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JT Sneaks

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I know there has been some discussion about the movement of the line in the total in the Phils / Expo game, however there has been similar movemnet in the Brewer / Reds game.

Current Lines:
Mon / Phi under 9 -150

Reds / Brewers Under -145

Is there anyone that has found going against or for line movemet to be a successful formula this year? If o tonight you would have two plays...

JT :shade: Sneaks
 
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JT, myself and a few others follow total movement at 2-3 very sharp books right up until game time to see which lines suddenly fall and which lines suddenly rise after going in opposite directions all day. I would not touch that philly total, but that Cincy total is something to keep an eye on;)
 

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I use line movement to help in some of the other sports, but in baseball I gotta pretty good feel where the money is gonna flow in and whether it's gonna be public money, sharp money, or both.

Really pay no attention to it as far as being a factor in my decision.
 

JT Sneaks

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some of the steepest totals

some of the steepest totals

I have seen in awhile so thought I would try a parlay:

Over 8 Chi/Atl +120

Over 9 mon / phi +125

over 9 mil/cin +140

over 8 sf/arizona +135

over 9.5 bos / det +125

over 8 kc / oak +110

10 to win 1,309.13

JT :cool: Sneaks
 

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JT,
I have been going against line movements most of the season (see my posts).

I hypothesize that when the book sets the total number, it does so to get even money on each side. Therefore, theoretically, there should be a 50/50 chance of the total going over/under.

As a result of that hypothesis, I reach two theories:

1. Whenever I can get plus money on a total, I have value. I don't need a 50% winning percentage to make money. So far this season (including last night) I am at a 51% win percentage and am up $615 on $100 flat wagers, or a 6.7% return on investment. This includes a disastrous inter-league experience (which actually goes to disprove this hypothesis....but I dismiss those results as rationalizing that the books can't handicap those games as well). My 6.7% ROI 'aint great, but I'm not looking for great (ahh, if only the S&P were to gain 6.7% this year....).

2. Secondly, when there is a huge disparity in the total, say MIL/CIN U9 -150 (as we saw last night), I theorize that the book is taking a position on the game. If there is so much money on the under, why not move the line to 8.5 to get some over money? I don't buy the "scared of middling" scenario for baseball totals. This isn't football where numbers play a key role (3, 4, 7, etc). A nine is just a number. So, if the books aren't moving the total, they're in effect taking a position. I theorize that the books aren't in the business to loose money. Therefore, I'll play on the book's side.

Overtime, will this work? Don't know. What I'm doing is letting the book handicap the game for me. Are they smarter than me. Yep.

So, that's the hypothesis. You can see my posts for tracking purposes.
 
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