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Wednesday Update

Lohse -115 Over Garland (1 Unit)

Sele +125 Over Hudson (1 Unit)

Rogers +180 Over Garcia (1 Unit)

Prior -1.5 +140 Over Myers (1 Unit)

Tejera +120 Over Moss (1 Unit)

Tejera/Moss Over 8.5 Even (2 Units)
 

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thanks wigs.

good luck to you also.
 

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ie--
if you dont mind answering i was curious what role hirschbeck played into your capping on the seattle/texas game-- i just noticed he was the home plate ump.. i believe this is hirschbeck's first game behind the plate since he was sued by mlb a few days ago and censured for some errors on balls and strikes- thanks
 

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new york times
july 22, 2002
Umpires Under Scrutiny

If Bud Selig is the most disillusioned baseball person of the week, John Hirschbeck might be the second-most disillusioned.

When Hirschbeck, a veteran umpire, led the fight against Richie Phillips's union leadership three years ago, he was embraced by major league officials. Delighted to be rid of Phillips, they welcomed Hirschbeck, the president of the new union, to the negotiating table. With much greater ease than when Phillips was there, they worked out a new labor agreement.

Now Hirschbeck appears to have become a target of these same officials, who view him as trying to undermine their efforts to get the umpires to call the strike zone as they want it called. Hirschbeck was omitted him from the World Series umpiring crew last October.

Then, earlier this season, he received a warning letter from Ralph Nelson, vice president for umpiring, referring to a game Hirschbeck worked, criticizing his strike zone and the way he was conducting his umpiring crew. The letter has become a source of controversy and a lawsuit between the union and the commissioner's office.

"John is the one who said these are good people," one veteran umpire said last week.

If Hirschbeck were to offer his view of them now, he would most likely have a different opinion. But Hirschbeck is not speaking publicly. For now, at least, he is letting the union's lawyers talk about the computerized system baseball is using to monitor the umpires' pitch calls.

The lawyers filed a grievance Friday in an attempt to force officials to answer questions and supply information about the QuesTec Umpire Information System. Last month, one of the lawyers, Larry Gibson, tried to go directly to QuesTec but was rebuffed by the company and cautioned by baseball not to do it again.

In a letter to Sandy Alderson, head of baseball operations in the commissioner's office, Gibson wrote, "By the reaction of the commissioner's office, one would think that I had asked to see the commissioner's personal bank records."
 

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wigs, to be honest with you , i studied umpires for 3.0 years prior to this year and do not even look at them as a factor in my handicapping anymore.

thanks for the info though....its good stuff for people that do incorporate umpires into their handicapping.....and it is an interesting angle to be aware of.
 

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thanks for the reply, well i see ray and fletch think this one will be played out quite differently, so perhaps i should just stay out altogether--- dont know if i'll get to see all of this one but anyone that does, i'd be curious to know how tight hirschbeck was calling it tonight...good luck IE!!:)
 

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don't know really know about others but for me if rogers is on tonight, texas stands at least a 10% advantage over the inferred line of +180 being 35.7% chance of winning this game...we shall see.
 
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