To all the Seachicken whiners

[gjn23]

I'm a Seahawks fan and I can even admit that it was a pretty boring game. I guess I don't understand the point of the thread though. He complains that people won't stop talking about it, but then he feeds the hype by posting over and over?

it's all i've heard for 2 days on espn, espn radio, local sports talk, and local seachicken fans......frankly it's getting sickening (kind of wish they would have just gotten their asses handed to them) and i finally found someone with a bit of common sense that wrote an article which is dead on.

this super bowl cant get out of my mind soon enough....absolutely terrible and boring.....almost like the giants-ravens.....in 4 months i'll be wondering who the hell played in the 2006 super bowl

 

[RexBudler]

:mj07: Aaaaaallriiiight! By the way, you've done pretty well with your Pac-10 hoops picks. I don't play a lot of hoops but when I do it's Pac-10. I've made a killing going against OSU this year. They're awful.

Thanks bro and you are right, they have been rather pitiful.....I think ASU might beat em up on Thursday

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

This is the EXACT rationale that is ass backwards.

Hasselbeck's INTERCEPTION cost Seattle 7, not the holding call. Open your eyes

But the interception came 2 plays after the holding call. I think the thinking is that if the holding call, which certainly didn't look like a hold and also had an offsides that wasn't called, never took place, it would have been first and goal from the 1. Hass wouldn't have even been in a position to throw the ball at that point, hence no pick.

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

it's all i've heard for 2 days on espn, espn radio, local sports talk, and local seachicken fans......frankly it's getting sickening (kind of wish they would have just gotten their asses handed to them) and i finally found someone with a bit of common sense that wrote an article which is dead on.

this super bowl cant get out of my mind soon enough....absolutely terrible and boring.....almost like the giants-ravens.....in 4 months i'll be wondering who the hell played in the 2006 super bowl

I'll admit that I never thought about this from an outsider's perspective. I'm in Seattle so I'm immersed in it. But someone who doesn't like the Steelers or Seahawks could probably give two shits about it. It's kind of like being inundated with frigging Ashton Kutcher or some other jackmonkey on TV all the time.

And FWIW, I agree. I would have much rather seen the Seahawks get blown out. There would be no controversy if that were the case...

 

[DeDe]

just what i posted, all the talk was on the bad officiating and NOT THE STEELERS WINNING THE SUPERBOWL..seems like alot of people saw just how bad the calls were.. stinks that this is all the talk..pitt can't feel too good winning this game..given to them..all the talk

 

[DerekNJND]

no shit

in the pantheon of horribly officiated games where some team got totally screwed........this game wasnt even close to being that bad.

Another GREAT POINT! Everyone is pointing out 4-6 bad calls that "cost" seattle the game. You can point out 4-6 bad calls, probably MORE in any given game, what makes this one so special?

The bottom line is that Pittsburgh played their B- game and still won, despite Seattle playing a B+ game. Neither team had their A game and alot of people are having a hard time swallowing the fact that Pittsburgh pulled this game out with only 3 big plays that went for about 150 yards combined.

Its just a coincidence that the calls seemed to be going Pittsburgh's way as well. Officiating is a wild card people use to explain the "unexplicable". In a game where Pittsburgh played well enough to LOSE by 11, those in disbelief are using the refs to explain the discrepancy.

Move on. Refs will always be human. They will miss calls. They will have DISCRETION to make calls or NOT make calls. They will exercise that discretion whenever the fuk they want. This is nothing new its football. Teams will also continue to win games when they bring their B- game and when they get outplayed, its part of sports. But it is RIDICULOUS to blame Seattle's loss on the refs. Absolutely absurd.

 

[gjn23]

Thanks bro and you are right, they have been rather pitiful.....I think ASU might beat em up on Thursday

asu-osu

:scared

man.....what a horrible game.....heard fontenot is suspended and not making the trip

thought osu would be improved this year but they are a major disappointment

 

[DerekNJND]

But the interception came 2 plays after the holding call. I think the thinking is that if the holding call, which certainly didn't look like a hold and also had an offsides that wasn't called, never took place, it would have been first and goal from the 1. Hass wouldn't have even been in a position to throw the ball at that point, hence no pick.

you can NOT assume that. That is the whole point of the article Gin posted. The refs didnt physically cause Hasselbeck to throw an INT. Last time I checked there are 4 downs, not 1!!

The Joe Montanas go back out there on 2nd down and throw a TD pass, fukk 1st and goal. And if they get another one called back, they go out on 3RD DOWN and throw ANOTHER TD PASS! Instead Hasselbeck threw a pick.

 

[ELVIS]

You arent serious?

The offensive pi is a 4 point penalty.

The holding penalty cost Seattle another 7. Not to mention Pitt was offsides on the play which of course also wasnt called.

What was the final score?

And that doesnt even get into the no calls on Pitt, or the fact that the bogus hasselback penalty put Pitt in the field position to call the trick play - they dont run that play - another 7 points - unless they are across midfield.

Heck nobody even discusses the Stevens incomplete call that was a fumble, or they cite it as a plus for Seattle. Fact is the ball rolled out of bounds at the Pitt 10. If thatis ruled correctly, instead of blown dead, Seattle has first/goal instead of punting.

another good point. the stevens incomplete was a fumble. my wife pointed this out as well. maybe we need some female refs in profootball - :talk:

 

[Glenn Quagmire]

you can NOT assume that. That is the whole point of the article Gin posted. The refs didnt physically cause Hasselbeck to throw an INT. Last time I checked there are 4 downs, not 1!!

Funny how you completely glossed over the part about the holding call. I never said Hass' pick wasn't huge, what I said was the "penalty" that was called two plays before is what put them in a passing situation to begin with it. Without the penalty it's first and goal from the 1 and there is no 15-20 yard pass thrown over the middle.

As for your other post... it's absurd to say the refs didn't have a part in Seattle's loss huh? I give you credit for trying to sell it, but nobody's buying it. Well, maybe gjn, but nobody who doesn't actually have an axe to grind.

By the way, aren't you the guy who is in law school? That would explain the weak, yet drawn-out circular reasoning. I'm going to log off rather than read more of your drivel...

 

[DerekNJND]

Funny how you completely glossed over the part about the holding call. I never said Hass' pick wasn't huge, what I said was the "penalty" that was called two plays before is what put them in a passing situation to begin with it. Without the penalty it's first and goal from the 1 and there is no 15-20 yard pass thrown over the middle.

And what i'm saying is that you cant even assume Seattle wouldve scored on that first and goal. See: Indy vs. Pitt

Seattle couldnt sustain a full drive all game. Their lone TD came when they were set up in the red zone by the INT return. The pick was just ANOTHER EXAMPLE of them not being able to finish. The offense looked out of snyc EVERY TIME THEY CROSSED THE 50. Missed FG's, TERRIBLE clock management, poor play calling, etc.

The holding call is being used as a bailout for an offense that couldnt finish even when there werent penalties. How do you distinguish the other 6 or 7 drives that ended without scores, when NO penalties were called?

Maybe a better choice after the holding call would have been to get 5-10 yards and settle for a FG. At that point in the game, a FG would have been FINE. Nobody forced Hasselbeck to throw deep and get it all. He did and threw a pick. His mistake not the refs.

 

[edludes]

Yeah why complain when the team that "won" had a qb with a rating of 22 for the game,never before has a qb with a rating under 25 "won" a playoff game.The steelers also lost the time of possession battle,the turnover battle,and had less yardage,and thats before the yds Seattle had called back on their mysterious,very timely penalties.Derek and gjn23,you guys are lightweight fans,not handicappers,if you can't objectively admit what you saw was highway robbery.Jack should permantently move all your "posts" to this fandicapper forum,your comments are wafer thin.

 

[edludes]

By the way a team with a qb rating of less than 25 wins less than 3% in the regular season.

 

[gjn23]

why the debate.....here's why they won....they had 3 big plays that resulted in points...seattle had 1 that resulted in a td on the next play.....other than that seattle shot themselves in the foot with missed fg's, poor play calling, poor time mgmt, and penalties that were actually penalties (or close enough to penalties that the ref who happened to be 3 feet away saw them as penalties)

personally i think all the ref talk is taking away from the fact that seattle absolutely butchered the game away at the end of both halves.......have you ever seen a team on the fringe of fg range with the clock ticking down at the end of a half AND a timeout stand there and waste 20-25 seconds like seattle did....EVER?
why isn't the fat man called out on this????????? why is he given the free pass to "blame the refs".........why did he feel the need to throw deep everytime seattle got down to the pitt 30-40 when the short high % passes were killing pitt early????? why is the fatman given a free pass on this??????

the calls were 50-50 calls, and there were only 2 that might have effected anything and yes they went against seattle, deal with it and move on, seattle couldnt......i didnt see a game changing blatant call that warrants the crying and bitching and moaning that i've heard for 3 days now.

 

[DIRTY Diapers]

Excuse wheel goes around and round around and round all day long.