Why don't more people go for middles?

Why don't more people go for middles?

  • Yes - I do it often and think it's an effective strategy

    Votes: 9 52.9%
  • No - I tried it but didn't like throwing away wins

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No - I'd never try it, this sounds crazy

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • I'd never heard of middling before reading this article

    Votes: 4 23.5%

  • Total voters
    17

GM

PleasureGlutton
Forum Member
Jan 21, 2000
2,962
5
0
123
Toronto, ON, Canada
Ok, this will probably be a very long post, grab a snack. I promise it will be a good read and worthwhile. I'm sick at home and off work tomorrow so I've got time on my hands. May as well use the time to share some of the very little knowledge I have about this game of handicapping. :)

I have been using a betting strategy for 3-4 years now that some people may not be familiar with, middling. For those who haven't heard of it, it's simply the act of betting both sides of a game at different lines, hoping that the game lands in the middle and you win both.

IE. One book has GB -3?, another has Chi +4?. You bet both. You can't lose both bets, but you can WIN both. If (as expected) GB does not win by exactly 4, you trade a win for a loss, net result, you lose juice. But if they DO win by exactly 4, you win both bets. In essence, you are getting paid 20:1 on this gamble.

This however, ISN'T how I middle games. I like to middle totals. In particular, full game totals with second-half totals. It works like this:

O/U for the game is 39?, and I bet the Over. At the half the teams have combined for 24 pts. Second half line is an O/U of 20. For the second half, I bet Under.

This leaves me with a 4?-point middle. If the total lands anywhere between 40 and 43, I win both bets. If it lands on 44, I win my initial Over, push on my 2H Under. Any other result, I win one, lose one, just lose the juice. So it's the equivalent of risking 0.1 unit to win 2 (20:1). In other words, you only have to have a total land in this range 1 time in 19 and you profit in the long run.

Now it's been my experience that I win both bets much much more often than 1 in 19. I actually hit about 1 time in 6 doing this, if I pick my spots correctly. That is, I don't do it every time I have an initial Over bet. Two rules that must be followed to make it work:
  • Your initial bet must be on it's way to winning (if you have bet Over 39?, there must be at least 20 pts scored before you make a play...likewise for Under 39?, fewer than 19 pts must have been scored for this to work. Preferrably, at least 3-4 points away from the mid-point works best);
  • It must not have already won, or be extremely close to winning already (if you picked Over 39? and the teams have scored 37 at the half, you leave it alone and take your almost-sure win. Same thing if you have Under 39? and it's 6-0 at the half)
The optimal range is getting anything roughly from a 4 to 10 point middle. Anything less than 4 and it gets too hard to hit. Anything more than 10 and your original play is already on it's way to winning, so there's no point in taking the additional risk. The whole idea is to maximize profit, regardless of what you initially thought of the game.

Of course doing this, you CAN and WILL kill some winning plays. If in this example, in which 24 pts were scored at the half, the teams continue to pile it on and go over 44, you'll feel kind of stupid that your 2nd half bet lost and you juiced out. But on the other hand, there are quite a few occasions where the second half play will bail you out. The teams will combine for 13 second half points, your 2H bet wins, and you're only down 0.1 unit instead of a full unit.

I'd say on average if I use this betting strategy 6 times, on good middle opportunities (4 to 10 point middles), I will:
  • Win the original/lose the second half bet three times (50%);
  • Lose the original/win the second half bet twice (33%);
  • Win both bets 1 time (17%)
Net result = a gain of +1.5 units over the course of 6 attempts. Or to put that into perspective, if on 6 "normal" bets you go 4-2, you're up 1.8 units. But how long can you expect to go on picking 67% winners? It's pretty much impossible. This method is much more profitable and easier than just straight betting, if applied properly. And it really requires very little thought, just a quick calculation at the half to determine how "good" your middle opportunity is.

So I am wondering why more people don't (or won't) do it. I've posted my ideas on other websites and gotten a couple of positive responses, but in general what I hear is either, "Wow, I never thought of that" (ok, understandable). Or, "Why would you go against yourself? If you thought the game was an Over to begin with, why don't you trust your instincts and stick with it?". Because the whole idea is to lock in profit and minimize risk.

At the start of the 3rd quarter you know that you have virutally nothing to lose now. You can get out of an initial play that you feel may not work out (though this isn't the primary reason I do it). Yes, it's already 50% of the way there, but you KNOW watching some games that things are going to turn at the half, the tempo will change, the defences will adjust. At the same time, you're giving yourself a chance to double your profit. It really isn't about what I initially thought at all, it's about making $$ the smartest way possible. At least it is to me.

Does anyone else out there use this strategy? Have any comments or modifications you'd make? Think I'm nuts to do this? :D
 
Last edited:

MrChristo

The Zapper
Forum Member
Nov 11, 2001
4,414
5
0
Sexlexia...
Great timing, GM.

Just found a whopping middle.........

KC/Denver total 46 readily available....
KC/Denver total 42 @ Canbet ;)

Get a couple of juicy 'key' numbers of 44 and 45 in that gap too!

Not a big fan of middling myself....Generally if a bet on a game, I'll trust my instincts/research/numbers/whatever!, to be correct. Obviously there's times when this won't happen and I've stood staring at the screen, swearing black and blue that I will middle next time I have the chance!
But I like to bet on a game and stick to it....'til the bitter end :D

Just did a quick check, and 7 games have finished on or between those numbers so far this year ;)
 

lowell

Registered User
Forum Member
Jul 6, 2003
9,177
89
48
last week i had ohio st -19 and northwestern plus 21.got lucky.my local does not do halftime totals but i often have 2-3 points difference in totals by checking w/different people.how many points would you need to take a chance to middle.thanks
 

GM

PleasureGlutton
Forum Member
Jan 21, 2000
2,962
5
0
123
Toronto, ON, Canada
If I was middling two different full-game lines on the same game then I might take a shot at a 2? or 3-point middle, especially if there was a key # that fell into that range. But I don't middle two full-game totals at different books all that often.

Like I said, I'm talking about middling a full-game total with a half-time total. For that, I set my minimum at 4, because I am already putting myself in a position where I may be negating an initial winner. So I need a broader range to make it worth while (more likely to hit both).

I'll also middle full-game sides with half-time sides. Good example of that, the SNF Minn/Chi game in Week 2. I had already taken Minn -9? for the game (unusual that I would take a favorite of this size, by the way). At the half Minny leads by 7, and they are not playing well either, but well enough to still lead.

The halftime line at one of my books is offering Chi +6, whereas most other books were offering Chi +4?. So now I can bail out of the Vikings (the way they were playing I could have seen them getting sloppy and blowing it if Chi could have just done anything correctly). But I can also have Minny win by up to 12 pts and win both, or win by 13 and I win/push. The chances of it landing on 10 or 11 (Minn outscoring Chi by either 3 or 4 pts in the second half) was pretty good...those are some key numbers, that's worth the risk. And that's exactly what happened. Minn scored 7, Chi scored 3, and I won two bets while only risking a tenth of a unit. :D :D
 

SHOWRUNNER

Registered User
Forum Member
Mar 17, 2003
360
1
0
Great write-up GM! I do use middles sometimes and they are a beautiful thing!

And MrChristo - that looks like a great middle on the Denver/KC game...

I am all about crunching numbers to guarantee a profit...

Here is another little strategy I have developed & used - and has made me a lot of money over the past 5 years - I call it "Different Game Time Betting" - the strategy uses hedging and allows you to bet multiple games and parlay them together to increase your potential payout - and the whole risk is only on the first game of the parlay - you win the first game - you are GUARANTEED a profit! You lose, well you just lose the small parlay wager...

Here is an example of how it works - i will give you an example of a bet you could make for this coming NFL sunday while using "Different Game Time Betting" :

You take a look at the lines for Sunday & see 3 games that you like that have different start times and will allow you to find out the out come of each game before the other one starts. It is CRITICAL that the games will start & end before any of the other games start!!

You decide that you like these 3 games w/ the following start times:

Packers -2.5 game starts Sunday at noon
Cleveland +7 game starts Sunday at 7:30pm
Indy +4.5 game starts Monday at 8pm

Assuming you get these all at a -110 line, you parlay all 3 together and risk 1 unit to win 6 units.

You could bet all the games separately - but then you have the risk of losing 3 wagers....w/ "Different Game Time Betting" - you just risk losing 1 wager - all the risk lies in the first played game in the parlay - in this case Packers -2.5...

Here is what you do - it is Sunday at noon - and the Packers beat the Seahawks by 7 - so you cover your first bet in the parlay - do you have to win the next 2 bets to win money - the answer is NO!

You can now hedge your bet to at least break even or GUARANTEE a profit - this is what you do:

You have 1 unit risked to win 6 units i a 3 team parlay w/ GB, Cleveland & Indy...

Now before the Pittsburgh/Cleveland game - bet 1.1 units to win 1 units on Pittsburgh...no matter who wins the game - you are not going to lose anything - worst that happens is you break even!!

If Pittsburgh covers- , you lose 1 unit on the parlay & win 1 unit on the Pittsburgh bet - breaking even - hey it's not a loss! Now your wagering sequence is done (doesn't matter what happens in the Indy game).

If Cleveland covers, you lose 1.1 units on the Pittsburgh play - but still can win 6 units on the 3-team parlay!

Let's say Cleveland covers - so you are down 1.1 units for the Pitt play - now you bet 3.3 units to win 3 units on TB -4.5...

If Indy covers - you lose the 3.3 units on TB & you lost 1.1 units on the Pitt game - but you win 6 units on the 3 team parlay - netting 1.6 units!!

If TB covers - you lose the 1 unit parlay & lost the 1.1 units for the Pitt Play but win 3 units - thus netting .9 units!

So as you can see - all your risk lies in the first game - and say GB didn't cover the -2.5 - well you are only down the 1 unit...

You can use this strategy in parlays of any sport - the key is to know what the outcome of a game is before the next one starts - and you could have 3, 4, 5 or more team parlays - i have used this in baseball too - can put a lot of games together to get a big parlay payoff - and after the first game wins - hedge, hedge, hedge! And you have to play w/ the numbers - you could hedge the 2nd game to always guarantee a small profit - i like crunching numbers & looking at different payoff scenarios...

Well hope this helps some people out - everyone should try & use it - it is a great strategy! Eliminates all risk of losing a bet after the first game hits...of course your first game won't win every time...but how many times have locked in 5 different plays - lets say you risked 2.2 units to win 2 units on each - and then went 0-5? It has happened to us all - now you have lost 11 units...you could have put all 5 in a 5-team parlay - risking just 1 unit - and if the first game lost, are down 1 unit instead of 11...

Obviously I don't always use this strategy - I like most people do play several games at one time...but this is one I have used & let me speak from having success w/ it - it really works...

Good luck to you guys! It is info like this we share w/ each other that makes us all better cappers & more money!

--SHOWRUNNER
 

gardenweasel

el guapo
Forum Member
Jan 10, 2002
40,599
245
63
"the bunker"
when i see

when i see

a line that looks off....or at least is a line that i believe most people will believe looks off,i hit it extra hard...i hit the raiders this week at -3 at oly right before the bear-packer kickoff....and after the bear`s showing,i fully expected to have a legit middle to play with....so far,only 4`s out there....but,i still believe we have a shot at a 5,maybe even a 6 by gametime....if not,i`ll off some at 4....

i do look for middle opportunities in totals and prime football numbers(3,4,6,7,10,11)......i have hit some decent sized ones...but i have lost many more than i`ve hit(obviously)....it`s worth it to me to hit a nice middle once in a blue moon...i don`t mind losing a little juice once in a while....is it fiscally responsible?....i really don`t know....maybe not in the long run....

but i like to gamble....risking a a little to win a lot is pretty much irresistable when you have the disease.... :nono: :D

btw.....the halftime/total/game/total theory is an interesting one......might warrant some further investigation on my part...used to have 2 locals...one that would move his lines every few minutes.....one that posted a line and never moved it....i used to go crazy with 4 and 5 middles every week....

interesting stuff..g.l.
 
Last edited:

On Top

Registered User
Forum Member
Sep 7, 2003
46
0
0
Fort Worth
GM-

You're not nuts at all. That's a smart strategy, especially if you've locked down the parameters you're going to use to make the 2nd H play or not and have proven to yourself that it works. That's the first key. The second is checking your ego and forgetting what you might have originally thought about the game and making the play when it's there.
 

GM

PleasureGlutton
Forum Member
Jan 21, 2000
2,962
5
0
123
Toronto, ON, Canada
On Top -

I'd have to say...I agree with you! :) I believe in this system, and I've tried sharing it with whomever would listen over the last few years. I really do believe it is a profitable way to go. And you're right, you can't let your ego/stubbornness/initial handicapping get in the way. It's really just about maximizing profit and limiting risk.

My initial (full game) bet is always what I think will happen after doing my handicapping. And I never place a bet specifically for the purpose of hoping that it can be middled. I place all my bets, then see which ones are middleable later.

Interesting that this is the 3rd forum I have posted this on over the years, and the first time the majority of the votes have agreed with me. Says something about the quality of the 'cappers here I think. :)
 

ELVIS

Registered User
Forum Member
Sep 25, 2002
3,620
1
0
memphis
there is nothing in the world sweeter than a middle. having said that-gm you are much smarter than me. great job and gl.
 

Callsport

Registered User
Forum Member
Sep 7, 2003
36
0
0
53
great stuff..i had researched that parlay system before but as in depth as you have here...;)
 
Bet on MyBookie
Top