Saddam's capture question

[dawgball]

What does this mean for our long run of plans? I really didn't think that we would capture him once he went into hiding. The things that I can see is that it will raise the citizens of Iraq's morale as they do not have to fear that he will regain control. Does it demoralize those still causing uprisings to our efforts? Does it raise the morale of our troops and those of our allies in this effort?

I am no expert when it comes to these things, so everyone's opinion is welcome. What do you think the advantages (or disadvantages) are now that we have captured Saddam?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Dawgball:

Its my understanding, Sadaam is going to run for governor of California.

Eddie

 

[Schouest]

The Iraqis weren't buying what we were selling about a free Iraq til they saw the Hussein's in body bags.

A capture of Saddam is a HUGE step, but I don't think the judicial process is as important to them as it is in America. They want this old dictator PLANTED underground somewhere with worms in his eye sockets--he murdered tons of folks, they want that eye for an eye justice.

 

[dawgball]

Pretty funny, Eddie. With the crazy viewpoints of the people out there, I wouldn't doubt that he could get elected.

Two more questions:

How does this effect the 2004 election campaign?

Does this open the door for another potential terrorist leader that would not make his move while Saddam was at large?

 

[dawgball]

One more question:

How does this effect our troops in Iraq? What percentage will get to come home?

I still think there is a lot that our soldiers can provide over there helping with the rebuilding phase, but I don't think we need the massive numbers occupying at this time.

I am more interested in what will occur over the next few months.

 

[KMA]

While I am elated by this news, this is by no means the end of anything quite yet. I think this could elevate the violence in Iraq via Saddam sympathizers. Just because he is captured, does not mean that people who have been attacking the troops in his name will just lay down their arms and give up. There is a long road ahead and I hope people realize that. A step ahead but our troops have MILES to go!!!



All the Bush-bashers can wring their hands and complain all they want!!!

It does NOT change the simple fact that Saddam's capture is a step forward for Iraq AND the U.S.










"This is not the end. This is not even the beginning of the end. But, it is the end of the beginning."
Winston Churchill

 

[ego74]

Mark my words, all you will hear from the Dems in the next month," we dont have bin ladin. where's bin ladin. bin ladin was responsible for 9/11. blah blah blah

 

[Chanman]

What happened to Fighting to the Death, Driving the Infidels from our Homeland, Rivers of Blood, 72 Virgins awaiting Allah's Martyr's, etc.? Saddam looks like the Iraqi version of Rufus the Stunt Bum and it sounds like he didn't know his a** from his hole in the ground either :tongue

Eddie/Dawgball- You probably already know that Mary Carey, the pornstar, got 10,000 votes for CA Governor

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Hey Dawg
Just some personal opinions.
I think the way he was caught will have very positive effect especially for any younger terrorist wannabes that all this ain't as glorious as they hoped and shed some light on these that they have looked up to as brave for the very cowards they are, duping the little guys to sacrifice while they cower like the vermin they are.

Lots of people squirmimg right now and the biggest could be the French cause Saddam will probably do some spilling.

I think most positive effect will be the Iraqi stepping up but look for terrorist attacks to still be there especially in coming days but then tapor off dramatically. Also we have more special forces available now for Bin Laden,and what do you think goes through his mind today??--not if but when.

Thought Blairs speech was very good especially on how we liberated Muslims Saddam had torchered. Don't know if it was coincidence but Alljazeera network almost did about face on their coverage shortly after his speech.

Politically was blow especially for Dean camp.However I figure him to counter with spending agenda (the reward money) and theres still Bin Laden but if he's captured he'll bring in Jimmy Hoffa somehow.

When I 1st saw this come over wires early this morning the 1st thing I thought of was quote by Edmond Burke that they had at conclusion of movie I watched last night(Tears in the Sun)
"The only way evil men triumph is for good men to do nothing"

 

[ego74]

Jimmy Hoffa!!!!!!!! LMFAO!!!!!!!!

 

[ryson]

Mark my words, all you will hear from the Dems in the next month," we dont have bin ladin. where's bin ladin. bin ladin was responsible for 9/11. blah blah blah

Yes they probably will, I saw a few reports today that there was evidence that tied Atta to training in Iraq, memo's to saddam from intel officials and no it was not on Fox News. Intesting to see what the candidates say. Although I must say I was rather impressed with Liberman this AM, stating he was "elated" when he heard the news.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Ryson I liked in particular Liebermans remark about Dean.

"If Howard Dean had his way, Saddam Hussein would still be in power today, not in prison, and the world would be a much more dangerous place."

Only rebutle Deans followers have for that is the was obvious and predictable--spin it in new direction.

Democratic activist Donna Brazile, campaign manager for Vice President Al Gore (news - web sites) in the 2000 election, said it would allow Lieberman, Gephardt, Kerry and Edwards to put their yes votes behind them, but she did not believe it would hamper Dean in the long run.
"Now people will start asking 'Where is Osama?"' Brazile said.

I think Dean has no choice now but to try and change his spots once again and try a swing to the middle approach---and sooner or later it will be apparent to even a few of the hard core lefts that his agenda follows which ever the wind blows.

 

[djv]

Dean should not change his mind. He thought the war and the way we went about it was wrong. He should have the balls to stick to that. There are many Americans that felt that way. Joe L is just trying to say right things at the right time. Makes him no better then all our other politicians right and left. Results with Saddam gone should be good in the long run. By the looks of things with the little money he had with him. Hideing out on the run he had little to do with much of whats has happen in Iraq last 2/3 months. Not only do the French have to worry DTB. We do to. Lets not forget who was on his side in the 80's. We Were. We helped support the buying of some of his weapons that helped killed many Iran soldiers and a few Kurds to. We were not even bothering with him till 91. He thought Bush 1 gave him green light to act as he did. He was wrong. But we did treat him as a friend till 91. He killed and gassed many of those 75000 folks when we were still his buddy.

 

[ego74]

Memo to Nikita Dean:

Thank you for your participation in the 2004 election....please pick up your parting gifts ON THE WAY OUT!!!!!!!!!!

P.S. four more years!!!!!!!!

 

[StevieD]

Just because Saddam has been captured does not make the invasion of Iraq the correct thing to do. Captured or not Hussien was still put out of power way during the Shock and Awe aspect of the war. Bush all ready celebrated this fact aboard an aircraft carrier with the words Mission Accomplished behind him. Are you now saying that the mission wasn't accomplished then? If so why did he do that?
But seriously, Saddam may talk about Rumsfelds and Reagans ties to these gassing deaths that they financed.
Anyway, I am glad Saddam is captured. If it brings the war one more day to being over it is great news. But don't write Dean off yet. There was still better and less costly ways to get Saddam.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Stevie I don't ever think the war objections will ever be a anything but detrimental to opposing candidates because od security issue. I even think there is possibilty that New York after 911 go conservative in next eletion for 1st time in eons.
If there is one thing that will cost him election it is this bullshit

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=580&e=3&u=/nm/20031215/bs_nm/economy_bush_dc

 

[JT]

The purpose of the war was to find WMDs in regards to Iraq's non compliance of UN resolutions. We still have not found those WMDs if they ever existed to the extent Bush's Administration claimed. Does this mean I am glad Saddam was caught, sure I am. However, I never felt in 'danger' with him in power and feel no different now then before this war happened. As for freedom and democracy in Iraq, well perhaps that will happen but if we use people like Chalabi as a leader then it will end up just being charade. If a true democratic election was held today there a Islamic government would be elected and doubt we would allow that to happen if we could help it. Forgive my cynicism.

 

[JT]

One thing that struck me when I watched news coverage was all the Iraqis shooting guns into the air to celebrate. Hopefully no one got killed by falling bullets. Guess they don't realize there what goes up does come down, lol. :nono:

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

WMD's?? I could give a rats if they find them or never find them.

This is situation you had prior to Bush administration. Everyone in middle east against Western Culture basically considered to be corrupt and immoral (no wonder).
We had terrorist openly training in Afgan
Saddam was doing whatever he pleased which time will tell but if if you don't think he was doing everything in his power against U.S. you are naive.
--and if you are that naive I assume since he sent millions a year to Palestine to pay suicide bombers you would not think he would assist finacially any cause against U.S "SHEEEZ"
We have chance to have Bin Laden handed to us on silver platter and refused.
Terrorist were killing unabated in every country.
Opec dictated price of oil.

OK So 911 comes. Bush gets on tv and says the world has to take all out steps against terrorist and listed his agendas against the terrorists(axis of evils in his terms) I fail to see anywhere in that speech where he said "if they have WMD's"

Ok He's been in office 3 years went thru 911 and two wars and economy is out off recession. However I yhink interest rates had more to do with it,but I'll use a little counter spin of my own here since the left is adament Gore invented the internet.


We now have camp set up in the heart of terrorist country.They are coming to us on their turf. Huge strides on relations with Suadi's and Turkey who are now joining in fight.

Basically you have Iran and Syria only 2 remaining threats stuck dab in the middle of occupied Iraq,Afgan and Isreal.
Hello! Are you starting to get the picture. Not yet OK
Also have set up media coverage that sheds a little light on 2 sides instead of just one.
No more money coming from Iraq to pay off suicide bombers.
Bin Laden spending more time running than planning.
1st free election in Afgan currently in progress-1st free in Iraq pending
Opec leverage on oil gone.
Muslims waving US and Bristish flags-imagine that!!!!!!!!
Numerous nations have joined in fight. Here are just a few headlines from today--by the way you find most of these in liberal media. There from Asian Free Press

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/031208/1/3gi1e.html
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/031215/1/3go0t.html
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/031214/1/3gnp4.html
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/031208/1/3gi62.html

and North Korea issue. Only threat they are to U.S. is if they sell weapons to terrorist. They are NO threat on their own.
They are starving to death and have no leverage other than threats.--and China is getting tired suporting their ass and will be are biggest ally in this affair. I find it interesting with recent US-China-Tawain negotiations how each side is playing the other.

Sorry for being long winded but back to my initial question?
Who gives a rats ass about WMD's in Iraq.
----I do know they did have them and did use them!

Now my question
Is Afgan better off now than before,what about Iraq-do you think our postion against terrorist has got better or worse-Do you think terrorist position has got better or worse?

 

[djv]

I give a big rats about those WMD. If we dont find them does it mean there were none. Or did they get hauled away to other places to be used at later date on us. I Hope We Find Them. If not I would say our soldiers and us here at home could be in more danger then before. After all our main cause to go there was because of this threat to us. Saddam was second. They new Saddam could be handled at any time. If not they would not have waited for a 9/11 excuse. Pray we find them.