First , ALL NIGHT LONG , i was told that the strike was : "surgical" and the operation "cut their heads off" was a sucess !!!! 4 hours i watched this (watching as i type) ... NOW i hear that the MAIN objective was to cut off the re-fueling station !!! People , the war is not what bothers me (God forgive me) , its the PROPAGANDA that we ALL live under !!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHERE OH WHERE IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Media
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yea i musta heard 10 different stories about the launch last night. Heard the strike was planned last minute....then heard it was planned out all a long. Heard they tried to hit Saddam, then they tried to hit weapon facilities, then a fueling station....
the thing is brother....we will never know.
I have the luxury of seeing both bias sides. I get all the American news here(Fox, NBC, ABC, CNN.....) and I have my Arabic Satellite dish with Al Jazeera and Syria TV, and Dubai TV and so on and so forth...so what I do is take all the crap America media is feeding me, then all the crap Arabic media is feeding me...then I toss out the bad apples then put 2 and 2 together. ***pooof***
with having arabic satellite, you see alot more action
the thing is brother....we will never know.
I have the luxury of seeing both bias sides. I get all the American news here(Fox, NBC, ABC, CNN.....) and I have my Arabic Satellite dish with Al Jazeera and Syria TV, and Dubai TV and so on and so forth...so what I do is take all the crap America media is feeding me, then all the crap Arabic media is feeding me...then I toss out the bad apples then put 2 and 2 together. ***pooof***
with having arabic satellite, you see alot more action
Last night I tuned into local news to get some coverage, and they had a 5 minute photo essay filled with images of the flag waving, eagles flying, troops doing what they do with "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" playing in the background.
If CBS or someone wants to put together a "Rally for America" show, advertise it as such, and put it on, fine. But during the news? How 'bout some news, instead.
Really, its just important to realize in these things that what the military and administration say on TV is rarely true (with good reasons, I might add). On the other hand, people who oppose the military action and the president are not necessarily laying on the truth either.
Example: "60 Minutes" last week showed a story in which Stormin' Norman during the frist gulf war indicated we had shot down 37 out of 37 Scuds with Patriot Missiles. They talked to analysts from MIT that indicated we had shot down ZERO out of 37 scuds. Regardless of which side was right, you got someone on the TV telling you the complet eopposite of what someone else is saying. Someone is either lying or mistaken. [btw, the US has admitted the patriots weren't quite as effective as we were led to believe in the first war]
Lots of impressive language comes out of these things (smart bombs, surgical strikes, etc.) but the reality can be quite different.
If CBS or someone wants to put together a "Rally for America" show, advertise it as such, and put it on, fine. But during the news? How 'bout some news, instead.
Really, its just important to realize in these things that what the military and administration say on TV is rarely true (with good reasons, I might add). On the other hand, people who oppose the military action and the president are not necessarily laying on the truth either.
Example: "60 Minutes" last week showed a story in which Stormin' Norman during the frist gulf war indicated we had shot down 37 out of 37 Scuds with Patriot Missiles. They talked to analysts from MIT that indicated we had shot down ZERO out of 37 scuds. Regardless of which side was right, you got someone on the TV telling you the complet eopposite of what someone else is saying. Someone is either lying or mistaken. [btw, the US has admitted the patriots weren't quite as effective as we were led to believe in the first war]
Lots of impressive language comes out of these things (smart bombs, surgical strikes, etc.) but the reality can be quite different.
What agravated me was that they started out by saying they had no idea what happened. Then they talked for 2 hours with experts who also had no idea. I do not think it is necessary to watch every bomb fall. Get the tv cameras out of Iraq and let the military do what it has to do. I am against the war but it has started so...GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE!
the media is soooooooooo fawking nosy. I mean I know they have a job to do....but damn, stay the fawk out.
the problem is they all want to be the first to release a big story... so NONE of them wait till all the facts are in... they pick up tidbits of info then put it on TV..
pisses me off too..:nono:
pisses me off too..:nono:
A perfect example of the media being sometimes out of control was the 2000 presidential election. How many times did the networks go back & forth about who won Florida.It must have been at least a half dozen times first declaring that Gore won, then switching to Bush, and so on. As Gibber said that the networks are in such a hurry to beat their competitors to a big story, that their credibility takes a hit.
an easy solution
an easy solution
if you are a lefty,put on cnn(pictures of refugees and reports of american military confusion)..............
if you are a righty,put on fox(reports that the republican guard getting ready to lay down their arms).....
if you are somewhere in the middle,msnbc is fairly objective....
an easy solution
if you are a lefty,put on cnn(pictures of refugees and reports of american military confusion)..............
if you are a righty,put on fox(reports that the republican guard getting ready to lay down their arms).....
if you are somewhere in the middle,msnbc is fairly objective....
Right, weasel. Or at least realize that what you're getting is biased.
The TV tries to always portray itself as unbiased, when in fact it is not. In other media, its not like that.
Everyone knows what they're getting when they pick up a Mother Jones, or "The Standard" or something. TV likes to pretend it's giving you an unbiased presentation. Just got to realize it that its virtually impossible to put news on without a slant, and deal with it.
Hellah -- I can't really get on board with what you're saying. Maybe as it applies to the news peeking into private lives, but not when it comes to war. I want to see it all. The bad and the good. The dead babies, the heroes, the criminals, the liberated, the liberators. People should realize what they're getting into when they support/oppose a war.
The TV tries to always portray itself as unbiased, when in fact it is not. In other media, its not like that.
Everyone knows what they're getting when they pick up a Mother Jones, or "The Standard" or something. TV likes to pretend it's giving you an unbiased presentation. Just got to realize it that its virtually impossible to put news on without a slant, and deal with it.
Hellah -- I can't really get on board with what you're saying. Maybe as it applies to the news peeking into private lives, but not when it comes to war. I want to see it all. The bad and the good. The dead babies, the heroes, the criminals, the liberated, the liberators. People should realize what they're getting into when they support/oppose a war.
I agree with Global here. Our news outlets are basically state television at this point. Absolutely no questioning of anything said or done by the government whatsoever.
nick
nick
all due respect,but,what country are you living in?......all i see on the networks and cnn are protestors all over this country and the world...having trouble getting any info on the war...were you serious or were you being facetious...cause if you believe the judy woodruff`s,dan rather`s and peter jennings` are reporting support for the administration,i`d be very surprised......to be fair,as i switch around,fox is reporting that members of the iraqi republican guard and the special republican guard WANT to surrender.......i honestly don`t know what WANT to surrender means and how they come by that information....are they shouting at one another across the desert?.....that one sounds a bit propaganda-like....
nick
all due respect,but,what country are you living in?......all i see on the networks and cnn are protestors all over this country and the world...having trouble getting any info on the war...were you serious or were you being facetious...cause if you believe the judy woodruff`s,dan rather`s and peter jennings` are reporting support for the administration,i`d be very surprised......to be fair,as i switch around,fox is reporting that members of the iraqi republican guard and the special republican guard WANT to surrender.......i honestly don`t know what WANT to surrender means and how they come by that information....are they shouting at one another across the desert?.....that one sounds a bit propaganda-like....
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have to agree with you weasel,
nick,
to steal your statement from morriss thread.
what an idiotic statement!
viewers are constantly bombbarded w/ anit bush anti govt bull plop...
every time you turn on the tv you see Susan and Sheen.. and a bunch of out work beatniks pouring fake blood on themselves having die-ins...
25,000 people showed up for a support our troops rally in Atlanta
10,000 in Philly
another 10,000 in Ohio...
yet i bet you didnt know that b/c it wasnt covered on TV...
yet i did see a bunch of Arabs burning american flags and rioting in the streets a second ago.. they even interviewd a nice arab fellow who was kind enough to mention that the USA was an arrogant empire..that empire will soon crumble.. and that we are right for destruction...
40 euorpean countries have sided w/ the US.. but you dont hear that.. you hear.. france, germany, and russia..
the liberals control every aspect of the media except one.. the radio.. and now they are trying to take over that too..
nick,
to steal your statement from morriss thread.
what an idiotic statement!
viewers are constantly bombbarded w/ anit bush anti govt bull plop...
every time you turn on the tv you see Susan and Sheen.. and a bunch of out work beatniks pouring fake blood on themselves having die-ins...
25,000 people showed up for a support our troops rally in Atlanta
10,000 in Philly
another 10,000 in Ohio...
yet i bet you didnt know that b/c it wasnt covered on TV...
yet i did see a bunch of Arabs burning american flags and rioting in the streets a second ago.. they even interviewd a nice arab fellow who was kind enough to mention that the USA was an arrogant empire..that empire will soon crumble.. and that we are right for destruction...
40 euorpean countries have sided w/ the US.. but you dont hear that.. you hear.. france, germany, and russia..
the liberals control every aspect of the media except one.. the radio.. and now they are trying to take over that too..
theGibber1 said:
iam no liberal, or lefty, or righty...
but omg - Rush Limbaugh...I just wanna choke that guy
just thinking about him - just makes me shakes my head
fawking msnbc just apologized to protestors for not giving their protest more coverage.. they said they were distracted by the war and spent to much time covering it even when nothing was happening!
fawking gag me..
:thefinger
fawking gag me..
:thefinger
Limbaugh speaks the truth.....some of you just dont want to hear it...
MTV made me want to gag today....all they did today was the anti-American sentiment around the world and in our country and tell us how evil Bush is....
MTV made me want to gag today....all they did today was the anti-American sentiment around the world and in our country and tell us how evil Bush is....
1000 man protest in chicago.. getting all kinds of coverage..
1000???
what about this
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/03052003atl.shtml
you dont see this
1000???
what about this
http://www.glennbeck.com/news/03052003atl.shtml
you dont see this
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a few thousand protesters in a nation of nearly 300 million...and they get more coverage than anything else....i will admit that it looks a little more intense in foreign countries(and san francisco,which i sometimes think may be another planet):shrug: ....
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a few thousand protesters in a nation of nearly 300 million...and they get more coverage than anything else....i will admit that it looks a little more intense in foreign countries(and san francisco,which i sometimes think may be another planet):shrug: ....
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Nick - how can you actually believe what you are saying? State-controlled television? Nothing said about questioning the government? Every station I have watched has provided more than necessary time to the various protests around the country - protests that maybe 5-10,000 people are participating in. That is a rather small segment of society I would say. Yet, they still get their air time - and I haven't noticed any bias in the reporting. Of course, it appears that you believe everyone is wearing blinders but you. Have you watched the press conferences? I have seen several reporters questioning the government's position and actions. I fully expect a barrage of moron, idiot, stupid, and uninformed back in my direction as that is how you have responded to anyone who dares to disagree with your opinions. So excuse me, I have to go watch some state-controlled television so I will know what to think. Certainly none of "us" have the required intellect to make our own decision.
propaganda.....BINGO!!!
as an aside....the best thing that happened this aft....was when dan rather was supposed to get a report from one of the cbs dudes in iraq....a guy comes on the phone and yells...."BABABOOEY you idiot"....HA HA HA HA....*LOL*
LONG LIVE HOWIE the king of all media!!!
as an aside....the best thing that happened this aft....was when dan rather was supposed to get a report from one of the cbs dudes in iraq....a guy comes on the phone and yells...."BABABOOEY you idiot"....HA HA HA HA....*LOL*
LONG LIVE HOWIE the king of all media!!!
