Were staying in Iraq...period...good read

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From "The Peoples Party Times" (USA Today)




I work for the Dept. of State, who have the responsibility for all aspects of the U.S. Diplomatic presence, in both staffing, and building of U.S. Embassy's around the World. I am familiar with what it takes to staff an Embassy. The following personnel are MANDATORY:

1) U.S. Ambassadore and/or Charges D'affairs, or appropriate designee.
2) Marine Security Guard Detatchment (usually approximately 30-100 U.S. Marines)
3) Deputy Chief of Mission (DCM)
4) Regional Security Officer (RSO)
5) Consular Officer (in charge of U.S. Visa requirements)
6) Vice Consul
7) Political Officer (PO)
8) Commerical Officer
9) Administrative Officer

Other U.S. Diplomatic Personnel stationed at an Embassy are contingent on the needs, for instance, if an "Economic Officer" was needed in order to oversee economic issues between the Host Country and the U.S., one will be appointed.

So, you have to ask, is an Embassy of THIS size really needed in a Country the size of Iraq, a Country with which we have not had strong ties with. Routinely, when the U.S. establishes "diplomatic relations" with a Country, let's take Libya for example, it begins with a U.S. Ambassador, a DCM, and it starts out with a very small staff. As the need dictates, additional staff and presence are added as time goes on. In the case of the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, it's immediately starting with the LARGEST Embassy in the World, a clear indication that George W. Bush has far more extensive plans than to just go in to Iraq and restore security before bringing the troops home. There is absolutely NO way that a Country of this size would get an Embassy this large if the U.S. did not have major plans for an increased presence in the Country.

Look at the facts of this. Construction was started two years ago, which means 2005. It would have taken at least a year to draw up the plans for this facility. That takes us to 2004. And, at that time, Bush was saying that our only mission in Iraq was to find, and get rid of, any WMD's. If the United States had no intention of a long term stay in Iraq, they would not have drawn up the plans for such a large complex back in 2003 or 2004. It's clear that the intention of the Bush administration was to go into Iraq and set the groundwork for a long and permanent presence in the oil rich Country. Even if we planned to stay there for many years to come, the need for such a large Embassy is just not there, based on our interests in Iraq (not including oil). But, because of Bush's long term goal of controlling the flow of oil, he saw the need for a large Embassy, staffed accordingly with more then likely a State Dept. employee charged with overseeing U.S. Oil interests in Iraq, a position that will more than likely go to a friend of George W. Bush.

In short, there is absolutely NO way that anyone can justify building an Embassy of this size and magnitude, without first having discussed the long term goals of maintaining a significant Embassy staff within Iraq.

This is a perfect example of how Bush had planned all along to go into Iraq and stay there. And yet, he expects us to believe that he's over there because he's doing the "right thing" and fighting the war on terror? I think not!!

George Bush, may you rot and burn in hell!!
 

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I think we all know that we are not leaving Iraq anytime soon. If a Democrat tells you that they are lieing.

Once they get in office their view will change.

We cannot have al Quada in Iraq take over the goverment, kill hundreds of thousands more, take all the oil and become a crazier Iran trying to buy nukes.

Not after the US has spent 900 billion dollars. No way there Junita. Tell me something we dont all know.

It seems simple enough.

We are there in Iraq for the next 10 years. Maybe not full staff like now, but military presense oh yes.

just live with it . No politician will be able to take responsibility for what will happen if we pull out completely. Not Hillary, not Obama, not John Edwards, and no republicans either :SIB
 
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I'm guessing that you are above draft age and have no one currently in Iraq that will have to suffer for our soldiers "staying there." It's always easier to suggest others make sacrifices when it doesn't affect you directly. Kind of along the lines of cut my taxes while we're at war, but make sure others stay in Iraq for the good of the country - that kind of thing.

I note another jab of sarcasm with the tree huggers comment, and note you avoiding direct discussions in other threads here. Sounds like typical left-wing communication attempts to me...
 

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Interesting thread here. I found the initial post pretty founded in common sense, which certainly will render it stupid by those that agree with the war in Iraq. Scott, with all due respect, I don't plan on just "living with it," when I can try to make my voice heard with those that make decisions and represent me. To continue what I consider a questionable situation (for many reasons) because of what might happen doesn't really make much sense to me. And it makes the initial post in this thread much more believable and the war in general that much more suspect idealogically.
 

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I'm guessing that you are above draft age and have no one currently in Iraq that will have to suffer for our soldiers "staying there." ..

Wrong.

I do more for this country and our military in one single day than you will do in a lifetime.

In conclusion, we need to stay there, Jane Fonda.
 

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Wrong.

I do more for this country and our military in one single day than you will do in a lifetime.

In conclusion, we need to stay there, Jane Fonda.

Please go on. Where have you served?
 

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Wrong.

I do more for this country and our military in one single day than you will do in a lifetime.

In conclusion, we need to stay there, Jane Fonda.

Okay, I'll gladly listen to what you do in one single day. It's comments like this that really say a lot. You know nothing about me, nor my lifetime, but you throw this out. I don't really care, but maybe you can enlighten us with your daily routine. Sounds like it's impressive, and I'll gladly give credit where it's due. Of course, not that you care.

It will be tough for me to come up with a name as witty as Jane Fonda, though...that's for should.

I shouldn't have made the comment about Iraq and your involvement, in retrospect...as I don't really know you. I can apologize quickly, if that proves to be out of line. But, do tell.
 

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Oh, how witty.

I am not going to go into what I do on here. I have a clearance and work for the navy. I believe in our leadership. Unlike, most of you socialists.
 

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I am trying to find something in your posts to respond to Wilson, but all I see is you calling people idiotic, tree hugging, Jane Fonda loving socialists and bragging about how are protecting the free wold. Oh yeah, and you think Bush is doing a fantastic job.

I want to party with that guy.
 

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Wrong.

I do more for this country and our military in one single day than you will do in a lifetime.

In conclusion, we need to stay there, Jane Fonda.
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Wilson

I dont mean to say anything rude in your thread but ,

oh mommy


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I am trying to find something in your posts to respond to Wilson, but all I see is you calling people idiotic, tree hugging, Jane Fonda loving socialists and bragging about how are protecting the free wold. Oh yeah, and you think Bush is doing a fantastic job.

I want to party with that guy.

No time to party. Too much work to be done for YOUR cause.
 

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