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Nosigar This guy is my fav journalist and as sharp as I've seen bar none. He is in 4 person panal on Britt Hume show occasionally and other members sit there and cringe when its his time to speak hoping he does not contradict them--but when he does it is in respectful manner and he never tries to embarrass them.

If he took O'reillys spot their ratings would go off the chart.
 
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I like the guy too. He's far too calm to ever have his own show.
 

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I think he omitted a pretty important one...

The residents of New Orleans.

nah, they are never responsible for anything

they are victims of everything in life

right where our government wants all of us

we should all be victims and everyone one else is at fault
 

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Doctor, your arguments against the victims is heart wrenching. I guess we could say the same about those Irai's who never rose up and overthrew that brutal dictator and fought for their own freedom instead of killing our soldiers. But that is fodder for another thread. Aren't you the least bit disturbed that our Federal emergency system failed on a grand scale?
 

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lmao

how much sympathy do you have for the fools who didn't do what is necessary to take care of their young, sick, and elderly?

Many are not even responsible to take care of their own families!!!

and you don't deem them responsible???

lunacy!!!

my question to you is this: how did these people become so irresponsible????
 
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I think your post and non answer to the Iragi question I posted proves you put corporations before Ameicans. It doesn't matter if you have contemp for poor people or not, my tax dollars are spent so that agencies like FEMA and Homeland Security work. We now see that they are full of incompetent cronies, drawing a nice salary from our tax dollars, but you don't find that alarming?
 

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find a government agency that is not filled with incompetence

federal, state or local level

and you want to give more money and power to these nincompoops

thats is exactly my point

people need to become less responsible on this clearly false sense of security which has been "levied" upon them and more self-sufficient

for some reason we are not headed in that direction as Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr. all have been increasing government size and inefficiency in the last 20 years

you want real compassion? take away the umbilical cord, so that these people have a fighting chance

will that happen? definitely not...we will instead get an extra line of red tape, bureaucracy, committees, oversight agency which will be equally ineffective as the last bunch doubing the innefficency and handicapping the government and people further
 

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the best thing that can happen now is if we eliminate FEMA, give the people a bigger tax cut, so that we can privately donate more and more money to help those in need and not spend our tax dollars on inefficient waste and then when the money goes out after being squandered with red tape, it is now being spent on strip bars and the like as some buffoons decided to issue a credit card

unbelievable
 

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But then again you had family in middlle of storm. Bus forgot to get them. And there stuck and it's to late. Your 200 miles away and can't help. So your saying let them drowen.
 

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I don't care if they got out or not. If they had thousands of dallars in a local bank for their kids college. They just lost their homes, their food, their clothing. They can't get to their money because they lost the bank, their bank cards. You doctor, are against giving them money to get thru this stretch? You are really a piece of work. Without FEMA and these other organizations you despise how do you think they would get anything to survive? Someone has to organize it. That is what your government is for. The fact that the shrub and "Brownie" screwed up is somehow okay with you. Amazing, simply amazing.
 

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The private sector has really stepped up w/ donations, so I think we could survive w/o FEMA. I agree with you Stevie that it has to be organized, but the government (on all levels) has really disappointed me in this situation. If they're going to be involved, they need to get some people (local, state, feds) who can take control of a situation from the start and not after people are waiting around w/o food, water and shelter. The city of NO did have a plan for this type of situation, but it was not followed after God knows what was spent to even put a plan like that together.

As for the debit cards, I heard something else on the radio about someone buying a play station with the debit card, so I am glad they stopped giving those out. Give them some type of vouchers that can only be used on necessities, etc.
 

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StevieD said:
I don't care if they got out or not. If they had thousands of dallars in a local bank for their kids college. They just lost their homes, their food, their clothing. They can't get to their money because they lost the bank, their bank cards. You doctor, are against giving them money to get thru this stretch? You are really a piece of work. Without FEMA and these other organizations you despise how do you think they would get anything to survive? Someone has to organize it. That is what your government is for. The fact that the shrub and "Brownie" screwed up is somehow okay with you. Amazing, simply amazing.

wtf are you talking about?

nothing like a leftist drawing up mindless simpleton insinuations and idiotic conclusions drawn from what i stated
 

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As for the debit cards, I heard something else on the radio about someone buying a play station with the debit card, so I am glad they stopped giving those out. Give them some type of vouchers that can only be used on necessities, etc.

yeah they stopped giving them out and instead are putting $$ in bank accounts with even less accountability

we will now be buying alcohol, cigarettes, and lottery tickets with our tax dollars

brilliant plan
 

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Doctor you are a perfect example of facist corporate hypocrit. I assume you accept medicade and state health payments. How can the private sector get money to the victems if there is not a plan and an institution set up to do it? There was one in FEMA before your boy Boys Bush and "Brownie" destroyed it. Is someone using the money for the wrong purpose of course some are. But some rich people cheat on their taxes too so maybe we should just not allow deductions?
 

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Doctor you are a perfect example of facist corporate hypocrit. I assume you accept medicade and state health payments. How can the private sector get money to the victems if there is not a plan and an institution set up to do it? There was one in FEMA before your boy Boys Bush and "Brownie" destroyed it. Is someone using the money for the wrong purpose of course some are. But some rich people cheat on their taxes too so maybe we should just not allow deductions?

ah i see we are now lowering ourselves to calling others "fascists"

or "corporate fascist hypocrites"...whatever the heck tha means

this is a cue, i thihnk, to assume that we have lost all grounds of reasonable discussion, and i will leave you to discuss things with fellow lunatics Rev. Jackson and Dr. Dean
 

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Go ahead doctor keep calling me liberal names while you avoid the questions posed. If these agencies are not set up and run with competent people how is the money from the gracious charities supposed to get delivered to the people who need it? Seeing as how you are so upset by $2,000 being spent by someone who lost everything, you must be really pissed at the tax cuts given to the oil corporations who are making record profits! Oh wait, corporate welfare doesn't bother you. You only care about keeping those who are down, down. Admit it, your boy has blown it on so many different levels even the likes of you can't defend him.
 

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Question Stevie-- out of curiousity who do YOU think was responsible for-- in order of occurance and lethal consequences
----hurricane Kartina?
--the "non" evacuation?
--maintanance of levees?
--positioning of the guard ?
--the recovery?

Do you think the reason for this catastrophic results of this incident considering nothing like it in the numerous hurricanes that have hit U.S. in prior years was--
A: Bush and his admin don't care about poor people?
B: Levee broke on city below sea level?
 
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