not sour grapes as I had no play tonight, but if K-State is the 5th ranked team in the country, I'm feeling real good about what the Irish may be able to do this year. K-State is a very soft defensive football team from what I saw tonight! I'm not too sure we'll get a good feeling about where K-State is moving until maybe the 4th or 5th week of the season given the fact they have some real powerhouse clubs to play in the next couple of weeks :thefinger

