 folks in Tupelo,Miss tune in to watch TB play the Marlins.

ya gotta birth new fans in your sport to continue to create revenue ...

ask the NHL how it feels to live with 40-80 year old fans while their league lives on "life support year in and year out.

 

[PittsburghKid]

kids like scoring...kids keep the fan base fresh all the time.. ask MLB owners what they think of "small ball" and shitty TV viewing numbers.. MLB tolerated the PED's[and 8-5 games every day] and the turnstiles and home viewer #'s went thru the roof.. had to clean it up...and 9 folks in Tupelo,Miss tune in to watch TB play the Marlins. ya gotta birth new fans in your sport to continue to create revenue ... ask the NHL how it feels to live with 40-80 year old fans while their league lives on "life support year in and year out.

I'm 28 so not that old and I was just giving my opinion on how i felt. MLB attendance and revenue as a whole are at an all time high so I would assume they are ok with that. And contrary to popular belief, I believe I read an article a year or so ago that attendance wise the NHL average is higher than the NbA. I could be really wrong about that. But yes what holds them back is the tv contract but, the crowds are a lot younger that you think. Hockey is the best in person sport to watch. Maybe it's just me but if you want more fans just win and they will show. I can bet the royal fans not saying "boy I wish we weren't getting to the World Series winning low scoring small ball games". Yea maybe the viewings won't be as good but then as "fans" you can't complain about shit like PEDs and say how that time period was, for lack of better terms erasable from history. They want the players banished and such. I just don't like when "fans" want things both ways. Just my two cents but I know most if not all disagree with my through process (trust me I'm told by friends weekly lol)

 

[Old School]

2013 vs. 2014 Attendance MLB


13 TEAMS HAD LOWER ATTENDANCE 2013-2014

THE LEAGUE AS A WHOLE HAD LOWER ATTENDANCE..

AND THE TV #'S WERE ABISSMAL

For games through 2014-09-28

Year-to-Year Attendance

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Rk	Tm	2013_Games	2013_Attend	2013_AttendpGm	2014_Games	2014_Attend	2014_AttendpGm	Direction	Difference	DiffPerGame
1	ARI	81	2,134,895	26,357	81	2,073,730	25,602	DOWN	-61,165	-755
2	ATL	81	2,548,679	31,465	81	2,354,305	29,065	DOWN	-194,374	-2,400
3	BAL	81	2,357,561	29,106	81	2,464,473	30,426	UP	106,912	1,320
4	BOS	81	2,833,333	34,979	81	2,956,089	36,495	UP	122,756	1,516
5	CHC	81	2,642,682	32,626	81	2,652,113	32,742	UP	9,431	116
6	CHW	81	1,768,413	21,832	81	1,650,821	20,381	DOWN	-117,592	-1,452
7	CIN	80	2,492,101	31,151	81	2,476,664	30,576	DOWN	-15,437	-575
8	CLE	81	1,572,926	19,419	81	1,437,393	17,746	DOWN	-135,533	-1,673
9	COL	81	2,793,828	34,492	81	2,680,329	33,090	DOWN	-113,499	-1,401
10	DET	81	3,083,397	38,067	81	2,917,209	36,015	DOWN	-166,188	-2,052
11	HOU	81	1,651,883	20,394	81	1,751,829	21,628	UP	99,946	1,234
12	KCR	81	1,750,754	21,614	81	1,956,482	24,154	UP	205,728	2,540
13	LAA	81	3,019,505	37,278	81	3,095,935	38,221	UP	76,430	944
14	LAD	81	3,743,527	46,216	81	3,782,337	46,696	UP	38,810	479
15	MIA	81	1,586,322	19,584	81	1,732,283	21,386	UP	145,961	1,802
16	MIL	81	2,531,105	31,248	81	2,797,384	34,536	UP	266,279	3,287
17	MIN	81	2,477,644	30,588	81	2,250,606	27,785	DOWN	-227,038	-2,803
18	NYM	81	2,135,657	26,366	81	2,148,808	26,528	UP	13,151	162
19	NYY	81	3,279,589	40,489	81	3,401,624	41,995	UP	122,035	1,507
20	OAK	81	1,809,302	22,337	81	2,003,628	24,736	UP	194,326	2,399
21	PHI	81	3,012,403	37,190	81	2,423,852	29,924	DOWN	-588,551	-7,266
22	PIT	81	2,256,862	27,862	81	2,442,564	30,155	UP	185,702	2,293
23	SDP	81	2,166,691	26,749	81	2,195,373	27,103	UP	28,682	354
24	SEA	81	1,761,546	21,747	81	2,064,334	25,486	UP	302,788	3,738
25	SFG	81	3,327,611	41,082	81	3,368,697	41,589	UP	41,086	507
26	STL	81	3,369,769	41,602	81	3,540,649	43,712	UP	170,880	2,110
27	TBR	81	1,510,300	18,646	81	1,446,464	17,858	DOWN	-63,836	-788
28	TEX	81	3,135,477	38,710	81	2,718,733	33,565	DOWN	-416,744	-5,145
29	TOR	81	2,536,562	31,316	81	2,375,525	29,327	DOWN	-161,037	-1,988
30	WSN	81	2,652,422	32,746	81	2,579,389	31,844	DOWN	-73,033	-902
	total	2429	73,942,746	30,442	2430	73,739,622	30,346	DOWN	-203,124	-84

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[PittsburghKid]

^ as I said as a whole and as a whole I'll give it you you but the average attendance is down 94 petiole per game. If that has such an effect on baseball then it has more problems than scoring lol.. What was one of the top co plains this year if not number 1, length of game (not that I agree but for different reasons) if "fans" want more scoring than there is now the games will be even longer. Again can't have it both ways. Besides I loveeeee a good pitching game and could watch those all day but again that's just me . Shrug. Maybe the problem is I was born in the wrong generation lol since I love 80s hair bands, defense and pitching lol

 

[Old School]

WORTH A READ ABOUT VIEWING TV NHL OR NBA..

keep in mind..without TV viewers no major sport can be top tier without :0002
http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrissm...n-the-battle-for-postseason-cable-tv-ratings/


and to your point about home attendance..

NHL better than NBA if these are correct:0074

http://www.csnchicago.com/blackhawks/behind-numbers-nhl-attendance-surpassing-nba


NBA ATTENDANCE THIS PAST SEASON
http://espn.go.com/nba/attendance/_/year/2014/sort/homeTotal

NHL
NHL Attendance Report - 2013-14
http://espn.go.com/nhl/attendance/_/year/2014


ain't nothing but good things being 28 years old and having passionate opinions about sports..

keep rockin' and .....

"KEEP SMILIN''

 

[PittsburghKid]

ain't nothing but good things being 28 years old and having passionate opinions about sports.. keep rockin' and ..... "KEEP SMILIN''

Cheers buddy. I have a lot but never post on here, just lurk. Except for soccer plays. I love a good passionate sports conversation.