6.1% is nothing to our 51 state Iraq that has 55%. However Iraq gets abetter deal then the first 50 states. They get new schools new offcie bulidings, new roads, new bridges. Seems our smart bombs may have missed there targets alittle. Of course now that we know he really wasn't coming after us with all his Nukes. And we find out he was not training any one for terror attacks. Well we could have use our brains and witt alittle better and avoided all this. In fact all those people he gassed. Last report said that all was done 13 to 15 years ago. I guess it was not important how many he gassed then. But of course we took the fight to all those terror groups in Iraq. The ones that have been showing up after the war. Hell I hate war. Seen all I need of it. But would never be against it when my country is on the line. But we know that was not the case. And the real guy we still have not gotten. And he still has his folks out there every once in a while blow a few folks up just to let us know he's still around. We Should have finished our first job.
6.1% unemployment don't complain.
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I have noticed now that the truth is out. Must responces are just that. I see the boss is back at the UN today. Where he should have been in the first place before he got attack grazy. Now he has to come back with egg on his face and start kissing the French and Germans asses. You could see it all coming. I guess thats why his numbers in the polls are lowest ever for him.
SNIFF SNIFF SNIFF, WAH. Cry me a river. If we spent a trillion dollars in Iraq they wouldnt be better off than us, so your tirade about how they got a better deal than us holds no water and in fact comes off as completely ridiculous. You think some new bridges and roads mean they are better off than we are? Helping them rebuild a country (which by the way wasnt exactly "on its feet" before we moved in) thats a bad thing? You think they were actually better off before we came along? I think they would trade some downed bridges for the removal of a homicidal dictator and his two sons.
I would like to know in your infinite wisdom how you would have "used your brains" more and "avoided this" because you said we COULD have not should have, so what did we miss? The fact is that we have only been in there 6 months, its too early to emphatically state what we know and dont know or have found and not found. I mean if you gave me a years notice and a country the size of California, I could hide a truckful of 50 gallon drums and you would never find them. Amazing that even after a week in Iraq people were jumping up and down about we havent found anything. Do I think there is something there to find? Absolutely. Do I think it is going to take a significant amount of time to find it? Of course.
In between all the crying I lost your point, what is your point, we shouldnt complain about the state of our country because somewhere in the world its worse? So basically never complain or comment about your life in the US or about the state of our economy in general because somewhere some poor impovershed land will always be worse? Or was this just another post in diguise to unleash some more anti-war/Bush feelings?
Call the wahhhmbulance, someone needs a lift.
I would like to know in your infinite wisdom how you would have "used your brains" more and "avoided this" because you said we COULD have not should have, so what did we miss? The fact is that we have only been in there 6 months, its too early to emphatically state what we know and dont know or have found and not found. I mean if you gave me a years notice and a country the size of California, I could hide a truckful of 50 gallon drums and you would never find them. Amazing that even after a week in Iraq people were jumping up and down about we havent found anything. Do I think there is something there to find? Absolutely. Do I think it is going to take a significant amount of time to find it? Of course.
In between all the crying I lost your point, what is your point, we shouldnt complain about the state of our country because somewhere in the world its worse? So basically never complain or comment about your life in the US or about the state of our economy in general because somewhere some poor impovershed land will always be worse? Or was this just another post in diguise to unleash some more anti-war/Bush feelings?
Call the wahhhmbulance, someone needs a lift.
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boy djv, i must be missing something. i don't think bush has egg on his face or does he have to kiss ass. imo, those countries & those who are against the war in iraq, are missing the point about terrorism. countries that support, hide, or medically treat terrorists must be made ro realize that they are wrong.
as far as france * germany are concerned, they could go **** themselves.
when france had their security threatened, the us went to fight & die for them.
when germany was being threatened by russia, the us stood by their side.
when the us feels threatened, these two countries turned their back on us.
i will give germany credit that they are helping in afghan, but france has done nothing but go out of their way to hinder the u.s. at every move.
it's much too early for people to watch the polls. these dems. have been hamering bush non-stop. the polls will eventually start changing once bush starts campaigning.
i have voted much more for democratic candidates then republicans. but imo, god help this country if any of the dems get elected president. we finally have a pres. who is willing to do something about confronting these thugs.
as far as clark is concerned....i didn't know much about him before he entered the field. have not heard him comment on any issues. but so far am not too impressed with him. he seems to change his mind about things every other day.
i feel about him like i feel about arnold, they are both poor candidates.
i wonder how you felt when carter had a 10% unemployment, 17% interest rate & we were waiting hours to get gas.
as far as france * germany are concerned, they could go **** themselves.
when france had their security threatened, the us went to fight & die for them.
when germany was being threatened by russia, the us stood by their side.
when the us feels threatened, these two countries turned their back on us.
i will give germany credit that they are helping in afghan, but france has done nothing but go out of their way to hinder the u.s. at every move.
it's much too early for people to watch the polls. these dems. have been hamering bush non-stop. the polls will eventually start changing once bush starts campaigning.
i have voted much more for democratic candidates then republicans. but imo, god help this country if any of the dems get elected president. we finally have a pres. who is willing to do something about confronting these thugs.
as far as clark is concerned....i didn't know much about him before he entered the field. have not heard him comment on any issues. but so far am not too impressed with him. he seems to change his mind about things every other day.
i feel about him like i feel about arnold, they are both poor candidates.
i wonder how you felt when carter had a 10% unemployment, 17% interest rate & we were waiting hours to get gas.
I'm not supporting Bush or what happened in Iraq, I just want to know how people who complain about our economy has anything to do with gassing people. If you want to post some anti-war feelings then do so. Dont try to mask it inside a post about how the United States should be happy with 6.1% unemployment, because thats just nonsense.StevieD said:
When we wanted to go into Iraq, France and Germany wanted the UN to go in. Now that people are clamoring for the UN to get involved, including the US, France and Germany are dragging their feet and threating a veto. Nice "allies"AR182 said:
It's simple, and you dont care. I do. It's my money and yours being pissed down the drain thats the point. We should hold his feet in the fire. Tell the dam truth. Dont keep listing to that cheat Cheney. Hey Bushs poll numbers are there for a reason. Partly because they talk in circles. You know dam well Iraq was as important as a fart in the wind. But maybe you dont if you keep believing the spin. I dont. Hey he will get re-elected. If for no other reason the money they will use to buy the election. But that still does make anything right about pissing all of ours money away. Remember he was elected as a conservative. I voted for him because of that. And he has failed big time.
djv, with all your liberel diatribes you post on here I find it hard to believe you voted for Bush, let alone the fact you say you voted for him because he was conservative...
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:shrug: Maybe DJV was just trying to say that if Bush proposed spending the hundreds of billions that this operation will end up costing, on our own infrastructure, and on our own people, that there would be holy hell for him to pay from the same people that have no problem pouring the money into this lost cause.
And as i've said all along, and Stevie alluded to, since when did everybody become so concerned about those Iraqi people? I guess it could be one of two answers. 1. When Bush told us to. or 2. We never really did and we still don't, but right now that's the only response that we have to questions about wtf we are doing there.
And as i've said all along, and Stevie alluded to, since when did everybody become so concerned about those Iraqi people? I guess it could be one of two answers. 1. When Bush told us to. or 2. We never really did and we still don't, but right now that's the only response that we have to questions about wtf we are doing there.
It's simple, and you dont care. I do.It's my money and yours being pissed down the drain thats the point.
You have no idea what I care about or what I think our money should be spent on. More than 3/4 of the country supported going to war to remove Saddam from power. He may or may not still be a live, but he is no longer in power.
We should hold his feet in the fire. Tell the dam truth.
What exactly do you expect to hear? I dont care how right or left someone is, do you really think Bush and the people around him would risk American lives if they didnt have a very good military reason? I refuse to believe he would send 200,000 Americans into harms way for the stock anti-war answer: "oil".
Dont keep listing to that cheat Cheney.
Good old fashioned liberal whitewash, when you have no evidence, just call everyone cheats
Hey he will get re-elected. If for no other reason the money they will use to buy the election.
Again your anti-Bush slant makes me laugh, but OK, then why is Clark ahead of Bush in this mornings poll?
Remember he was elected as a conservative. I voted for him because of that. And he has failed big time.
Can you explain how this war has anything to do with him not being a conservative anymore? He didnt wake up overnight and become pro-choice, he's still the same conservative. And how the hell am I supposed to believe someone like you voted for him? I just saw Blitzs post as well, you are either lying or you were drunk when you voted. For someone who cant stop bashing Bush and Chaney, YOU VOTED FOR THEM. All I can say is you got what you voted for buddy.
You have no idea what I care about or what I think our money should be spent on. More than 3/4 of the country supported going to war to remove Saddam from power. He may or may not still be a live, but he is no longer in power.
We should hold his feet in the fire. Tell the dam truth.
What exactly do you expect to hear? I dont care how right or left someone is, do you really think Bush and the people around him would risk American lives if they didnt have a very good military reason? I refuse to believe he would send 200,000 Americans into harms way for the stock anti-war answer: "oil".
Dont keep listing to that cheat Cheney.
Good old fashioned liberal whitewash, when you have no evidence, just call everyone cheats
Hey he will get re-elected. If for no other reason the money they will use to buy the election.
Again your anti-Bush slant makes me laugh, but OK, then why is Clark ahead of Bush in this mornings poll?
Remember he was elected as a conservative. I voted for him because of that. And he has failed big time.
Can you explain how this war has anything to do with him not being a conservative anymore? He didnt wake up overnight and become pro-choice, he's still the same conservative. And how the hell am I supposed to believe someone like you voted for him? I just saw Blitzs post as well, you are either lying or you were drunk when you voted. For someone who cant stop bashing Bush and Chaney, YOU VOTED FOR THEM. All I can say is you got what you voted for buddy.
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Yeah, and we treated the U.N. as a useless organization that should be ignored (when it was convenient and fit our plans) and now we expect them to help with the endless, expensive and hopeless part of the deal.
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I completely agree with you, not only that but we withheld billions of dollars in dues that we just chose not to pay. I dont know however how much of this is we need them in there financially, or we want them in there geopolitically or third how much is political appeasement for our allies who want the UN? I agree with you and I dont really know the answer.kosar said:
As soon as I find another country that will let me have the freedoms I have here... to buy a nice car, get relatively cheap gas to drive around and see the sights, to wake up and know that I won't have some thug beating on my door and throwing a grenade in the window "just for fun", and be able to go to the store and not worry about getting killed in crossifire, and many other things....like being able to get educated and go find a decent job that I enjoy and make a good living at...
I am moving there.
Until then I guess I am stuck in this horrid, rancid, leaderless, poverty stricken country we call america.
got any ideas where I can move to djv?
I am moving there.
Until then I guess I am stuck in this horrid, rancid, leaderless, poverty stricken country we call america.
got any ideas where I can move to djv?
here is an e-mail i received, from a friend, who is also against the bush administation:
The government announced today that it is changing its National Emblem to
a condom because it more clearly reflects the government's political stance.
A condom stands up to inflation, halts production, destroys the next
generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of
security while you're actually being screwed.
( DAMN, it just doesn't get more accurate than that!)
i guess i am just naive(sp) but i don't feel that iraq is a lost cause. i don't expect their country to have the same democratic philosophy as we have, but i feel that they could have a somewhat similar gov't.
i don't feel it is a matter of humanitarian help, but i do think that countries cannot be a safehaven for these thugs.
i have spent enough time on this. i have to go & re-evaluate why i am sucking in the football contest.
The government announced today that it is changing its National Emblem to
a condom because it more clearly reflects the government's political stance.
A condom stands up to inflation, halts production, destroys the next
generation, protects a bunch of pricks, and gives you a sense of
security while you're actually being screwed.
( DAMN, it just doesn't get more accurate than that!)
i guess i am just naive(sp) but i don't feel that iraq is a lost cause. i don't expect their country to have the same democratic philosophy as we have, but i feel that they could have a somewhat similar gov't.
i don't feel it is a matter of humanitarian help, but i do think that countries cannot be a safehaven for these thugs.
i have spent enough time on this. i have to go & re-evaluate why i am sucking in the football contest.
AR,
Come on, my man. That place has only become a haven for terrorists since we occupied. If *that's* the goal, Iraq should have been about 10th or 15th on the list to invade.
Marine,
Totally agree. So what's so wrong with preferring to spend money domestically rather than on invading countries that are non-threats to our country. Or even to take care of countries that *are* threats. What we have here is a money pit with no end in sight and no real chance to achieve are 'stated' goals.
Come on, my man. That place has only become a haven for terrorists since we occupied. If *that's* the goal, Iraq should have been about 10th or 15th on the list to invade.
Marine,
Totally agree. So what's so wrong with preferring to spend money domestically rather than on invading countries that are non-threats to our country. Or even to take care of countries that *are* threats. What we have here is a money pit with no end in sight and no real chance to achieve are 'stated' goals.
Just because someone uses his mind and his right to disagree with the current administration doesn't mean he thinks another country is better than this one. If you think everyone who questions this President should move then I ask you why didn't you move somewhere better when Clinton was President? The reason is because there isn't any place better. But one of the real reasons it is the best is because we have the right to disagree with our present leaders when we think they are wrong.
Kosar, wondering dont you think its a little too soon to say there's no end in sight and we have no chance to achieve our goals? I mean, its only been 6 months, while I agree the only thing we have done is remove Saddam/Uday/Quasi from power, dont you think the search for weapons needs a legitamate shot before we deem it a failure?
