Scott I don't think you have given the other side a chance to make their point so with the help of their diety, the ACLU, I will attempt to make their point for them. You have to give liberal logic a fair shake----
We believe that the word God should not be spoken in schools but firmly believe the word F-ck should be allowed on airways.
We believe the boyscouts should not be allowed on public grounds we think gays would make much better use of tax payers money.
We support ACLU protecting our free speech and agree with their backing of child porn site NAMBLA.Child molesters have rights too! If you don't like it--don't log on.
and Christmas--bah hum bug--If 5000 in town want nativity scene on public grounds there might be 10 of us that don't--and we decide--same as gay marriages--who cares about how "we the people' vote--its our right and if you don't believe us ask the activst judges.
After all we can interpret consitutution as well as the majority--and while on the constitutions there are some things we like and some we don't--on this right to bear arms issue. Are you people stupid. If you would just take note we banned use of handguns in DC. years ago--it would take the most liberal geographic area in U.S. to accomplish this feat--but we are not done--we have more liberal areas--San Fran is next.If you don't believe us read the news below---but as you read it please disegard the FACTS -- In 2002 "all homicides" not just handguns totaled 72 in San Fran on the year--while during same year they had 438 aids cases.
So don't believe those conservatives that tell you,per above, to back gay marriage and want to ban handguns is more liberal iberal logic and don't dare agree with them that after ban in D.C. homicides continued to increase is proof guns don't kill people--people kill people--nonsense--they continue to try to confuse people with facts--its a known ploy of theirs.
San Francisco Considers Handgun Ban
Saturday, January 01, 2005
SAN FRANCISCO ? The city that bucked state law and sanctioned gay marriage (search) is now taking aim at the constitutional right to bear arms (search) by proposing a ban in San Francisco on private ownership of all handguns.
"When you get guns out of people's homes and off the streets, it means that that gun is not going to be used in a shooting that kills someone, whether a murder or an accidental shooting," said Chris Daly, supervisor of San Francisco.
San Francisco officials are pushing a ballot measure to prohibit just about everyone who isn't a cop, security guard or member of the military from having a handgun in their home or office.
Supporters of gun rights, however, say the ban would deny basic rights.
"What it's really about, the end game is, taking away civilians' firearms and depriving them of the most effective tool that there is for self-defense," said Chuck Michel, spokesman for the California Rifle and Pistol Association (search).
Despite state laws that prevent local governments from banning handguns, the city believes doing just that will stem a wave of homicides that's left 87 people dead this year.
Washington, D.C., banned handguns in response to its skyrocketing homicide rate in 1976. But nearly three decades later, it had more murders per capita than any other city its size.
Opponents are already planning lawsuits, but argue that even if it does pass, this ban won't stop crime as law-abiding citizens give up their guns while the criminals flock to a city that ensures they won't be shot at by the people they're robbing.
"And what's going to happen if this passes is people in San Francisco are going to be deprived of their ability to defend themselves," Michel said.
"I don't feel like I need to own a gun to protect myself. Certainly, I am a high-profile elected official and now a lot of gun owners don't like me individually, but if I'm in a situation where I feel threatened, I'll call the police," Daly said.