Kobe shoots .337 in four losses

[pt1gard]

enuff said as to more valuable player vs Shaq

congrats to all Deet backers, who outcoached, outhustled outplayed LA five games ... The refs had absolutely nothing to do with series ...

Bombs, Mr Christo, Mav, onaj, Hoops, TO1, Raymond, and all the other Deet backers and believers, congrats!


gl, gregg

 

[Scott4USC]

Pt1gard :nono:

Pistons singled covered Shaq and focused entire defense on Kobe. Kobe had 6.9 player Prince with super long arms guarding him. No way anybody gets outside shot over him without altering it. Kobe easily can drive past Prince but then Pistons would slide 1 or even 2 defenders right at Kobe. So now Kobe has 2-3 guys surrounding him depending how deep he is in the paint. Laker role players had open shots all series long and would not make them. No excuses. Let me say that again. Pistons defense focused on Kobe, NOT Shaq. That is why Brown is such a great coach.

Lakers cannot get ball to Shaq all the time because he is lazy. Despite only having 1 man guarding him, Shaq would not move around to get open or let pass in. Wallace stands in front of Shaq and Shaq would stand right behind him. Gonna be pretty difficult throwing lob pass over freak Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace nearby.

Kobe has to shoot otherwise Lakers lose. Kobe's shots did not go in. You can only watch your role players miss so many open shots before you stop going to them. Tip your hat off to Pistons and thier defensive strategy. Brilliant move by Brown.

Let me say that again. PISTONS defended Shaq with 1 man with no help. Pistons covered Shaq with an undersized player all series long. Pistons defense was geared to stop Kobe not Shaq.


Oh yeah, how about Pistons getting away with fouls on Kobe all series long (except maybe tonight). Don't blame Pistons for doing it, as I would too if I could get away with it. Kobe was getting held all series long. Prince only 4 fouls in 4 games guarding Kobe?

Is this legal????

I thought PRINCE should have won MVP of the Finals if he is able to guard Kobe and possibly never send him to the free throw line in a 2 game stretch in Detroit.

Prince's numbers are better than Artest and Bruce Bowen and Pippen could have ever ever ever achieved... Seems like a very interesting story to me... But I am sure that Prince is superior to all of the players I mentioned above.

Kobe's free throws throughout the playoffs:

1st Round (5 games):
40-44

Semifinals (6 games):
30-41

Conference Finals (6 games):
42-56

Finals (4 games so far):
13-14
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Kobe has taken 92 shots in this FOUR GAME series and only 14 free throws
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Chauncey Billups has taken 52 shots in this FOUR GAME series and 34 free throws
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Kobe's stats for the 2 regular season games against Detroit 25 shots and 15 free throws.
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In the last 3 games Tayshaun Prince has played 132 minutes guarding Kobe and only has 4 total fouls (and I have watched him cry about every single one of them to the referees)
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Looking at those above stats can you tell me if anything would be different?

Sorry but you made a stupid comment and I had to settle it straight and bury your post. No hard feelings.

 

[pt1gard]

scott if U really understood ball

scott if U really understood ball

you wouldnt keep defending Kobe, hes not a team player and never has been nor prob will be--his body language in key moments is often terrible and he refuses to toss Shaq the ball ... I coach with an x-NBA player, whos in his 50s, super bright, he laffs at Kobe's selfishness ... You and I have had this discussion many times ... and to think they didnt help on shaq is foolish ....... You really dont know the game well enough to comment on strategy but Ill never convince you of that ... Kobe was a huge reason Detroit won series, they knew he wasnt team oriented and toyed with his limited basketball IQ ... 33% is an absolute joke, everyone knows it, and Kobe missd his share of wide open looks too--but when U gun like him, of course others cant get in flow, something else you will never understand--aint gonna win with 2 guys taking 1/2 your shots vs legit D; Ive tried to break that down to you for 2 years, but U cant comprehend that.

And your fouls theory proved nothing; you jam irrelevant stats down people's throat to prove what? Your lack of understanding how the game is actually won and lost is always exposed. The refs didnt call fouls on Kobe b/c he wasnt fouled.


gl, gregg


ps Im stupid scott :shrug: Ive coached very successfully for 4 more years that youve been alive--but your lack of respect shines through again

 

[maverick2112]

Gregg............thanks for your advice throughout this series. I for, one remember you saying well before the series was even set that if the Pistons were to face the Lakers in the finals then LA would have their hands full...I ended up hedging very little and letting it ride.......Great call

 

[pt1gard]

thanx Mav Im really happy for you buddy

thanx Mav Im really happy for you buddy

glad U didnt hedge much ... Like i said, I went to 1 sonic game this year and watched Deet from great seat ... they were a defensive machine ... I had taken Lakers mid seaosn or so +120 to win west then +140 to win it all ... after game 1 i took deet +250 and after game 3 I took deet again +250 to win in 5 and +160 to win by game six ... But Mav, U were the man, U had big ticket

to me yeah i made a lil $$ but, as purist I reveled in the Detroit ass whupping. Defense is the great equalizier and they mind-f*cked Kobe the whole series and since he cant play team ball it was good nite, Irene

take care
gregg

 

[gecko]

Gregg............thanks for your advice throughout this series. I for, one remember you saying well before the series was even set that if the Pistons were to face the Lakers in the finals then LA would have their hands full...I ended up hedging very little and letting it ride.......Great call

I also remember what he posted. Great insight. Stats do not tell everything, for sure. Agree that Kobe is a selfish player. He doesn't make his fellow players around him better. Thus the Lakers' laissez faire attitude caught up with them against the youthful, hustling and focused Pistons squad.

 

[tyro]

Gregg,

Thanks for your many entertaining and enlightening posts. I think you are right on about Kobe. Allthough they won't say it publicly, I'll bet Buss and Kupchak would love to see Kobe walk and be in a position to build a real team around Shaq.

 

[pt1gard]

thanx gecko and tyro and UR welcome

thanx gecko and tyro and UR welcome

I admit, Deet got my eye the night i watched them in February ...

After all these years around hoops, I guess I better have ability to discern potential greatness b/c I sure as heck ain't Bill Gates in other areas

gl,
gregg