Was Hillary's Iraq ploy treason?

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Officials say Clinton's 'badwill tour' plays into hands of enemies

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Posted: December 11, 2003
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By Kenneth R. Timmerman
? 2003 Insight/News World Communications Inc.

Former Clinton White House adviser Dick Morris called it Hillary's "badwill tour of Iraq." Certainly Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's grousing to the troops brought no wild cheers, unlike the scene when President George W. Bush showed up unannounced on Thanksgiving Day to serve turkey to servicemen and women on combat duty in Baghdad. According to some reports, she is so unpopular among the armed forces that her Pentagon minders had to assign soldiers to greet her.

The former first lady, touted by many Democrats as their best hope at wresting the presidency from Bush in 2004, insisted that she had come to Baghdad to tell the troops that "Americans are proud" of them. But, she added, back home "many question the administration's policies." Then she launched into a personal attack on the president for having been "obsessed with Saddam Hussein for more than a decade." It was not exactly what you'd call a morale booster, and the troops hated it.

Al-Jazeera, the Qatar government's own jihad TV network, broadcast her remarks immediately in Arabic translation. To our enemies, the propaganda value of having a member of the U.S. Senate, who sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee, come to a war zone to criticize her president and express doubts about the leadership of the U.S. military was crystal clear. Al-Jazeera also gave prominent play to comments by her companion, fellow Democratic Sen. Jack Reed of Rhode Island, who opined that the administration's justification for the war was "tenuous at best" and that Americans "could look back and see the decision to attack Iraq was one that ended up being very, very costly."

Former police captain Anwar Ibrahim is Iraq's deputy minister of interior. Asked about earlier blasts against the president and the U.S.-led reconstruction effort by Democratic presidential contenders back in the United States, he told former New York City police commissioner Bernard Kerik that the Democrats would do better to keep their mouths shut.

"Our enemies all have satellite television and they are watching," Kerik recalls Ibrahim saying. "When they hear this kind of thing, they think they are winning." Such delusions cost American lives.

Kerik, who recruited Ibrahim to head up the effort to build a new Iraqi police department to fight the Ba'ath Party remnants on the ground, sharply criticized Congress for politicizing the postwar efforts. Every day Congress debated whether to consider the $20 billion for Iraqi reconstruction a loan or a grant spawned new U.S. casualties on the ground, he said, by delaying the training of new Iraqi recruits.

"We lost at least eight weeks of training ? that's 3,000 recruits," he told an audience at the American Enterprise Institute.

Kerik recalled taking visiting NBC News anchor Tom Brokaw on a nighttime tour of downtown Baghdad at a time when U.S. TV networks were portraying the Iraqi capital as a nightmare of looting and lawlessness and where U.S. troops were sitting targets. Instead, Kerik says, they drove down street after street lined with refrigerators, air conditioners and other merchandise for sale with no guards and no looters anywhere in sight.

"In the U.S., what we don't hear is the successes of our people in fighting the Ba'athists," he said. "It is essential for the American people to know that we are not losing the battle; we are winning it."

So were Sens. Clinton and Reed aiding and abetting the enemy in a replay of actress Jane Fonda's infamous "Hanoi Jane" stunt at the peak of the Vietnam War?

Not so fast, says lawyer and author Henry Mark Holzer, who has written a book on Fonda's exploits during the Vietnam War and published a recent monograph, "Why Not Call It Treason?"

What the former first lady did in Baghdad "may be comfort to the enemy, but it's not treason," he tells Insight. There have been no treason prosecutions in the United States since the World War II era trials of broadcasters Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally.

"Nobody has been charged with treason since," Holzer points out, "not even Aldrich Ames or John Walker Lindh," the U.S. Taliban recruit whom Holzer called "a poster boy for treason."

Clinton's trip to Baghdad "was a bit like a U.S. senator going to Omaha Beach just after D-Day and attacking President [Franklin D.] Roosevelt and the war effort," Holzer says. "It was typically Clintonesque. It was overtly political, it was disloyal and it was pathetic. But it was not treason." For stunts such as hers, the only possible remedy is at the ballot box. "It's the price we pay for the First Amendment," he says.
 

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Treason, no. Bad taste and not presidential in the least, absolutely!!! None of the wannabes are very Presidential if you ask me. Hillary only seems to do things for her own benefit, never anyone elses. It is not surprising she had no desire to help build the morale of the troops there.
 

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Not any worse then John Mc Cain. He's pissed every day about how we did this wrong. Were doing this wrong. We should have more help in Iraq. We have no exit paln. Hey there both close to how America feals right now. The Orginal Polls of. We have to do something in Iraq There ready to use ther WMD on us and the world. They may even have a nuke have Dropped from a Wopping 74% for to 54%. And Im guessing if we dont get it in order soon. And American lives continue to be lost. It will be 50/50. Or lower.
 

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If its any consulation Hiliary,Reed and Slick views are big hits on
Aljazeera network and the liberal scene here--birds of a feather?

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A72E913B-8E34-4F5E-8380-1215D17D3C36.htm


http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/26B0068A-B31F-4A69-8424-8700A25C8193.htm

Go hand in hand with Aljazeera propaganda---
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/8245212D-39CC-4E6E-80FF-2E1F29F72BC5.htm

add in case you wonder why French and Russia are squalling about forgiving debts--read through this andyou'll see their contributions to the war effort

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/1B7B0204-AA74-4422-8923-B8947A6E8727.htm
 
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When we dam near have 50% of Americans wondering why were in a war in Iraq. I guess that makes 50% of Americans bad.
If we were only told the real truth to start with. Well who knows what may have happen.
 

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Oh yes, we all must be traders who are against this war! Not Rummy though, all though he was the guy who told Reagan we could work with Saddam. No way Cheney could be a trader, with his company doing business with Saddam against US sanctions making Saddam even stronger then he was. Yes, we know he had chemical weapons because we sold them to him! You right wingers amaze me sometimes. I don't even know what Hillary said just don't lump everyone against the war as a traitor when the most treasonous are those who are running it.
 

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I do not think there is a thing wrong against having opinion against the war,where I draw the line is on the protestors and those that go to other countries to promote their agenda against a war this country has committed to.
Answer just one question to yourself. Hiliary said she went to Iraq to boost troop morale. How on earth did what she say boost any morale except the terrorist. --and if your a pro coalition Iraqi your shitting in your pants thinking the US might cut and run aka Bush Senior. How many iraq's that are scared to getoff the fence will stay on it just a little longer now.So who really did her trip leave with smiling faces except the opposition and liberals?
Now I am not naive enough to think that Bushes visit wasn't a huge political move along with his visit.--but look at who had the smiling faces.It damn sure wasn't the terrorist----and maybe I should bring up list of orgs that funded a lot of these protests here again in case anyone has forrgotten some of these left wing/terrorist org links?????
 

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DTB the thing I believe you and I disagree on is simple. Your sold on we need to be in Iraq. I know you remember we were sold on we just had to be in Nam. We would not have to many protesters or problems of that kind if we were not in Iraq in the first place. As we found out our reasons got weeker and weeker. This is just what some idots live off of. I wish we had found a dam nuke there or at least some real serious WMD. But we didn't. No one ever said we need to be the worlds cops. If it was so. Then we should have started with the biggest problem to our well being N Korea. Or at least finished the job in Afgan.
 

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StevieD- no one is calling you a traitor or lumping together everyone against the war. You have just as valid an opinion as everyone else plus make very good points as well.
djv- If McCain was El Presidente you'd probably be posting about Bush. I feel bad about the body bags too, but this is where we are at so we'd best deal with the situation rather than complain. Not saying your posts are not welcome, but constructive criticism would make more sense- IMHO. I appreciate the info posted here and just just adding my 2 cents. Now to get the f*ck outta Dodge before Haskell shows up :burnout
 

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not for nothing turf, but do you ever post anything about a sport at jacks? Or is this just someplace to spread your political agenda??:shrug:
 
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