If you want criticism, I got criticism. If you want arrogance, I got arrogance.
I'll stand up and denounce the scriptures as false. Yes, I will assume that position.
*** you have every right to claim that arrogance and to denounce the Scriptures....i have a question though...why so much passion?***
------- because you are calling me arrogant. that is unacceptable.
Why do you believe the scriptures? Because you were taught. And pure blind faith! There can be no other logical reason!
***Assumptions.....i believe beacuse i believe there is too much evidence not too....evidence which requires a verdict one way or another....historical and scientific evidence***
------- i would believe as much as you if you presented me with one shred of evidence. Can you provide me something?
The Bible. It's a book. A book, for crying out loud. Why does it have more creedence than the Koran? Or any other religious symbol?
***it is also a book which claims to be the Word of God....take that for what you believe....you either have faith in that fact or you have faith against that fact...either way it takes an act of faith to believe what you may....so don't think that only people who believe are relying on "blind" faith***
------- it is "blind" faith when there is no evidence (pending, of course, that you can provide it). it is a book that claims to be the word of god. OK, now what authority gives that particular book creedence? again, I'm asking for any evidence.
Don't you find Greek mythology funny? Isn't it a gas that the Greeks believed in all those silly gods, like Eros and Neptune and Zeus? They are like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny to you, aren't they?
***these are pagan gods, and no they are not like the easter bunny and santa claus***
I bet you also think that the Muslims are silly for believing in Allah. And the Buddhists in Buddha. Man, they must crack you up. "How can they be so dumb", right?
***none of these crack me up and i dont consider it dumb to believe in them no do i consider it dumb to denounce Christianity***
But noooooo, wait a minute, if someone were to laugh at, or question your Bible's God, all of a sudden the Christians shout: "Sacreligious! How dare you! You shall be struck down!"
***"shall be struck down?" i dont see it or get that point of view anywhere***
------- no, my point was that non-believers get that treatment, essentially, from stout believers, and Catholics, and other faiths. i'm not saying you question me in that way, but there sure as heck are too many believers that think non-believers are scourge.
I want to know... honestly... why is your God any different than anyone else's God? Why is your God the "correct" God?
***in the interest of time and space, i cant get into much depth***
------- i'd be willing to listen.
And what makes you think there is a God, anyway?
***what makes you think there isn't one?"***
------- once again, where's the evidence for it (physical, proven, or otherwise, outside of just faith)?
If you say it is because the scriptures say it is so, why do you believe a book written by who knows who, written who knows when, and written in such goofy code ("oh, well, it is not to be taken literally")?
**i take it literally, and believe the evidence to do so demands this***
------- evidence.
Listen, I was brought up Catholic. A passive believer for many years, I never stopped to question. But I wonder what would happened if you asked yourself the hard questions and were truthful with yourself.
**again another assumption
------- what assumption? I said "I wonder what would happen if"... where's the assumption there?
Why don't we believe in unicorns? Little green men on Mars? Cupid? Santa Claus? These are stories handed down through the generations... with no proof, no evidence, and no basis in nature. So we tell them as stories, and laugh, and enjoy.
But you believe in the Bible's God without question.
**again another assumption**
------- well, christians and catholics believe in the bible's god, and I assumed you were one of them.
Looking back now, I find it odd, that's all. And I will not take issue with your choice. This is simply my position, and it is a minority opinion.
***looks to me that you have a big issue with people's choices...you state that very clearly elswhere....(see below)
------- like i said, if someone calls me arrogant, i take offense. i said elsewhere that if it works for you, then fine. but it doesn't hurt to challenge yourself and your faith. if there was a god, i'm sure he wouldn't mind.
But when that believing in God affects policies, affects relationships, and countless other things that affect what I can and cannot do, then I have a problem with it.
***then it follows that you should have a problem when not believing in God affects relationships, and countless other things that affect what you can and cannot do****[/B][/QUOTE]
------- in what logic class does that come from?
