The Brothers Karamazov

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Any readers of this work, by the happily dead Fyodor Dostoevsky.

Notes From Underground didn't do much for me. I'm probably more appreciative of the personal sanity-madness gray area, more than the social cohesion due to political ideology, and I would never profess what is best for all. Tried. Failure.

I'm close to halfway through Crime and Punishment, one of the few 'read before I die' books available. I'll probably chill with Hesse's Steppenwolf (a redo) or The Remains of the Day, by Kazuo Ishiguro, but the temptation to tackle this shit will not survive the year, regardless of what other teams survive.

Drop word if you've tackled this shit and if it was worth it. Nearly 40 hours by audiobook (I guess I'm stuck with the Project Gutenberg reading, best I could find on youtubby).

Aldous Huxley, Albert Camus, and even George Orwell, pretended to experiment with adversity for alternative--or more enlightened--point of view, but Fyodor seems to have authentically gotten his shit kicked. I'm fairly early in Crime and Punishment--pawnbroker now dead--and I remain intrigued enough to slough through another couple of days to see where this leads. The writing is decent, if aged, and I can't fathom what might be lost in translation.

Maybe text beats audio, for something so daunting. I guess I'll need something, to read in hell, so maybe a text copy is the better way to go. Was targeting The Varieties of Religious Experience, by William James, but I expect that he makes the mistake of trying to make sense of things. Hope to struggle through, regardless.

Any word is cool. I'll take anything. Russian literature is not on the radar of my current friends and family, so my expectations are complicated.

Marilynne Robinson, and her 'Gilead' series, is also tempting, if anybody has tried same. Amazing how priorities change when the end is nigh. Had enough. Juvenile. Limited time.

Brothers K.
daunting?
worthy?

My people appear shallow. Perhaps it's my perception.
 

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Marilynne Robinson, and her 'Gilead' series, is also tempting.


She taught for 16 years at the writers workshop at the university of Iowa.
Know a couple of people who took her classes and they rave about her ability as an instructor.
I gave Gilead the ‘ol college try but just couldn’t get into it.
And them Russians you mentioned? I’d rather drink bleach than attempt to read them…
 
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Read both C&P and BK. Same deal, reading "classics" I was supposed to read in HS/college. I didn't read to deeply into them, even though you get a lot of thoughtfulness even "just" reading them. I have to say I liked both, but you have to be on your game because there's a lot of twists and turns. Much like Ayn Rand books, though, he could have gotten the ideas through in 100 or 200 pages less.

If you like these, read Les Miserables by Hugo. Again a lot of twists and turns (a lot of coincidences that stretch the imagination), but an interesting story.

Finally, listen to the version of Sneaking Through The Alley w/ Sally that includes Sailin' Shoes/Hey, Hey Julia/Sneaking Through.... It is a great 9.5 minutes of Palmer at his best.
 
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Thanks for sharing the thoughts.

If I live long enough to tackle his full output, The Gambler is another one that transcends tempting. Notes From Underground didn't do it for me, but C&P is decent, so far. Read one other, way back (Demons, or the Possessed; like Notes, again too political).

That first M.Robinson--Gilead--is tempting based on current mindframe. The character introduced later--Jack--sounds maybe relevant.

While not fiction, Lovecraftian writer Thomas Ligotti's The Conspiracy Against the Human Race is a rather bountiful read for those who question the worthiness of existence. If nothing else, it has some good references for some rather 'pessimistic' literature, both via fiction and non-fiction.

Solid audible copy available here:


Leafs advance and I'll need another, past Crime and Punishment.

Present considerations:
Fernando Pessoa-The Book of Disquiet [1982]
Franz Kafka-The Judgment (1913)
Franz Kafka-The Metamorphosis (1915)
Fyodor Dostoevsky-The Brothers Karamazov (1880)
H.P. Lovecraft-At the Mountains of Madness (1936)
Herman Hesse-Steppenwolf (1927)
John Williams-Stoner (1965)
Joseph Conrad-Heart of Darkness (1899)
Kazuo Ishiguro-The Remains of the Day (1989)
Marilynne Robinson-G1-3-Gilead, Home & Lila (2004-2014)
Richard Matheson-I Am Legend (1954)
Sylvia Plath-The Bell Jar (1963)
Truman Capote-In Cold Blood (1966)
Viktor Frankl-Man's Search for Meaning (1946)

Lots of happy-clappy shit.
What can you do.

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p.s.

I think my affinity for True Detective, season 1, led me to that Ligotti.

Matthew McConaughey was a maybe a little over the top, with the cynicism, but just a little. Still one of my favorite viewing experiences, certainly for mini-series. Acting first-class and while the story was slightly convoluted, the dark side of the human drama was rather well represented, imo.
 
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Only one on the list i’ve read is Heart of Darkness. Good read. Helps understand Apocalypse Now a bit better.

Most of my stuff is on “traditional” classics like A Tale of Two Cities, 3 Musketeers and the like.

If you’re up for a challenge read Ulysses (sp?) by Joyce. Fought through it and hated every minute of it. Much like gambling through a cold spell. You ask why am i going on.
 

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About Heart of Darkness, You definitely need to pair it with King Leopold's Ghost. And if You like Africa stories written in that era, In darkest Africa (1890) is a must read. It's about Stanley's last trip through Africa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emin_Pasha_Relief_Expedition.

My favorite "brick" book is The Whale / Moby Dick by Melville. I like to read old books 1800-1890, they are so well thought and language is more describing as they are written for people who have seen nothing much in their lives (like Africa or whale hunting).

One You US readers might like is Life among Apaches by John C.Creamony 1868.

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