Week 5 NFC North

[bleedingpurple]

Man the season is just flying by.

Detroit at Green Bay - 7

Did I miss something? Am I that much anti Green Bay? Minus 7 against the Motor City Kitties? Last time Pack were in this spot was against the Skins -7 and I was dead wrong but I am coming back with the under valued Lions in this one. 7 is giving Green Bay waaaay too much credit.

Packers are a good team no doubt, RB Lacy should be back, Trumon Wiliams will be 1005,and awaiting the status of CB Casey Hayward and TE Jermichael Finley. Packers offense is still a Juggernaught at times but I still contest that defense is a bit to be desired. Green Bay is going to have problems with the Lions front 4, I mean real problems, this is the best D line they will have faced all year and look for the tackles to get shredded with middle penetration by Suh. I fully expect Rodgers to take quick drops and get rid of the ball quickly. Need an effective running game to stay out of 3rd and long.

Packer' main problem on defense is the linebacking crew, Detroit has the tight ends and running backs coming out of the back field to stress that defense.

Last Year the Lions were a 1st and goal at putting the Packers away in Detroit, Schwartz screwed that up. Last year in Lambeau on a snowy night, Detroit was dominating the first half only to see Stafford cock his arm back and drop the ball with nobody close to hitting him. Pack picked it up and went for the TD changing the game.

Horseshoe won't be up there ass this week.

Lions 34 Packers 31

 

[pug]

You are too anti Green Bay. I am a Lions fan and I will tell you that they will not win this game. The Lions are improved for sure but play much better at home then away. Detroit lost at AZ and barely beat a terrible Wash team in Wash. Det's defense behind the front four flat out stinks. GB will have a full two weeks to prepare for this one. Teams with more rest than their opponent are 9-2 ATS this season. GB must win it or their chance for a division title takes a major hit. If GB loses they will be 2 1/2 games behind Det and Det will have the tiebreaker advantage. It's not going to happen. Rodgers will pick apart the Lions secondary that is ranked 21st against the pass. The time to bet on Det against GB will be on Thanksgiving Day and not now. Do you really think Det runs away with the division title? No chance. I expect a few turnovers from Det and key penalties from Det due to their complete lack of discipline. GB 37 Det 27

 

[Hashish]

You are too anti Green Bay. I am a Lions fan and I will tell you that they will not win this game. The Lions are improved for sure but play much better at home then away. Detroit lost at AZ and barely beat a terrible Wash team in Wash. Det's defense behind the front four flat out stinks. GB will have a full two weeks to prepare for this one. Teams with more rest than their opponent are 9-2 ATS this season. GB must win it or their chance for a division title takes a major hit. If GB loses they will be 2 1/2 games behind Det and Det will have the tiebreaker advantage. It's not going to happen. Rodgers will pick apart the Lions secondary that is ranked 21st against the pass. The time to bet on Det against GB will be on Thanksgiving Day and not now. Do you really think Det runs away with the division title? No chance. I expect a few turnovers from Det and key penalties from Det due to their complete lack of discipline. GB 37 Det 27

Agreed, Detroit will play like Detroit in this one. Expect boneheaded penalties as well as a generous helping of turnovers.

 

[bleedingpurple]

You are too anti Green Bay. I am a Lions fan and I will tell you that they will not win this game. The Lions are improved for sure but play much better at home then away. Detroit lost at AZ and barely beat a terrible Wash team in Wash. Det's defense behind the front four flat out stinks. GB will have a full two weeks to prepare for this one. Teams with more rest than their opponent are 9-2 ATS this season. GB must win it or their chance for a division title takes a major hit. If GB loses they will be 2 1/2 games behind Det and Det will have the tiebreaker advantage. It's not going to happen. Rodgers will pick apart the Lions secondary that is ranked 21st against the pass. The time to bet on Det against GB will be on Thanksgiving Day and not now. Do you really think Det runs away with the division title? No chance. I expect a few turnovers from Det and key penalties from Det due to their complete lack of discipline. GB 37 Det 27

Hayward is out at cb for Green Bay, Clay Matthews is limited in practice with his hammy, and Finley returned to practice today.

Pug I will give you that there will be passes to gain on that secondary but the front will be in his face, Green Bay has had two weeks to prepare, Detroit hasn't won in Green Bay since 91. Let me ask you this, what do you think will happen when Detroit has the ball especially if Clay Maker is out? This hamstring problem will probably linger on for awhile, he missed significant time last year and looked lost when he came back.

Green Bay's defense sucks out loud, they are Brutal, they played well against Wash cause they were able to get a good lead and RG 3 was lost still. They were unable to stop San Frans passing attack or Cincy for that matter, both teams could pass it when they wanted and for that matter wide receivers were left wide open. Detroit has a healthy Stafford and two tight ends that are going to give Green Bay fits, plus the addition of Reggie Bush from last year is going to kill the Pack. Can Green Bay outscore em, yes, but this team just does not have the talent they used to have. They simply do not, look at their drafts from 2010 - 2012, the talent is not there.

The biggest mistake bettors make, me included is say, "that is not going to happen." You know what else wasn't going to happen, Atlanta wouldn't be 1 - 3. Giants wouldn't be 1- 4. Look at New Orleans last year, 0-4. There is a good chance Green Bay wins the game, THEY are at Home, no way they go 1 - 3. Blah blah blah

The 7 points is absolute gift. Detroit has more talent then Green Bay, unfortuneately talent doesn't always win especially in Green Bay.

 

[poolplayer8888]

Hayward is out at cb for Green Bay, Clay Matthews is limited in practice with his hammy, and Finley returned to practice today.

Pug I will give you that there will be passes to gain on that secondary but the front will be in his face, Green Bay has had two weeks to prepare, Detroit hasn't won in Green Bay since 91. Let me ask you this, what do you think will happen when Detroit has the ball especially if Clay Maker is out? This hamstring problem will probably linger on for awhile, he missed significant time last year and looked lost when he came back.

Green Bay's defense sucks out loud, they are Brutal, they played well against Wash cause they were able to get a good lead and RG 3 was lost still. They were unable to stop San Frans passing attack or Cincy for that matter, both teams could pass it when they wanted and for that matter wide receivers were left wide open. Detroit has a healthy Stafford and two tight ends that are going to give Green Bay fits, plus the addition of Reggie Bush from last year is going to kill the Pack. Can Green Bay outscore em, yes, but this team just does not have the talent they used to have. They simply do not, look at their drafts from 2010 - 2012, the talent is not there.

The biggest mistake bettors make, me included is say, "that is not going to happen." You know what else wasn't going to happen, Atlanta wouldn't be 1 - 3. Giants wouldn't be 1- 4. Look at New Orleans last year, 0-4. There is a good chance Green Bay wins the game, THEY are at Home, no way they go 1 - 3. Blah blah blah

The 7 points is absolute gift. Detroit has more talent then Green Bay, unfortuneately talent doesn't always win especially in Green Bay.

You were Waaayyy off taking washington and the 7 at GB..What will u say when you are waaayyy off again taking the lions and 7....I know you HATE GB and there is no doubt what so ever that you think with your hatred way to much with GB...Even a lion fan comes on here and says Lions have no chance....why would u say unfortunately talent doesn't always win especially in GB?? so the SB title they had little talent?? LMAO Nothing personal on here at all but very few people take your picks seriously when its a packer game cus u hate them and we all know that on here. Detroit has lost 21 straight at GB for a reason.....Hell they couldnt even beat GB 2 years ago in a meaningless game for GB with Rodgers sitting out.

 

[pug]

I look at many factors when betting a game and two of the biggest are rest and need. Both heavily favor Green Bay in this one. This is close to a must win for GB and they've had two weeks to prepare.

GB's defense is 8th against the run. I expect GB to shut down Det's running game, get an early lead and force Det to become one dimensional. Stafford will then force some throws and throw a couple of picks. Det will commit some key costly penalties like they always do, especially on the road.

Rodgers can throw one quick short pass after another to neutralize the Det pass rush against a poor secondary and linebacker group. He doesn't need more than a couple seconds to do that. It will go on all day.

A good comparison for this game is comparing Det's away game against Wash with GB's home game against Wash. This will show you a good comparison of Det away and GB at home. In short, GB is much better at home then Det is away.

Don't get me wrong, Det will score, but GB will score more and win the game. I fully expect this to be a high scoring shootout, but Det is not ready to win this type of game yet and especially not in this situation.

 

[bleedingpurple]

You were Waaayyy off taking washington and the 7 at GB..What will u say when you are waaayyy off again taking the lions and 7....I know you HATE GB and there is no doubt what so ever that you think with your hatred way to much with GB...Even a lion fan comes on here and says Lions have no chance....why would u say unfortunately talent doesn't always win especially in GB?? so the SB title they had little talent?? LMAO Nothing personal on here at all but very few people take your picks seriously when its a packer game cus u hate them and we all know that on here. Detroit has lost 21 straight at GB for a reason.....Hell they couldnt even beat GB 2 years ago in a meaningless game for GB with Rodgers sitting out.

The year they won the SuperBowl, I had a thread for each playoff game, picking them to beat.. Philly then I had another thread picking them to beat Atlanta, then another thread to beat Chicago, then another thread to beat Pittsburgh.

Last year I predicted them to beat the Vikes in the wild card game and then I predicted them to lose to San Fran then you guys ripped my ass and the game went basically the way I predicted. Yes I was wrong that I picked Washington to cover, I did pick Green Bay to win the game, I was also wrong when I picked Green Bay to beat Cincy as well.

What I meant by saying talent doesn't always win in Green Bay cause the Packers usually find a way to win there no matter who they are playing.

2 years ago, the teams were a little bit different. The Packer fans on this board are in denial. Like last year you were flabbergasted and ripped me for picking San Fran to destroy them in playoffs, Picked them again this year as well. Every time I pick against Green Bay, I usually do pretty well, hell I even pick against Minnesota, I know that is foreign to a Packer fan, they think the team has no weaknesses. Don't have time but the Lions roster is better than the Pack's, it just is.

 

[bleedingpurple]

I look at many factors when betting a game and two of the biggest are rest and need. Both heavily favor Green Bay in this one. This is close to a must win for GB and they've had two weeks to prepare.

GB's defense is 8th against the run. I expect GB to shut down Det's running game, get an early lead and force Det to become one dimensional. Stafford will then force some throws and throw a couple of picks. Det will commit some key costly penalties like they always do, especially on the road.

Rodgers can throw one quick short pass after another to neutralize the Det pass rush against a poor secondary and linebacker group. He doesn't need more than a couple seconds to do that. It will go on all day.

A good comparison for this game is comparing Det's away game against Wash with GB's home game against Wash. This will show you a good comparison of Det away and GB at home. In short, GB is much better at home then Det is away.

Don't get me wrong, Det will score, but GB will score more and win the game. I fully expect this to be a high scoring shootout, but Det is not ready to win this type of game yet and especially not in this situation.

Fair enough, I'm all over the 7 points. Green Bay is that high against the run because Washington played from behind all game and teams know they need to pass against them, good running teams will have no problem with Green Bay, NONE.

 

[bake2252]

I think you are spot on. I too, am a Lions fan and one huge factor to remember. The lions had the lead against Arizona when Reggie bush got hurt. He did not play against Washington in week 3 when they barely won , yet covered. They had not won in Washington either. Will they win? Who knows. Can they cover 7? Certainly good luck

 

[bleedingpurple]

I think you are spot on. I too, am a Lions fan and one huge factor to remember. The lions had the lead against Arizona when Reggie bush got hurt. He did not play against Washington in week 3 when they barely won , yet covered. They had not won in Washington either. Will they win? Who knows. Can they cover 7? Certainly good luck

Good points, Reggie Bush gives then that extra dimension that will get better and better every week

 

[heleanth]

All this discussion is good fun, but, as we all know, who wins\covers will be determined by:

1. Turnovers.
2. Special teams
3. Penalties.

Good luck, everyone.

 

[bleedingpurple]

All this discussion is good fun, but, as we all know, who wins\covers will be determined by: 1. Turnovers. 2. Special teams 3. Penalties. Good luck, everyone.

Well that's true too, big part of it

 

[Huego]

Fair enough, I'm all over the 7 points. Green Bay is that high against the run because Washington played from behind all game and teams know they need to pass against them, good running teams will have no problem with Green Bay, NONE.

I think you're underrating the packer's run defense. As a niner fan, I was surprised by their performance in week one. They completely shut down the 49er's run game. Packer's defensive line got a push all game against the niners elite offensive line. :shrug:

 

[Scrapman]

DO a serach for last time LIONS won at GB or even covered i can remember one time pathetic Lions covered vs Farve +16 /12 dog LOL

week 17 game packers werent going any where that year either !

 

[bleedingpurple]

DO a serach for last time LIONS won at GB or even covered i can remember one time pathetic Lions covered vs Farve +16 /12 dog LOL week 17 game packers werent going any where that year either !

I don't need to do a search, It was 91. Who gives a shit. The Pirates lost to the Brewers like 19 out of 20 tines at one point. What does that have to do with this year? You know why they haven't lost to the Lions in soooo long? They were BETTER with a shit load more talent. The gap is as close as it has been in a long long time.

 

[gjn23]

All this discussion is good fun, but, as we all know, who wins\covers will be determined by:

1. Turnovers.
2. Special teams
3. Penalties.

Good luck, everyone.

wrong, it's pre-determined by:

1. who bdp picks

in this case.....packers will win 75-0

:0008

please take the saints!

 

[bleedingpurple]

wrong, it's pre-determined by:

1. who bdp picks

in this case.....packers will win 75-0

:0008

please take the saints!

I had the Lions posted on here last week.

I think you only read or pay attention to the losing thread

 

[Skanoochies]

"They haven`t won in green Bay since 1991."
Two weeks ago they hadn`t won in Wash. in the last 16 tries. THEY WON.:mj07:

Everything reverts to the mean eventually.

Good luck, all.:toast:

 

[bleedingpurple]

Well the Packer fans up here in the Northland are EXTREMELY confident. Local radio host on Packer Preview hour, says, (Detroit has a nice start but I view them as an 8- 8 team.)

This guy would pick the Packers to beat the 85 Bears by 10.

I am liking Detroit more and more to cover this 7.

Chicago - Saints

Almost an impossible game to predict. I'll pick the Bears at home by 3 but I will be pulling for the Saints for sure

 

[bleedingpurple]

What a fucking break to get Calvin out. Sob. Can't buy out in fear of middling myself. Fuck me. Lucky green slime