VD's preview: Atlanta Falcons

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Last Year:

The Christal Chandelier era is over. The Black Birds let Michael Vick out of his cage and allowed him to spread his wings. It was no secret that this guy was going to be a talent, but nobody new how soon he would spread his wings. With Vick 'running' the show in Atlanta, they caught numerous opponents off guard, but also created a new type of offense that many teams weren't prepared to defend. With the Vick the Quick, and with some week 17 magic/ugliness, the Falcons backed their way in the playoffs. There they shocked the world, taking out Green Bay in round one, before being kicked out by the Eagles.

What we learned from Last Year:

Atlanta has a solid running attack between Vick, Dunn, and developing RB TJ Duckett. These three guys offer three different types of running. One guy runs on a passing play, one guy is a quick crafty runner out of the backfield and the third is a big, bruising running back. We also saw Atlanta defense emerge as a legitimate stopper. They were able to get pressure, blitzed quite well, and had good play from their linebackers. They had two shutdown corners with Ambrose and Buchannon which really allowed them to work their blitzes. Last but not least, Michael Vick went from backup QB to an NFL superstar. He is a very fast QB, not only once he's across the line of scrimmage, but behind it he can buy time like no other QB in the NFL. He also has an amazing arm and is very accurate as well. Unless you live in a igloo, or Newfoundland, then you probably saw some highlights.

What has changed?:

Well for starters, a team that did not have any big names in their reveiving corps, the Falcons went out and acquired speedy route runner Peerless Price. I'll be the first to tell you this guy is overrated, here's why.
(a) Last year was a contract year.
(b) Last year he played with a very accurate pocket-passing QB.
(c) He never really had a good year until last year.

Drew Bledsoe is a stay at home QB who expects his receivers to run the routes well, and he will deliver the ball. This offense is different. Price will be expected to find open space for himself after Vick starts scrambling around. This is a new environment that Price will not be accustomed to for the first part of the season. The point is that Price finally, after years, thrived in a certain offense in Buffalo. Don't expect him to thrive in a completely different situation. Here's some guys who many people thought were great acquisitions by teams last year, but seemed to disappear once the games stared:

- Chiefs Johnnie Morton
- Indy Qadry Ismail
- Green Bay Terry Glenn
- Cincy Michael Westbrook

Michael Vick does not need big name receivers, he just needs some monkey who will hold on to the ball when he is hit in the chest with it, similar to Donovan McNabb (although McNabb's accuracy is not the same).

Another thing that has changed is that Vick is no longer a secret. Opposing teams have a years worth of tapes of him, and will key in solely on him. Easier said than done, but expect him to always be on the run, and always to take hard/late hits. Mike better hope this offensive line is as solid as it was last year or he'll be coming off on a stretcher.

One last change that might go unnoticed is Ashley Ambrose is not with the team anymore. He is a very solid CB, and he is one of the reason why their defense played so well. Just like the Eagles, the Falcons last year had two solid cover corners which can match up man to man, and therefore allows the defensive coordinator to send a few more blitzes. Right now Tyrone Williams is scheduled as the other starting corner which is a significant drop off. This defense will allow a few more big plays than it did last year and this move could have a big impact on this defense.

O/U 9.5:

Can this team win 10 games? If they played Minnesota 10 times then sure, but teams this year will really focus in on containing Vick this year. Tampa has figured out and shutdown Vick. I expect this to continue. Carolina is also improving, and are very good defensively. I think they are worthy of a split. The Saints can put points on the board, and I think will win one of two shootouts between the cousins. That leaves the Falcons needing 7 out of the rest of their out of conference games, which are: @Cowboys, Redskins, Vikings, @Rams, Eagles, @Giants, Titans, @Texans, @Colts, Jaguars. They are hard pressed to do so, especially with a couple of tough road games. I would lean to the under.

Fantasy Sleeper:

Take a look at Alge Crumpler. He seems to get alot of touches on this offense, usually because he can sniff out the soft spots in the zone coverage that this offense usually faces. Most people will be drafting big name tight ends, and you might be able to sneak him in a later round.
 

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I'd love to bud.....

problem is that its just a name. I'm up here in Canada.

Drop me an e-mail if you like, just check my profile ;)
 

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One thing that has changed for the Falcons is the turf (moved to FieldTurf) that we will play on this year. Although in the long run, this will be a VERY positive move for the Falcons (Vick's career will last longer), I think it slows Vick down enough where the pocket will collapse on him more. On Astroturf, Vick was able to slice through charging defenders. I believe the softer surface may hinder his ability to do this. It is guaranteed that analysts will profoundly say that defenses have figured Vick out!

Although I am optimistic about the roster changes that the Falcons have made I, too, do not think we will win 10 games. I think this is a pretty solid line, though, because 10 wins is possible.

Terrence Edwards, undrafted rookie out of Georgia, has been very impressive during workouts so far and should add to the depth at WR in short and long routes. Should add confusion to opposing defenses when added to line-up. Terrence Edwards

VD--Great write-up!
 

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Thanks dawgball.

Good point.

I thought about writing about the Astroturf to Fieldturf change, but I'm not sure what impact it will have. I mean Vick will be slower, but so will his opponents. Maybe thats a disadvantage for him, but I guess we'll see.
 

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I think it will be a disadvantage for the Falcons due to the fact that the defensive linemen have a good idea as to where they are lumbering to. I believe Vick's big advantage is that amazing first step. I compare it to putting Iverson on grass. Yes, the defender is on grass as well, but they can keep up from the beginning better.

This comparison is a little far-fetched, and I don't know if my assumptions are correct. Like you said, there's only one way to find out. That's another reason why I wouldn't wager on the O/U for the Falcons this year.

Another note is that defenses are not the only ones studying in the off-season. I feel that Vick is not in any way a pre-Madonna. The guy is here to play football and to try and be the best QB in history. Only time will tell the end of that story, but I am sure Vick has been working on concealing his motions on the field to attempt to confuse defenses.

Falcons also have a new QB coach who is acclaimed at basics and drilling Vick until he gets it right. Should see some improvements in accuracy this year on short routes as well as timing patterns.

Can anyone tell I'm really excited about this season in Atlanta?:Yep:

Looking forward to your other team write-ups!
 

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Ahhh........didn't realize you were from the ATL.

I think Vick will continue to improve. I can't wait for him to be the first QB to have a 300 yard passing game and a 100 yard rushing game.

I think he would be the first....
 

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No doubt.

I would like to see odds on whether or not it's THIS year.

I don't want to sound too biased here, either. When it comes time to go to the window, I'll be the first to play against them which I think will be a good wager in the beginning of this season because of all of the hype.
 

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Vegas Dave said:
the Falcons went out and acquired speedy route runner Peerless Price. I'll be the first to tell you this guy is overrated, here's why.
(a) Last year was a contract year.
(b) Last year he played with a very accurate pocket-passing QB.
(c) He never really had a good year until last year.

This offense is different. Price will be expected to find open space for himself after Vick starts scrambling around. This is a new environment that Price will not be accustomed to for the first part of the season. The point is that Price finally, after years, thrived in a certain offense in Buffalo. Don't expect him to thrive in a completely different situation.
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Vegas Dave

What a crock of crabchit.

You dont know what your talking about. Your trying to give a assessment of these teams and your losing focus.

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Wow, class act buddy.

You disagree with something, so instead of saying why I'm wrong or why your opinion is different, you just choose to insult me with no explanation.

Don't be a piece of garbage, I know you're better than that.
 

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Vegas Dave said:
Wow, class act buddy.

You disagree with something, so instead of saying why I'm wrong or why your opinion is different, you just choose to insult me with no explanation.

Don't be a piece of garbage, I know you're better than that.
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well i wasnt going to waste my time but now that you put it like that I will respond. It may be useless though.


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I think Vick will continue to improve. I can't wait for him to be the first QB to have a 300 yard passing game and a 100 yard rushing game.

I think he would be the first....
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Vick: Not really anything. Well, unless they start something about my mom or something.

What if someone called you "Ookie"?

Vick: Man, if they called me Ookie it would really be on. I would really be upset, because nobody else can call me by my nickname but my mom. Unless I give you permission because you really know me, but none of the guys know me real good so they can't do it. But yeah, that would really get me going.

GO OOKIE GO

HAHHAHAHAHHAHA.

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the Falcons went out and acquired speedy route runner Peerless Price. I'll be the first to tell you this guy is overrated, here's why.
(a) Last year was a contract year.
(b) Last year he played with a very accurate pocket-passing QB.
(c) He never really had a good year until last year.

This offense is different. Price will be expected to find open space for himself after Vick starts scrambling around. This is a new environment that Price will not be accustomed to for the first part of the season. The point is that Price finally, after years, thrived in a certain offense in Buffalo. Don't expect him to thrive in a completely different situation.
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A) Peerless was in his contract year. - Yeh so what. He played well and has continued to show star qualities.

B) Vick is Vick . Bledsoe sucks no more needs saying.

C) He is only in his fourth year . It takes time for great receivers to develop into the finished product.

Price will have more opportunites with Vick scrambling around not less. Price is in a new offense now. He will fit in just fine. Cant believe you make determinations about Prices worth with that kind of logic.
The addition of Edwards from Georgia will also help. Finnerman will have a break out year especially if Vick goes down and Johnson comes in.

The Falcons are my expertise this year and I will be posting a weekly play in bubba's forum. I will know when this team farts this year. So please don't tell me I know nothing because I do.

Hope that helped

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"NFL: Talented playmaker, whose combination of speed and strength has made him one of top receivers in the NFL in just his fifth year?Has posted increases in both receptions and yards receiving in each of the last three years, including the 2002 campaign when he enjoyed a breakout season with 94 receptions for 1,252 yards and nine touchdowns ? all career highs?Has proven durability evidenced by the fact he has started every game the last three seasons and has also displayed remarkable consistency, with at least one pass reception in his last 55 games.

2002: Turned in his best season as a pro, which culminated with being selected as an alternate to the 2003 Pro Bowl?Finished fifth in the AFC and seventh in the NFL with 94 catches?Was sixth in the AFC and 11th in the NFL with 1,252 receiving yards?Started the 2002 season with seven catches for 80 yards vs. the N.Y. Jets (9/8)?Caught 13 passes for 185 yards and two touchdowns, all of which were career highs in overtime victory at Minnesota (9/15). His 48-yard touchdown reception in overtime was the first overtime score of his career?Finished second on the team with five catches for 87 yards at Denver (9/22)?Turned in his second 100-yard game of the season vs. Oakland (10/6), catching seven passes for 126 yards vs. Oakland (10/6). Also added his fourth touchdown reception of the year vs. Oakland?Recorded his second consecutive 100-yard receiving effort when he led the team with eight receptions for 121 yards at Houston (10/13). Included in eight receptions was a game-winning 26-yard touchdown reception in the fourth quarter?Pulled in four receptions for 101yards (ninth career 100-yd game and fourth of the season), including a 59-yard touchdown reception in the second quarter vs. Detroit (10/27)?Led the team with nine receptions for 98 yards and one touchdown vs. New England (11/3)?Caught two passes for 93 yards and two touchdowns and went over the 1,000-yard mark for the season vs. Miami (12/1)?Led the team with nine catches for 105 yards, topping the 100-yard mark for the fifth time in loss at New England (12/8)?Ended the season with five catches for 57 yards in win vs. Cincinnati (12/29).

2001: Started all 16 games at wide receiver for the second consecutive season?Led the Bills with seven touchdown catches and finished second on the team with 895 receiving yards on 55 receptions?Joined fellow teammates Larry Centers and Eric Moulds as the only Bills to catch at least one pass in all 16 games?Posted his second consecutive 50-catch season and extended his streak of games with a reception to 39, the fifth-longest such streak in team history. Also served as the team?s primary punt returner with 19 returns for 110 yards?Rushed six times for 97 yards, including a career-long 31-yard dash vs. New Orleans (9/9)?Began the season with a 32-yard reception and a 31-yard run vs. New Orleans (9/9)?Had two receptions for 56 yards and scored the seventh touchdown of his career vs. Indianapolis (9/23)?Had a then-career-long 70-yard touchdown reception vs. N.Y. Jets (10/7)?Had his fourth career 100-yard game with eight receptions for 151 yards at San Diego (10/28). The receiving effort also included a 61-yard touchdown reception, the third longest of his career?Added three receptions for 59 yards, including a 17-yard touchdown reception at New England (11/11)?Recorded his fifth 100-yard receiving game on a career-best 10 receptions for 138 yards vs. Seattle (11/18). Also had a 16-yard touchdown reception vs. the Seahawks?Tallied four receptions for 67 yards vs. New England (12/16)?Had third-quarter 22-yard touchdown reception in 14-9 win at N.Y. Jets (12/30)?Closed out the season with three receptions for 51 yards at Miami (1/6)."
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Enough said.

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"Transaction: Terrance Edwards was signed by the Falcons on April 29, 2003.

College: A big-play specialist who was one of the key factors in Georgia?s successful passing attack the last four years?Started 40 of 46 games during his career, ranking second in Southeastern Conference history (behind Kentucky's Craig Yeast -- 208 catches, 1995-98) with a career school-record 204 receptions?Set a conference and school record with 3,093 career yards receiving, topping the previous SEC mark of 3,001 yards by Josh Reed of Louisiana State (1999-2001)?His 30 touchdown catches are topped only by Florida's Chris Doering (31, 1992-95) in SEC annals?Set another school career record with 10 games of 100 yards receiving?All-America honorable mention and All-SEC first-team selection by The NFL Draft Report in 2002?Started the first 10 games and the Sugar Bowl at split end?Led the team with 59 receptions for 1,004 yards (17.0 avg.) and 11 touchdowns, topping the previous school season records of 970 yards by Brice Hunter (1993) and his own nine scoring grabs in 1999 (Hunter, 1993, and Hason Graham, 1994, also had 9 touchdown catches)?Played in every game in 2001, starting the first five and final three contests at flanker?Caught 39 passes for 613 yards (15.7 avg.) and six touchdowns?Returned a pair of punts for 43 yards (21.5 avg.)?Was a consensus All-SEC second-team pick in 2000?Started every game at flanker, making 53 catches for 704 yards (13.3 avg.) and four touchdowns?Was a Football News freshman All-America first-team pick in 1999, adding second-team honors from The Sporting News?Knoxville News Sentinel SEC All-Freshman team choice?Started 10 games at flanker, pacing the Bulldogs with 53 receptions for 772 yards (14.6 avg.) and nine touchdowns (second-best season total in school history)"
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Vegas Dave

So what do you have to say now ?

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Well I'll respond to the one post you wrote, which would be your second.

A) He was in a contract year.

If you don't know what that means, you must be living in a cave. Most players in all of the major sports play well in the year that their contract is finshing. The reason for this is if they don't perform well this season, then they will take a big pay cut in the next season. If they play really well right now, which most players do, then they can sign a big contract and its smooth sailing from there. Sure there are exceptions to the rule, but here's a few examples:

Johnnie Morton, good year in Detroit, looked like a budding star in his contract year. Signed a nice deal with KC and disappeared.

Bill Schroeder, big year in 2001 for GB, did very little in 2002.

Remember Albert Connell? Had a great season in Washington in his contract year, signed a big deal with New Orleans, and where is he now?

How about Vince Carter in the NBA? Where is he after signing a new deal? Actually what have the Raptors as a team done after they all got new contracts? Not a whole hell of alot, but they did play pretty well in contract years.

In the NHL, look at Jose Theodore and Jarome Iginla. The top two players in the league during their contract years, but after signing big deals, they were unable to re-attain the same stats.

It doesn't happen to every player, but more often than not a player will play harder in his contract year to secure his future. After the money is there, the numbers drop in the first year.
 
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B) You cannot compare Michael Vick to Drew Bledsoe. You're statement that Drew Bledsoe sucks is very primitive, and it means nothing. He is one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the NFL. They are two completely different QB's.

A simple answer to a simple statement.
 

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My original point was the Peerless Price is overrated, and he is. By you arguing with that point, you are trying to prove that he is a legitimate #1 receiver in the NFL. I am saying that he might be in the future, but as of right now he clearly is not. Well lets have a look:

Has Peerlees ever been a number one target on a team?

No. He has always played with Eric Moulds, a perrenial pro-bowler beside him. What does that mean? Here, I'll spell it for ya. It means that Peerless is rarely double teamed, it means he's always playing against the opposing teams second best DB, and that means that he will be open more often.

Peerless has skills, and he has speed, but this year will be alot different for him. He has never had the attention he will receive this year. He will need time to adjust to this.

So Peerless had numerous opportunities to get open last year with Moulds by his side, and not only that, he played in a pass happy offense, with a terrible defense. But Dave, what does that have to do with the subject? Here, I'll spell it out for you again. Drew Bledsoe averaged 10 more passes a game last year than Michael Vick. That shows how much more Buffalo passes the ball than Atlanta. Buffalo's defense was awful last year, which means that they were constantly playing from behind. They were forced to pass the ball to keep the team in the game. That means that Price had more opportunites to touch the ball. Atlanta's defence is far more advanced, and not only that, they play a ball control style of football. Price won't get nearly as many looks.

Hold on, there's more. Peerless goes from an offense where he finally tasted success with a QB who simply dropped back, and aired out the ball. Now he comes to an offense where the QB loves to scramble, and loves to throw on the run. Hmmm......who does that remind you of? Hey, wait a sec, Rob Johnson AND Doug Flutie both played the same style. But it took Peerless until his 4th year to achieve success. Maybe its because the fourth year of his career was the FIRST year he was playing with a QB who finally just sat in the pocket instead of constantly being on the run. I know what you'll say, Vick is Vick, Johson/Flutie sucks, but you can't ignore the offensive similarities (not talentwise).

You simply cannot argue with my second last paragraph, and if you still think that Peerless Price will duplicate his numbers from last year in a completely different scenario than you are ludacris.

Thank you and good night.
 
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I don't have any problems discussing your opinions about certain issues, but if you want to just come on here to insult me and build your ego or whatever, then don't bother.

You seem to be the only one that has 'taken exception' to my previews.
 

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Vegas Dave and Scott-Atlanta

You both have put in good information and discussion. I would like to see both of you continue.

These forums are for people sharing info to try to win money from the sportsbooks.

Opinions are good, but not attacks on others. Lets work together.
 

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4bubba said:
These forums are for people sharing info to try to win money from the sportsbooks.

Opinions are good, but not attacks on others. Lets work together.
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this guy is Vegas Dave and he lives in Canada. wtf.

Vegas Dave acts like he knows everything about the Falcons. He cant predict the future. I am thinking about what he wrote to respond. He is so off base. I wasnt trying to insult you Vegas but if you think you can just post and not get challenged when you are wrong then think again.

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