K-State has alot of talent on there team. Problem is most are all new and are trying to run a triangle offense which is hard for most NBA players to pickup. The other problem with K-State is they have alot of kids that just have bad attitudes. It's also tough to win @ Home when there is only 1500 folks attending your games. As in for the shockers they impressed me BIG time tonight. This is a team that I think will make some real noise when it comes to MVC play. I think many of the publications didn't give this recruiting class enough credit and neither have I.