W's poll numbers fall further

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WASHINGTON ? Rocked by Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath, record-high gas prices, and the continued debate over Iraq, President George W. Bush?s public standing has sunk to new lows, the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll finds.

Bush's approval rating has declined to its lowest level in his presidency. So has his handling of the situation in Iraq. Moreover, fewer than half those surveyed approve of the way in which Bush has dealt with the hurricane, and a whopping three-fourths believe the United States is not prepared for a nuclear, biological or chemical attack.

?The president has been living on the edge for the last 18 months,? said Democratic pollster Peter D. Hart, referring to Bush?s approval rating, which until recently had held steady at or just below 50 percent since 2004.

Recent events take toll
But Hart notes that recent events, especially Hurricane Katrina, have taken a toll on Bush. ?What happened out of all of this is that the personal characteristics that had been holding the president up basically burst,? he said.


Republican pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted the survey with Hart, adds that he has disliked stories portraying Sept. 11 and Katrina as bookends for Bush ? that the first event boosted his presidency, while the second has done the opposite. But he says these poll numbers suggest that is indeed what?s happening. ?It?s hard to avoid that bookend story.?

According to the poll, Bush?s job approval has plummeted to 40 percent, an all-time low for the president. That?s a drop of 6 points from the NBC/Wall Street Journal poll taken in July, and it?s consistent with results from other recent national surveys. The poll also finds that just 37 percent of respondents approve of Bush?s job handling Iraq, compared with 58 percent who disapprove ? another all-time low. In addition, 55 percent want to reduce the number of troops in Iraq, while just 36 percent want to maintain the current level there.

August a bad month
Hart notes the Iraq numbers are particularly bad news for the White House considering other stories have recently overshadowed that one. ?There hasn?t been a single piece of news on Iraq on the front page,? he says.

This survey of 1,013 adults ? which was conducted from Sept. 9-12 and has an overall margin of error of plus or minus 3.1 percentage points ? comes after an eventful August when gas prices skyrocketed to record highs, Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, and other anti-war protesters held a month-long vigil outside of Bush?s ranch in Texas and Hurricane Katrina demolished much of New Orleans and the Gulf Coast.

Bush and his administration have since been criticized for responding too slowly to the hurricane and its aftermath. The poll shows that 48 percent approve of Bush?s handling here, while an equal 48 percent disapprove. That?s down from the 80 percent who approved of the president?s handling of Sept. 11 immediately after the terrorist attacks.

Bush, however, has taken recent steps to address the criticism: On Monday, he accepted the resignation of embattled FEMA chief Michael Brown; on Tuesday, he took responsibility for the administration?s failures in its response to the hurricane; and on Thursday, he is set to deliver a primetime speech from Louisiana.

One Katrina-related story that has grabbed headlines is that many of the Gulf Coast residents who couldn?t escape the storm were poor and minorities. According to the NBC/Journal poll, only 37 percent agree with the statement that the Bush administration would have acted with greater urgency had the affected areas been mostly white suburban communities. But there is a huge discrepancy by race here: Seventy percent of African Americans agree with the statement, while 67 percent of whites disagree.

Iraq versus domestic concerns
After Katrina, 75 percent now believe the United States is not adequately prepared for a nuclear, biological or chemical attack. That?s an increase since June 2002, nine months after Sept. 11, when 66 percent believed this.

When asked to choose between rebuilding Iraq and establishing a democratic government there or rebuilding New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, 60 percent of respondents said New Orleans is the greater priority, while just 5 percent mentioned Iraq. Thirty-four percent said both are equally important.

On a somewhat similar note, 45 percent believe that reducing spending on the Iraq war is one or two actions that should be taken to pay for the Katrina relief efforts. That?s followed by 27 percent who want to repeal tax cuts, 12 percent who want to cut federal spending in other areas (such as education), 8 percent who want to increase the deficit and 7 percent who want to raise income taxes.

Overall, both pollsters ? the Democrat Hart and the Republican McInturff ? say this survey doesn?t provide much good news for the Bush White House. But McInturff argues that it?s premature to close the book on Bush?s second term, pointing out that Bill Clinton was able to bounce back after the Monica Lewinsky scandal, and that Ronald Reagan was able to do the same after Iran-Contra.

?Three years is a long, long time,? McInturff said. ?Given what?s happened in this year alone, who knows what will happen in the next three years.?
 

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So high gas prices and the hurricane are the main cause?

2 things that Bush can't control. Maybe we should convince China and their booming economy to not use up so much gas. And if the mayor of New Orleans would have followed the Official New Orleans Evauation plan, calling for public and school buses to be used to get everyone out, then Bush wouldn't have had to cover for him. The liberal left media will lead you to believe it's Bush's fault though. And how do you expect Bush to have high poll numbers regarding Iraq when the American media only shows the negative stuff that goes on there???? Awful funny that the troops paint a totally different picture of Iraq than the Bush hating liberal media does. Was this an NBC poll??

Ronald Reagan's approval rating was 37% while he took on communism. He was one of the greatest ever. I'm not sure what your point is. Are you trying to smear Bush like the media does?
 
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Chuckles,

A. I didn't write the article, so your placing blame on the wrong source.

B. You are wrong to absolve the Buch Administration of any fault for the poor response to Katrina just as others are at fault for putting the total blame on him.

C. The good news coming out of Iraq is very little and the bad news is overwhelming. Every day it seems as though 100's of people die and if anything the insurgency seems to be getting stronger. Placing the blame for bad news in Iraq on the media is wrong, you need to place some of the publics anguish on Iraq at the foot of the administration for their deception and misstatements about Iraq, do you really expect the American people to believe any good news they here from Bush or Cheney when it has become impossible to separate their fact from fiction?

4. W is no Ronald Reagan and not even close and even Reagan's family squirm at the comparison. Reagan was a uniter of the people whereas Bush is a divider.
 

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You and I both know that the liberal Bush hating media only shows negative stuff about Iraq. And if Reagan was a uniter then why was his approval rating 37%? It's because he was a republican who ignored poll numbers and did what he felt was right...regardless of the liberal media's hatred for him..hmmm sounds familiar doesn't it?
 
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Bush also liberated 50 Million people from terrorist governments. I'd say that's pretty Reaganesque. But since you're a Bush hater I know you like to ignore that fact. Whatever, keep losing elections and see if I care.
 

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I have never heard anyone who has a pulse that would consider W and Reagan as equals.
 

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Bush also liberated 50 Million people from terrorist governments. I'd say that's pretty Reaganesque. But since you're a Bush hater I know you like to ignore that fact. Whatever, keep losing elections and see if I care.


Chuckles,

Your reaching,,,,,,Bush didn't go there to liberate he went there to disarm a nuke program that didn't exist and to defeat terrorism that didn't exist. You fail to realize that Reagan bridge gaps and was a uniter, contrary to what you believe Bush is a divider perhaps the biggest in recent history. As far as being a Bush hater, actually I am a equal opportunity hater that hates incompetence in leadership and Bush falls into this category.
 

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Ah, if only Kerry would have been elected all of this would be idle fodder. But what would Stevie D(emocrat puppet) do to amuse himself when everything was right in his world????
 

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Hey Ferd, once again I go after your butt boy Bush because he is in charge. His party has been in charge since the day he took over. Everything has been done his way because they are in charge. That is why I go after him. Ferd and a few other on here seem to want to blame the party that is not in charge. I was not in love with Kerry. Personally, I think he has lost his edge. The only thing he had going for him was that he wasn't Bush.
 

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There is one way to try and stop those poll numbers from going down. Show up in front of mikes every other day and say I care and I'm wrong. You can see Karl Rowe at work. Don't have to believe a thing you say, but say it anyway. It's just politics guys.
 

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Guys, I think I know what the problem with W's poll numbers is. The soccer moms.

These soccer moms, probably the most ill informed and selfish group of people in the country, have strayed from the fold. These women, the group that swept W into office for a second term in overwhelming numbers, are to blame for his numbers reversal.

All they see on TV every night is suicide bombs going off in Iraq, sky high gas prices, and poor black children living in shelters in Texas. These moms react emotionally. They don't know any better. They only care about the security of their family. And when they see this stuff on TV, it scares them. They only want themselves and their family to be safe.

They only know that if they feel vulnerable, then something is wrong with their security blanket... and Big Daddy is to blame...that's right, the President.

The Republicans need to get Karl Rove out there to stop this thing before it deteriorates any further. Maybe some sort of media campaign will regain Soccer Mom confidence in time for the 2006 elections.

Maybe if W sailed into New Orleans on the deck of an aircraft carrier...no, wait...

Perhaps Rush Limbaugh could start reporting better stories, like evacuees spending Katrina relief money to buy plasma TVs. Then, Fox News could pick up on that and ask if these people are professional victims. If all goes according to plan, NBC will then be showing black children spending their relief funds to buy Nike Retro Air Jordans.

These Soccer Moms must be made to see that these evacuees are not objects of sympathy, but rather scam artists. And maybe this poll business will get straightened out.
 

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I appreciate the fact he doesn't let opinion or poll # sway him--unlike some that go with what ever public wants to hear--IMHO thats makes him less a politician--if you like those who change stripes with the polls --and let public opinion dictate whether their liberal or moderate this time around then good possibilty you get your shot next election--
 

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I appreciate the fact he doesn't let opinion or poll # sway him--unlike some that go with what ever public wants to hear--IMHO thats makes him less a politician--if you like those who change stripes with the polls --and let public opinion dictate whether their liberal or moderate this time around then good possibilty you get your shot next election


It can also be a down fall of not deviating from the plan even when your wrong
 

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no arguement there--I think he fell down on medicare entitlement--also on being all time leader on entitlement spending for the poor (he spent more than Clinton by each mid-term yet only reduced poverty 1% less than Clinton)--and more recently I believe he went over board on spending on disaster relief. I am of the opinion there are some areas it makes no diff how much money you burn it won't change things.You can't force people to get education--you can't force them to work ect.
 
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