The Obama We Don't Know

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this is an op-ed piece from the wall street journal...


June 4, 2008

With Barack Obama clinching the Democratic Party nomination, it is worth noting what an extraordinary moment this is. Democrats are nominating a freshman Senator barely three years out of the Illinois legislature whom most of America still hardly knows. The polls say he is the odds-on favorite to become our next President.

Think about this in historical context. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton were relatively unknown, but both had at least been prominent Governors. John Kerry, Walter Mondale, Al Gore and even George McGovern were all long-time Washington figures. Republican nominees tend to be even more familiar, for better or worse. In Mr. Obama, Democrats are taking a leap of faith that is daring even by their risky standards.

No doubt this is part of his enormous appeal. Amid public anger over politics as usual, the Illinois Senator is unhaunted by Beltway experience. His personal story ? of mixed race, and up from nowhere through Harvard ? resonates in an America where the two most popular cultural icons are Tiger Woods and Oprah. His political gifts are formidable, especially his ability to connect with audiences from the platform.

Above all, Mr. Obama has fashioned a message that fits the political moment and the public's desire for "change." At his best, he offers Americans tired of war and political rancor the promise of fresh national unity and purpose. Young people in particular are taken by it. But more than a few Republicans are also drawn to this "postpartisan" vision.

Mr. Obama has also shown great skill in running his campaign. No one ? including us ? gave him much chance of defeating the Clinton machine. No doubt he benefited from the desire of even many Democrats to impeach the polarizing Clinton era. But he also beat Hillary and Bill at their own game. He raised more money, and he outworked them in the small-state caucuses that provided him with his narrow delegate margin. Even now, he is far better organized in swing states than is John McCain's campaign. All of this speaks well of his preparation for November, and perhaps for his potential to govern.

Yet govern how and to what end? This is the Obama Americans don't know. For all of his inspiring rhetoric about bipartisanship, his voting record is among the most partisan in the Senate. His policy agenda is conventionally liberal across the board ? more so than Hillary Clinton's, and more so than that of any Democratic nominee since 1968.

We can't find a single issue on which Mr. Obama has broken with his party's left-wing interest groups. Early on he gave a bow to merit pay for teachers, but that quickly sank beneath the waves of new money he wants to spend on the same broken public schools. He takes the Teamsters line against free trade, to the point of unilaterally rewriting Nafta. He wants to raise taxes even above the levels of the Clinton era, including a huge increase in the payroll tax. Perhaps now Mr. Obama will tack to the center, but somehow he will have to explain why the "change" he's proposing isn't merely more of the same, circa 1965.

There is also the matter of judgment, and the roots of his political character. We were among those inclined at first to downplay his association with the Trinity United Church. But Mr. Obama's handling of the episode has raised doubts about his candor and convictions. He has by stages moved from denying that his 20-year attendance was an issue at all; to denying he'd heard Rev. Jeremiah Wright's incendiary remarks; to criticizing certain of those remarks while praising Rev. Wright himself; to repudiating the words and the reverend; and finally this weekend to leaving the church.

Most disingenuously, he said on Saturday that the entire issue caught him by surprise. Yet he was aware enough of the political risk that he kept Rev. Wright off the stage during his announcement speech more than a year ago.

A 2004 Chicago Sun-Times interview with Mr. Obama mentioned three men as his religious guides. One was Rev. Wright. Another was Father Michael Pfleger, the Louis Farrakhan ally whose recent remarks caused Mr. Obama to resign from Trinity, but for whose Chicago church Mr. Obama channeled at least $225,000 in grants as a state senator. Until recently, the priest was connected to the campaign, which flew him to Iowa to host an interfaith forum. Father Pfleger's testimony for the candidate has since been scrubbed from Mr. Obama's campaign Web site. A third mentor was Illinois state Senator James Meeks, another Chicago pastor who has generated controversy for mixing pulpit and politics.

The point is not that Mr. Obama now shares the radical views of these men. The concern is that by the Senator's own admission they have been major moral influences, and their views are starkly at odds with the candidate's vision as a transracial peacemaker. Their patronage was also useful as Mr. Obama was making his way in Chicago politics. But only now, in the glare of a national campaign, is he distancing himself from them. The question is what in fact Mr. Obama does believe.

The young Senator has been a supernova exploding into our politics, more phenomenon than conventional candidate. His achievement in winning the Democratic nomination has been impressive. Now comes a harder audience. The presidency has to be earned, and Americans have a right to know much more about the gifted man who is the least tested and experienced major party nominee in modern times.
 

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yeah i know gw....some people are caught up in obama's oratory skills...not the content of his platform...

But anything said that is negative about him is just the republican mud slinging machine. I don't know the "truth" about any politicians because their job, above all else, is to not let us know.

It will be hard to decipher in the coming months what is BS marketing against Obama and what is truly cautionary traits.

That's why I will be depending on the elites of the MadJack's political forum to help me cast my vote. :)
 

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i know one thing...he said last night he would stop the rising of the seas....

that`s pretty damned impressive...

who is this man, that even the wind and the waves are at his command?......a hothouse flower child who can't deal with reality?...


nope...it`s "THE BOCK!!"..

he`s got many admirers..near and....far...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g

it`s all about the "O"....
 

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I know this about Obama, he ain't a Clinton and he ain't McCain. Those are the positives. Now, what does he bring to the table? I dunno. At worst he is a closet Neocon and we are no worse off than if we voted in Hillary or McCain.
 

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heres something important that all you libs that have turned on hillary had better think long and hard about....

we`ve seen that barryo is weakest in the swing states the dems need to win......

shrill killed obama in exactly the states that dems need. ......obama won in states that will go dem or repub no matter who is running....

in most of the swing states, obama is weak and will become even weaker as the repubs expose more and more of his radical ties....

he can't spin himself out of that,imo...either he believes in those radical ideas or he used radicals expediently to leverage his political career.....either way, he comes out looking bad and alienating even more of middle america...

so,far as i can tell,it`s a bock/hill-bill co-presidency....or,he very well could lose to mccain,if he hurts hillary`s feelings....

hillary`s on the ticket...unless they can placate her with something else...and i don`t know what that would be...

she`s making that decision...he`d better play ball...or give her something equally juicy(and i really don`t know what that could be)...
 

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that sums it up pretty much stevie...

I would ask you not to quote me out of context.

Why must those of us who were right about Bush and Iraq always have to defend ourselves from those of you who were wrong?:mj07:
 

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I would ask you not to quote me out of context.

Why must those of us who were right about Bush and Iraq always have to defend ourselves from those of you who were wrong?:mj07:

that's not a quote out of context stevie....

don't know if you are right about iraq or bush....we will wait for historians to determine that & not people on a sports forum...but one thing has nothing to do with the other....
 

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I will keep open mind now that the guy I like is out.
I listen to Obama talk to APAIC this AM. It was very good. Almost as good as night before. If MC Cain takes Mitt as VP I may go that way. If REB's start throwing there regular chit then I will crosse them off. I do know one thing the Wall Street Above Is now own by same dude that owns Fox News. So I know where that slant goes.
 

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that's not a quote out of context stevie....

don't know if you are right about iraq or bush....we will wait for historians to determine that & not people on a sports forum...but one thing has nothing to do with the other....
Of course it is a quote out of context. You take 4 words out of a sentance. Qoute the whole idea not just a couple of words. You are good guy, wrong as can be about Bush and Iraq but still a good guy. In the future if you are going to quote me take the entire idea not just a few words.
 

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Of course it is a quote out of context. You take 4 words out of a sentance. Qoute the whole idea not just a couple of words. You are good guy, wrong as can be about Bush and Iraq but still a good guy. In the future if you are going to quote me take the entire idea not just a few words.

thanks stevie...you're a good guy also...the sky is falling type of guy but a good guy non-the-less....

the quote was meant in fun stevie...i apologize if i insulted you..but i still don't think it was taken out of context...

i voted for clinton twice, then gore..& i gave bush the benefit of the doubt in 04 because of 9/11...

if you look at my previous posts about the iraq war....i had no problem going in after saddam but i was very critical with the amount of soldiers that were used for the war...i felt & still feel that if we had the amount that colin powell wanted (400,000), we wouldn't be in this mess...& btw..mccain felt the same way.....but that's all behind us now...

i have to cut this post off now because i don't want the repetition monitor to scold me for repeating myself...
 

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I don't know if any is wrong. But slant will be pointed in way they would like photo left in your mind. Most that story is just repeat stuff I see on Fox every night time from that little ball of hate Hannity. You only need to watch 10 min's.
 

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Of course it is a quote out of context. You take 4 words out of a sentance. Qoute the whole idea not just a couple of words. You are good guy, wrong as can be about Bush and Iraq but still a good guy. In the future if you are going to quote me take the entire idea not just a few words.

Instead of banging your head against the wall Stevie maybe you can give them this to read but im not sure lying is a big problem with them. Any sane clear American thinker should be totally disgusted with what this administration has pulled. Any clear thinker i said. Its an absolute disgrace with everything in front of ones nose that they can still defend these criminals. http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/24/935_lies_and_counting_study_counts
 

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Instead of banging your head against the wall Stevie maybe you can give them this to read but im not sure lying is a big problem with them. Any sane clear American thinker should be totally disgusted with what this administration has pulled. Any clear thinker i said. Its an absolute disgrace with everything in front of ones nose that they can still defend these criminals. http://www.democracynow.org/2008/1/24/935_lies_and_counting_study_counts

It is amazing to me that they still defend him as if everything that has happened since he put us in Iraq has been some kind of an accident. Now, we are supposed to stay in Iraq because these same liars say that we will be letting Iraqi's down? They still believe the same liars. And if they were not lying it is their job to know the truth. So they have been wrong on everything! But you know what Sponge, they will dismiss your article because it was from a liberal site or some such nonsense. Do they ever ask themselves how come the "Liberal Press" hasn't picked up on it?
 
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