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Now here we have Wendell Potter a huge insider with Cigna, having a conscience and coming forward. He explains how Michael Moore and his movie sicko, was smeared allowing the simple minded in this country to once again think Moore is somehow a bad guy. You can shape a weak persons mind any way u want in this country because they can't spot a scam even if the scammer tells them it is a scam. Maggot, im am sure u are very proud of these typical right wing smear tactics and how they always seem to pop up when profits are in jeopardy for a bunch of selfish rotten pricks. They work tho as u can see all the weak hands on this site who fell for it hook, line, and sinker. You can't make it any more black or white. Let me repeat again for guys like Dog's. Wendell Potter a HUGE insider for Cigna and former shitbag himself, comes forward!!!!!!!! Oh and in the beginning the lovely Maryland congressman who fought like hell to keep healthcare away from the citizens of this country and his first day of work, he is wondering where his Gov't health care is. :shrug: You can't make shit like this up. Fuking deceiving hypocrite. Oh by the way Potter has apologized to Moore. Something half of this nation should be doing. These are the kinds of things Olberman brings to the public and it is why he is the best guy for the facts on TV today. Anyone who doesn't agree with that is nothing more then a gullible nitwit to begin with.
http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mike-in-the-news/wendell-potter-anti-sicko
 
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Me and Whistleblower Wendell Potter on Olbermann Tonight: "We Knew as Much About Michael Moore as He Knows About Himself"

(L to R) Alex Potter, Michael Moore and an incognito Wendell Potter at a screening of "SiCKO" on June 16, 2007
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By Michael Moore

Tonight at 8:00 PM ET on Keith Olbermann's show on MSNBC I will meet for the very first time the man the health industry sent to Michigan to, in his words, "spy" and do "reconnaissance" so they could try to defame me and my movie ("We knew as much about him probably as he knows about himself").

Tonight I'll get to talk to former Humana and CIGNA health insurance executive Wendell Potter, the man who has bravely come forward to expose not just the hundreds of thousands they spent trying to destroy "Sicko," but more importantly how they profit in the billions from a system that kills 45,000 Americans a year who are uninsured.

Actually, it turns out tonight won't be the FIRST time I meet Wendell. He wrote this morning on his blog that he flew to the little village where I lived in Michigan to attend a screening I was having for the people in the area. He even walked into the reception we had beforehand and got his picture taken with me. His blog reads, in part:

"I need to apologize to Moore for the role I played in the insurance industry's public relations attack campaign against him and "Sicko," which was about the increasingly unfair and dysfunctional U.S. health care system...[W]hile I was still working for the insurance industry, I traveled as an industry spy...to attend the official U.S. premiere of Sicko on June 16, 2007. Moore and I actually met that day, although he doesn't know it. (I didn't tell him who I was or who I worked for.) The picture accompanying this blog, taken at a pre-screening reception by another movie-goer, shows me on Moore's left and my son, Alex, on his right. Alex, who has always been a big fan of Moore's, traveled with me on the reconnaissance mission. Moore even autographed a "Sicko" poster for Alex. It's quite a memento."

If you're free tonight, tune in to Keith's show. I know I'm looking forward to meeting the man who ran over my "baby."
 

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Is America on the path to 'permanent war'? By John Blake, CNN
November 24, 2010 9:21 a.m. EST


CNN -- When the president decided to send more troops to a distant country during an unpopular war, one powerful senator had enough.

He warned that the U.S. military could not create stability in a country "where there is chaos ... democracy where there is no tradition of it, and honest government where corruption is almost a way of life."

"It's unnatural and unhealthy for a nation to be engaged in global crusades for some principle or idea while neglecting the needs of its own people," said Sen. J. William Fulbright, then chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, in 1966 as the Vietnam War escalated.

Fulbright's warning is being applied by some to Afghanistan today. The U.S. is still fighting dubious wars abroad while ignoring needs at home, says Andrew J. Bacevich, who tells Fulbright's story in his new book, "Washington Rules: America's Path To Permanent War."

As the Afghanistan war enters its ninth year, Bacevich and other commentators are asking: When does it end? They say the nation's national security leaders have put the U.S. on an unsustainable path to perpetual war and that President Obama is doing little to stop them.

No one wants a permanent war ... but the people we're fighting against have already declared permanent war against us.

--Thomas Cushman, scholar and author
Bacevich has become a leading voice among anti-war critics. He is a retired colonel in the U.S. Army, a former West Point instructor and a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

He's also a Boston University international relations professor who offers a historical perspective with his criticism. He says Obama has been ensnared by the "Washington Rules," a set of assumptions that have guided presidents since Harry Truman.

The rules say that the U.S. should act as a global policeman. "Fixing Iraq or Afghanistan ends up taking precedence over fixing Cleveland or Detroit," Bacevich writes.

His solution: The U.S. should stop deploying a "global occupation force" and focus on nation-building at home.

"The job is too big," he says of the U.S. global military presence. "We don't have enough money. We don't have enough troops. There's a growing recognition that the amount of red ink we're spilling is unsustainable."

Thomas Cushman, author of "A Matter of Principle: Humanitarian Argument for War in Iraq," says Bacevich is mimicking isolationists who argued before World War II that the U.S. couldn't afford to get involved in other country's affairs.

"No one wants a permanent war, and nobody would argue that our resources could be better spent at home," Cushman says. "But the people we're fighting against have already declared permanent war against us."

Does Obama buy into the "Washington Rules"?

The questions about the Afghanistan War come at a pivotal moment. The Obama administration plans to review its Afghanistan strategy next month.

The president had pledged to start withdrawing some U.S. troops next July. Obama and NATO allies in Afghanistan recently announced that combat operations will now last until 2014.

Those dates matter little to Bacevich.

"Obama will not make a dent in the American penchant for permanent war," he says. "After he made the 2009 decision to escalate and prolong the war, it indicated quite clearly that he was either unwilling or unable to attempt a large-scale change."

Bacevich says the notion that the U.S. military has to stay in Afghanistan to deny al Qaeda a sanctuary doesn't "pass the laugh test."

"If you could assure me that staying in Afghanistan as long as it takes will deny al Qaeda a sanctuary anywhere in the world, then it might be worth our interests," he says. "Pakistan can provide a sanctuary. Yemen can provide a sanctuary. Hamburg [Germany] can provide a sanctuary. ''

John Cioffi, a political science professor at University of California, Riverside, says the nation's "increasingly unhinged ideological politics" makes it difficult for the country to extract itself from battles in Afghanistan, Iraq and Central Asia.

"The U.S. is not on the path to permanent war; it is in the midst of a permanent war," Cioffi says.

Permanent war is made possible by massive defense spending that has been viewed as untouchable. But that may change with the recent financial crisis and the decline of the nation's industry, Cioffi says.

More ordinary Americans might conclude that they can't have a vibrant domestic economy and unquestioned military spending, Cioffi says.

"All this points to a time in the future when the government will no longer have the resources or popular support to maintain what amounts to an imperial military presence around the world," he says.

Yet leaders in the nation's largest political parties may still ignore popular will, says Michael Boyle, a political science professor at La Salle University in Pennsylvania.

"While the public tends to be much more concerned with domestic issues, both the Democratic and Republican foreign policy establishments tend to be more internationalist and outward-looking," Boyle says. "This makes them far more willing to conclude that nation-building missions in Afghanistan are essential to national security."

Birth of the 'Washington Rules'

The debate over permanent war may sound academic, but it's also personal for Bacevich.

Fixing Iraq or Afghanistan ends up taking precedence over fixing Cleveland and Detroit.

--Andrew J. Bacevich, author and historian

His son, a U.S. Army officer, was killed in Iraq, a war he opposes. And Bacevich has written several other books on the limits of American military power, including "The Limits of Power: The End of American Exceptionalism."

Bacevich says the Washington Rules emerged when America was exceptional -- right after World War II when a newly empowered U.S. deployed a global military presence to contain communism and spread democracy.

Communism's threat has disappeared, but U.S. leaders continue to identify existential threats to justify the nation's global military empire, Bacevich says.

The cost of that military empire is immense: The U.S. now spends $700 billion annually on its military, as much money as the defense budgets of rest of the world combined, he says.:scared :scared

Bacevich says the Founding Fathers would be aghast. They thought that "self-mastery should take precedence over mastering others."

"It's not that the Founding Fathers were isolationists or oblivious to the world beyond our shores," Bacevich says. "Their reading of history led them to believe that empire was incompatible with republican forms of government and a large standing army posed a threat to liberty."

What Bacevich's critics say

William C. Martel, author of "Victory in War," says the U.S. didn't build a global military presence after World War II out of hubris but because of necessity. Much of the world had been destroyed in 1945.

"We had no option but to be engaged as a global leader," he says. "If we did not stand up to totalitarianism, the world would have been a much worse place."

Martel, an associate professor of international security studies at The Fletcher School at Tufts University in Massachusetts, says the U.S. must have a global military presence to confront radical groups that seek weapons of mass destruction.

The U.S. military may fight in Afghanistan "for years." But it's also been in Germany and Japan for decades, Martel says.

"We have a $14 trillion a year economy," Martel says. "We're spending roughly 4 percent of our GDP on defense. That's historically where we've been for decades. I don't see that as unaffordable."

Permanent war can, perversely, boost the nation's economy, says Jerald Podair, a history professor at Lawrence University in Wisconsin.

After World War II, most observers predicted a return to the Depression, Podair says. But Cold War military spending drove the nation's economy to its longest period of sustained economic expansion in history.

Transferring military money to domestic needs will not stimulate the American economy the same way war spending will, Podair says.

"It is sad to say that 'war is the health of the state,' but during the last 70 years, that has generally proved to be true," Podair says. "Unfortunately, the United States may have to 'fight' its way out of recession, just as it did during World War II and the Cold War."

Obama, though, might fight his way to a presidential defeat in the 2012 election if he doesn't find a way to pull the U.S. off the path to permanent war, Bacevich says.

If Obama is still waging war in Afghanistan in 2012, he'll be in trouble, he says.

"That's going to pose difficulty for him in running for re-election because many of the people who voted for him in 2008 did so because they were convinced that he was going to bring about change in Washington," Bacevich says. "But the perpetuation of war wouldn't amount to change."

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Keep up the good fight Spongie !!!

Keep up the good fight Spongie !!!

Republicans and these New Tea Swillers are so stupid it boggles the mind.

Sarah Palin Christine O Donnel Glen Beck ..don't think their cumulative IQ's come to 100. What ever happened to William F Buckly....the last Conservative that had a clue or even an intellect.

These Premature ejaculating RW males and Masturbation denial shrews shd be tasered rounded up an put on a Reservation or Internment Camp. But do i ever get what i want ???????????
 

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Republicans and these New Tea Swillers are so stupid it boggles the mind.

Sarah Palin Christine O Donnel Glen Beck ..don't think their cumulative IQ's come to 100. What ever happened to William F Buckly....the last Conservative that had a clue or even an intellect.

These Premature ejaculating RW males and Masturbation denial shrews shd be tasered rounded up an put on a Reservation or Internment Camp. But do i ever get what i want ???????????

WHAT ! ? ! ?

Yes, it does boggle the mind, reading your post has given more of brain freeze than a Sour Apple Slurpee!

So based on your post, you are anti First A and pro-indoctrination to your way of skewed thought.

The Diveded States of America has already gone the route of Reservations, how has that worked out? We also have tried Internment camps, that our biased media only reports that Japanese Americans were "Relocated" Do some research on your own and find out who else were pulled out of their homes and businesses.

Oh, and BTW, keep sucking your thumb and play the change game all you want. You will get your wish from the inside of a camp with the razor wire pointing in.
 

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Our government is full of Goldman Sachs guys controlling the Treasury and former healthcare execs have infiltrated the departments that are supposed to be looking out for our well-being. We're completely fucked. We will have insiders coming out one after another and nothing will be done because the people responsible for this shit are the ones that are supposed to police it.

Let's keep the two party system going strong and keep voting them in office. I'll keep "wasting" my vote in protest while everyone else gets played like a fiddle.
 
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